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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2022 5:32 pm
Wide Receiver Kadarius Toney

Q: What were you thinking going into the game as far as your contribution and how much you would be playing, and obviously what happened during the game?

A: You go in wanting to do what you can for the team. That's what I did. At the end of the day, I was there when my number was called. Simple.

Q: Were you surprised that you didn't get more playing time?

A: At the end of the day, I did my job. I get paid to do one thing, do my job.

Q: How much was that the expectation going in there that was going to be the situation – that you were going to be going in and out in certain packages only?

A: I get paid to play, not coach. I don't know what the plan was. At the end of the day, I just prepared as if I was going in and playing every play. I don't know what else to say.

Q: What were conversations like after the game with the coaching staff?

A: It was more of just we've got another game. It's bigger than one game, we've got a 17-game season – that's always the mentality. (inaudible)

Q: Head Coach Brian Daboll said it today when he was talking about how others earned it on the practice field. How much do you feel like, 'Okay, I have to earn more playing time by being on the practice field by being healthy, by being available?' How much did you feel like that's the situation for you?

A: If that's what's required, that's what I've got to do. Everybody knows I had the injury a couple of weeks ago and that's why I wasn't on the field. I guess that's just with that, I don't know. I don't know what to say.

Q: Did you feel in your head you had any physical limitations because of that missed time? As far as playing 50-60 snaps?

A: No, not really. It's just all football.

Q: No, I'm saying you did miss time. Sometimes players have got to build up to that. Had you felt that you were built up enough that you could go as much as they needed you to go?

A: Yeah, I felt like I was straight. I was alright.

Q: To get more snaps this week, what did anyone tell you that you need to do?

A: Like I said, you prepare every week like you're playing. At the end of the day, you never know. Like he said, I had multiple formations that I was supposed to be in, and we didn't get around to them. There's nothing else that really needs to be explained.

Q: How close did you come to throwing that ball? That's the play, right? You certainly had an option there.

A: I was pretty close. At the time, the defenders got too close to me and I didn't have a good look that I wanted down field. I ended up making a better decision.

Q: You liked that play, right? You want to throw the ball?

A: I want to help as much as I can, yeah.

Q: How hard was it not to force that pass? You knew you were getting such limited plays there in the game and you want to make an impression on the game. How hard was it to not throw that?

A: You let the play come to you. You don't really go out there and force it.

Q: How do you stay ready so that if you're not getting your name called but then your first touch comes in the fourth quarter and you still make a bunch of guys miss and get 19 yards. How do you stay ready when you're not playing?

A: I wake up ready. (There is) never really a point to where I'm not ready. Whether I'm over here laughing or playing, doing whatever I do – at the end of the day it's always a locked-in mindset.

Q: Do you expect more snaps on Sunday? Is that something that you think will happen?

A: Like I said, I get paid to play not coach. I don't really know what's ahead for me Sunday. I've just got to go out there and be the best player I can be Sunday.

Q: What would you say your disappointment level was? Was it disappointment?

A: Disappointed in a victory? Disappointed in winning? You sound crazy.

Q: What was that like for you on the sideline? Watching that kick not go in.

A: It felt great, I'm not going to lie. It felt good because at the end of the day, you work hard every day. You grind for months just to win. In that moment, it felt like all the hard work kind of paid off, but you never stop going.

Q: Were you disappointed that you didn't play more?

A: If I played two plays, one play and we win – I don't really care nothing about getting no…it's okay. You want a dollar? You know what I'm saying.

Q: How much does a win help around here? You were here last year when there weren't a lot of wins.

A: A win just basically boosts your confidence. It just lets you know that the hard work that you are putting in is working. You can never just let up. It means a lot around here because we've come a long way from having hard times. This and that, adversity. This year, I just feel like we are overcoming our adversity, we are learning how to deal with it in different ways.

Q: You weren't out there that much but what did you sense when you were in there and just watching the way the offense was performing?

A: We had to just all come together, get on one page. It just felt like early on, we were trying to force the play or try to make stuff that wasn't there. Once we settled down and everything lined up, we just went out there and played.

Q: How have you seen the growth in the wide receiver group?

A: It's been a lot of growth as far as maturity or whatever. Especially (Wide Receiver) Wan'Dale (Robinson), just coming in and being able to grab so much and do what he is able to do. (Wide Receiver Sterling Shepard) Shep, (Wide Receiver Kenny Golladay) KG, (Wide Receiver Darius Slayton) Slay – everybody's trying to learn this offense that is new to everybody. Everybody is putting in enough work to be successful.

Q: How anxious are you to get out there considering you didn't really see (Running Back) Saquon (Barkley) run like that last year but he opens things up, it seems like it would be helpful for everyone in run patterns and things like that?

A: Facts. That there is basically just everybody playing as one. Everybody has to do their job for one person to do everything that they did. I just feel like everybody got their juice back. People returning from injuries and this and that. We are back on track how we are supposed to be.
Media asked him the same question 10 times  
Metnut : 9/14/2022 5:35 pm : link
Glad he handled it well.
Could they remind him  
HewlettGiant : 9/14/2022 5:37 pm : link
1 more time that he did not play much.

Did it take 10 questions.

I am not a fan of this player, but stop piling on.

The  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2022 5:42 pm : link
questions were the same 50,000 times. They wanted him to say the wrong thing. Catch him admitting he was upset at Daboll and he never did. Whether fans believe in him or not, he couldn't have handled this much better than he did.
Here  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2022 5:44 pm : link
he is when the FG was missed... sure looks like a guy who wants his team to win vs. sulking.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Here  
HewlettGiant : 9/14/2022 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15816925 DanMetroMan said:
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he is when the FG was missed... sure looks like a guy who wants his team to win vs. sulking. Link - ( New Window )


Thanks for that shot Dan
I was wondering if he really cared, that shot tells it
my new favorite press conference quote:  
speedywheels : 9/14/2022 5:50 pm : link
Q: What would you say your disappointment level was? Was it disappointment?

A: Disappointed in a victory? Disappointed in winning? You sound crazy.
Also  
speedywheels : 9/14/2022 5:52 pm : link
He's apparently going to give Antrel Rolle a run for his money on the use of "at the end of the day"
The Giants just shouldn't have made him available to the press today  
csb : 9/14/2022 5:52 pm : link
the Giants beats for the most part are absolute garbage; same question over and over. There is nothing positive that was going to come out of that interview when the entire crew is looking to have a "gotcha" moment after a nice win.

All that interview did was beat a dead horse. Move on.
Reminder  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2022 5:59 pm : link
1) The Giants won their first week 1 game in 5 years.

2)Saquon Barkley had a triumphant comeback from a terrible injury and led the team to a win.

3)Sterling Shepard had his own comeback from a major injury and played a huge role in the game

4) Brian Daboll won his coaching debut with a gutsy call and the game itself was a story of two totally different halves.

5) One of the Giants two first round picks played his first professional game.

All of these things are stories and content, and some of the media would rather try to agitate a player for a quote.
^  
winoguy : 9/14/2022 6:12 pm : link
Yup
As much crap KT has caught (whether valid or not)  
montanagiant : 9/14/2022 6:15 pm : link
This was handled about as professional as could be by him
The media trying to start shit with some of these  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/14/2022 6:17 pm : link
?s.
RE: The media trying to start shit with some of these  
Capt. Don : 9/14/2022 6:37 pm : link
In comment 15816955 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Asking about playing time was legit and is part of their job...but why ask the same question 8x?
As others  
ChrisRick : 9/14/2022 6:52 pm : link
Have stated; KT deserves credit for the way he has handled himself with the questions.
I will say this again, as I said in the Daboll transcript  
jvm52106 : 9/14/2022 6:57 pm : link
thread, I think Daboll sent a message last week and is back to buidling Toney up. he said Toney's name too many times in a positive way about how he was engaged when not on the field. That to me was the love love after teh week 1 tough love.

I am banking on Toney this week to have a New orleans/dallas 2021 game performance this Sunday.
RE: I will say this again, as I said in the Daboll transcript  
dslayton86 : 9/14/2022 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15816979 jvm52106 said:
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thread, I think Daboll sent a message last week and is back to buidling Toney up. he said Toney's name too many times in a positive way about how he was engaged when not on the field. That to me was the love love after teh week 1 tough love.

I am banking on Toney this week to have a New orleans/dallas 2021 game performance this Sunday.


Me too. My gut feeling as well.
Play him or suspend him  
averagejoe : 9/14/2022 7:14 pm : link
enough of this in between nonsense . Obviously he loafs during practice and both Judge and Daboll sat him . What else could it be ? He is a major talent we surely need playing .
Sitting on a fence and hoping he will fly right is not working.

Want tough love ? If he is it dogging it at practice suspend him without pay.

If they don't do that - LET HIM PLAY .
RE: Media asked him the same question 10 times  
Brick72 : 9/14/2022 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15816916 Metnut said:
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Glad he handled it well.

Q: What would you say your disappointment level was? Was it disappointment?
A: Disappointed in a victory? Disappointed in winning? You sound crazy.

One of the best responses I've ever heard! Not too many players would be that blunt to the media but you have to admit, that was perfect!
RE: I will say this again, as I said in the Daboll transcript  
KeoweeFan : 9/14/2022 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15816979 jvm52106 said:
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thread, I think Daboll sent a message last week and is back to buidling Toney up. he said Toney's name too many times in a positive way about how he was engaged when not on the field. That to me was the love love after teh week 1 tough love.

I am banking on Toney this week to have a New orleans/dallas 2021 game performance this Sunday.

My hopes are much less extravagant; let's let him earn his stripes as a 2nd year #20 draft pick, even if it takes several games.
The beats suck so much.  
an_idol_mind : 9/14/2022 7:56 pm : link
It's clear he's not going to give them anything, but they keep shit stirring hoping to dredge something up.
RE: RE: Media asked him the same question 10 times  
monstercoo : 9/14/2022 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15817042 Brick72 said:
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In comment 15816916 Metnut said:


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Glad he handled it well.


Q: What would you say your disappointment level was? Was it disappointment?
A: Disappointed in a victory? Disappointed in winning? You sound crazy.

One of the best responses I've ever heard! Not too many players would be that blunt to the media but you have to admit, that was perfect!


I wish I could see Toney's facial expressions during these questions, that's the best part.


RE: Here  
jhibb : 9/14/2022 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15816925 DanMetroMan said:
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he is when the FG was missed... sure looks like a guy who wants his team to win vs. sulking. Link - ( New Window )


Awesome. I was almost scared to open that link, thinking your post might have been sarcastic. (side note: I sometimes feel like Sheldon Cooper reading this site and not knowing if people are being sarcastic lol). Thanks.

That answer was so great, and actually made me laugh out loud. You know that reporter figured he had his story in the bank before asking that question. I couldn't really blame any receiver who only got two touches for feeling at least a little disappointed. I'm sure if he expressed that in the slightest, the reporter had his quote for the "diva receiver" article he had 3/4 written already.

If anyone sees an actual article using this quote to show Toney in a good light, please share. I'm not expecting anything other than a tweet here and there, though.
Media sum  
Kevin in Annapolis : 9/14/2022 8:54 pm : link
Clowns
From the “inside word”’we are hearing - the kid is trouble  
gersh : 9/14/2022 9:21 pm : link
But he sounds like someone who wants to do what it takes to contribute and win

Pure speculation - the staff didn’t think he was dedicated enough (training, learning the playbook….so they sent a message)
Maybe Toney expects them to be a little easier on him. Daboll is making it clear that no one gets preferential treatment.

There may be some growing pains, but tough love is the best long term solution for both Toney and the team.

Again, pure speculation
It’s a long season  
armstead98 : 9/14/2022 9:23 pm : link
Daboll is bringing him along slowly and making him earn it.

I bet we’ll see plenty of KD this year and he’ll be great.
This guy is unique  
CT Charlie : 9/14/2022 10:06 pm : link
in so many ways. Beyond his on-field joystick elusiveness are his patience, discipline and spirit. I wish I could have seen him in high school – I'll bet everyone in the whole place loved him.
RE: From the “inside word”’we are hearing - the kid is trouble  
HewlettGiant : 9/14/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15817149 gersh said:
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But he sounds like someone who wants to do what it takes to contribute and win

Pure speculation - the staff didn’t think he was dedicated enough (training, learning the playbook….so they sent a message)
Maybe Toney expects them to be a little easier on him. Daboll is making it clear that no one gets preferential treatment.

There may be some growing pains, but tough love is the best long term solution for both Toney and the team.

Again, pure speculation


People that don't have the fire in their gut to be great usually don't become great.
Tremendous talent that will never achieve what they might.

Perhaps as a rapper, because I think that is where his dedication lies
Have you all lost your minds?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2022 10:46 pm : link
Toney is a first round pick who barely got any snaps or touches and this is the start of his second year. On a team that is basically scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anybody to get open and throw to at WR.

And he responds that he thinks he's doing his job.

And you all take the bait and think Daboll is bringing him along slowly, he is a team player and the problem is really the big bad media?

good lord...



RE: Have you all lost your minds?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2022 10:55 pm : link
In comment 15817266 Jimmy Googs said:
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Toney is a first round pick who barely got any snaps or touches and this is the start of his second year. On a team that is basically scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anybody to get open and throw to at WR.

And he responds that he thinks he's doing his job.

And you all take the bait and think Daboll is bringing him along slowly, he is a team player and the problem is really the big bad media?

good lord...




Is there something to demonstrate that he isn't doing his job, isn't a team player? Something that isn't assumption?
RE: RE: Have you all lost your minds?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15817273 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15817266 Jimmy Googs said:


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Toney is a first round pick who barely got any snaps or touches and this is the start of his second year. On a team that is basically scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anybody to get open and throw to at WR.

And he responds that he thinks he's doing his job.

And you all take the bait and think Daboll is bringing him along slowly, he is a team player and the problem is really the big bad media?

good lord...






Is there something to demonstrate that he isn't doing his job, isn't a team player? Something that isn't assumption?


You mean other than barely playing while Daniel Jones throws to scrubs and undrafted free agents that Daboll puts on the field instead?
...  
christian : 9/14/2022 11:06 pm : link
I think KT probably has a lot of work to put in -- but that press conference makes me like him more. I bet Daboll got a kick out of the "you sound crazy" line.
Week 1 snap counts at WR  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2022 11:06 pm : link
Golladay 46
Shepard 43
R James 42
D Sills 27
W Robinson 9
K Toney 7

He got 7 more than you and I...
RE: RE: From the “inside word”’we are hearing - the kid is trouble  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15817246 HewlettGiant said:
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In comment 15817149 gersh said:


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But he sounds like someone who wants to do what it takes to contribute and win

Pure speculation - the staff didn’t think he was dedicated enough (training, learning the playbook….so they sent a message)
Maybe Toney expects them to be a little easier on him. Daboll is making it clear that no one gets preferential treatment.

There may be some growing pains, but tough love is the best long term solution for both Toney and the team.

Again, pure speculation



People that don't have the fire in their gut to be great usually don't become great.
Tremendous talent that will never achieve what they might.

Perhaps as a rapper, because I think that is where his dedication lies


Guys who don't want to play football don't play like he does.

You don't run to contact, run through tackles, and play WR like a RB if you don't care. It is really difficult to tell me a player who runs like this doesn't care and isn't invested.





To think a player who displays effort like this isn't invested in what he's doing is pretty incredible. It's literally effort play. While I don't agree with Kenny Golladay criticism it's a LOT easier to pass his play off as not caring than it would be to suggest that Toney doesn't.

Whatever is behind him not being on the field, it needs to get figured out because the Giants are less dangerous on the field when he's not a threat to catch the ball.
RE: RE: RE: Have you all lost your minds?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15817274 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15817273 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 15817266 Jimmy Googs said:


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Toney is a first round pick who barely got any snaps or touches and this is the start of his second year. On a team that is basically scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anybody to get open and throw to at WR.

And he responds that he thinks he's doing his job.

And you all take the bait and think Daboll is bringing him along slowly, he is a team player and the problem is really the big bad media?

good lord...






Is there something to demonstrate that he isn't doing his job, isn't a team player? Something that isn't assumption?



You mean other than barely playing while Daniel Jones throws to scrubs and undrafted free agents that Daboll puts on the field instead?


Yeah, other than that. I want to know what if anything happened. Because what kind of bad teammate who doesn't care celebrates a win on the field with his teammates in a big, game deciding moment and, despite playing just 7 snaps, doesn't complain even when he's being baited to give a quote?
TTH - not arguing that he shows effort when you look  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2022 11:18 pm : link
at those plays, but do the math. He's not playing and he's barely getting the ball despite his potential talent.

The coaches have a problem with him, and are limiting his play until he changes his "spots. Hopefully he will but this is now year 2 of the same crap.

What else do you think there is here, really?
that was an annoying...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/14/2022 11:25 pm : link
...read.
The beats embarrassed themselves.

Great answers.
Ten Ton Hammer  
GiantGrit : 9/15/2022 12:30 am : link
I don’t think anyone said he’s a bad teammate, and you’re really answering your own questions here.

Why would a guy like him, who has flashed major talent, barely get snaps and fall out of favor with a brand new coaching staff? 2 staffs in a row.

Its not about what he’s showing on Sunday, its during the week. They aren’t seeing enough and they aren’t the first. Daboll is very player friendly and has extended multiple olive branches.

It’s obvious the Giants want him to come around, its on him.
Get used to not knowing  
David B. : 9/15/2022 8:19 am : link
Cause you're not gonna know.

In this case, the simplest explanation -- Daboll's -- that you have to earn it, MAY in fact be the truth. But we won't know why Toney "didn't earn it."

I agree it's silly to stand on ceremony rather than game-planning more snaps for your most dynamic playmaker in the passing game.

Clearly Daboll is trying to establish culture. Most coaches see that as more important than any one guy. Just like Coughlin established his culture with his wonky rules and fines. I seem to recall he sat guys for half a game for being late or whatever minor infraction it was.

Toney is clearly an odd duck, but by most accounts, he's not some locker-room cancer or malcontent. I think once he and Daboll reach an equilibrium where they're on the same page, you'll see him out there more.

If not, the heat will increase on both of them. You're seeing this level of heat after a WIN. Imagine if they had lost and Toney only played 7 snaps.

Losses ARE coming. If Toney's healthy (a big IF) and isn't playing much during losses, Daboll's gonna get a lot of heat. The HC's honeymoon phase shortens real quick if losses start piling up. Especially in NY, and especially if you're not using one of your biggest weapons.

If he doesn't know the whole playbook  
kelly : 9/15/2022 8:25 am : link
He can only be in on specific plays and if those plays are not called he doesn't play. Simple as that.

He should however be our punt returner. He would excel at that.
RE: If he doesn't know the whole playbook  
NYGgolfer : 9/15/2022 8:29 am : link
In comment 15817357 kelly said:
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He can only be in on specific plays and if those plays are not called he doesn't play. Simple as that.

He should however be our punt returner. He would excel at that.


Didn't Toney have to fly into NY to get his playbook because his surgery prevented him from attending the first set of meetings/practices? Something like that.

Toney might have had even less snaps had Robinson not gone down with injury vs. Titans. He was essentially benched.
some nice quotes  
Dr. D : 9/15/2022 9:14 am : link
"You sound crazy... You want a dollar?"

Don't know what the offer means; maybe talking about clicks? Whatever it was, I chuckled.
RE: Get used to not knowing  
Daniel in MI : 9/15/2022 9:35 am : link
In comment 15817349 David B. said:
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Cause you're not gonna know.

In this case, the simplest explanation -- Daboll's -- that you have to earn it, MAY in fact be the truth. But we won't know why Toney "didn't earn it."

I agree it's silly to stand on ceremony rather than game-planning more snaps for your most dynamic playmaker in the passing game.

Clearly Daboll is trying to establish culture. Most coaches see that as more important than any one guy. Just like Coughlin established his culture with his wonky rules and fines. I seem to recall he sat guys for half a game for being late or whatever minor infraction it was.

Toney is clearly an odd duck, but by most accounts, he's not some locker-room cancer or malcontent. I think once he and Daboll reach an equilibrium where they're on the same page, you'll see him out there more.

If not, the heat will increase on both of them. You're seeing this level of heat after a WIN. Imagine if they had lost and Toney only played 7 snaps.

Losses ARE coming. If Toney's healthy (a big IF) and isn't playing much during losses, Daboll's gonna get a lot of heat. The HC's honeymoon phase shortens real quick if losses start piling up. Especially in NY, and especially if you're not using one of your biggest weapons.


Good post. Banks and Papa pointed out that so far, Dabes has been a man of his word. He’s backed up his talk with action. They suspect just what you said, they’re bringing KT along slowly and he’ll have to be on the practice field to earn it. Likewise, guys who practiced got PT. Some more than we thought. But Dabes said if you earn it they’re gonna get you in.
Hopefully Daboll's message got through  
Ron Johnson : 9/15/2022 10:18 am : link
He has a good week of practice, and gets 40 snaps v carolina.

All of a sudden the checkdown becomes a weapon.
Not a Toney fan yet  
Thegratefulhead : 9/15/2022 10:25 am : link
But that was fucking bullshit
it would be funny to know  
Enzo : 9/15/2022 10:31 am : link
which writers were asking each question.
I don't like the media and I don't like to rush to judgements  
Dinger : 9/15/2022 4:28 pm : link
The repetitive questions were beyond annoying and useless. The kid is making a lot of money so i dont feel bad that he has to face these mindless reporters. He hasn't done a thing except maybe be an overdrafted 1st rounder. We rave about the few plays he's been in and how he's a joystick type player. Yet when I read the tweet Eric posted about him stepping back and letting other receivers take his reps I have to pause on giving him the benefit of the doubt. Because even if he really is injured, the optics are terrible. Go get treatment. Go ride the stationary bike. It seems like he doesn't want to put in the work required to get on the field during a game. Honestly they should give him some playing time let him show his immense talent then trade him for a 1st cause the headache is only gonna get worse.
He must have tweaked his hamstring  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2022 5:12 pm : link
answering one of these rough questions yesterday...
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