And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
Was happy to see them make the list (despite it being heavier on the Romano than I like). But you have to search for these places, rather than just picking a random spot on the corner.
I have tried basically all of the top 7 besides OPS
there are so many good pizza places in NYC these days that the market is flooded with great choices.
There is a place Brooklyn DOP that opened a few months ago in my neighborhood of Park Slope that is really good as well as Lucali’s opened up a slice joint Baby Luc’s that is pretty good (even if the people who run the place could be the most obnoxious people in the world).
And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
Doesn’t having to go to the Bronx to get some make my point.
Well.. I get your point... that's just a very good, old school, one. They're all around Manhattan and BK, the old school NY slice. I've lived all around NYC and I have never been more than 4 blocks from a very decent slice. But is it as good as when I was growing up in the BX 45 years ago? No, it's not. That was the golden age. But you can still get a slice.
And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
There are tons of places to get an old NYC football pizza slice. Just off the top of my head “Scar’s” “Joe’s” Williamsburg Pizza and many, many more
Except some of those aren't old. Scarr designed his shop to look old. It feels odd to go to place that has brand new furniture designed to look like it's been sitting there for decades, particularly when actual old places still exist.
To be clear, I'm not knocking Scarr, the pizza is good and I've enjoyed chatting with him about pizza making...but milling his own organic flour to blend in isn't exactly what they were doing decades ago. And it is sad that older joints are closing as the younger generation doesn't want to take them over, and the profit margin isn't there.
And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
There are tons of places to get an old NYC football pizza slice. Just off the top of my head “Scar’s” “Joe’s” Williamsburg Pizza and many, many more
Except some of those aren't old. Scarr designed his shop to look old. It feels odd to go to place that has brand new furniture designed to look like it's been sitting there for decades, particularly when actual old places still exist.
To be clear, I'm not knocking Scarr, the pizza is good and I've enjoyed chatting with him about pizza making...but milling his own organic flour to blend in isn't exactly what they were doing decades ago. And it is sad that older joints are closing as the younger generation doesn't want to take them over, and the profit margin isn't there.
I get it, but there are still great slice shops around locally that have been around for decades. In Brooklyn Heights you have My Little Pizzeria, Park Slope has Luigis. My point is not that these are as “gourmet” as the places with the great ingredients and the “new pizza chefs,” but they do represent an old school NYC slice. I moved to Manhattan in 1998 and, at that time, the Pizza generally stunk. In other words, there were many more bad pizza places than good ones and they more represented the “dollar slice” joints you see now. You had to go find good pizza, but now it’s everywhere which is great.
The old man died. I don't know if the level of excellence is the same. To that end, I have had it, when Dom was still alive, and it was amazing. But, I did not find it to be the life changing event that many make it out to be. Start to finish, we waited nearly 3 hours for a very expensive plain pie. It was great and maybe the best pie we've ever had, but not worth the price or wait.
Lucali's is deserving of this list. We love that place, but also a hassle to get s table. It's offshoot for slices, Baby Luc's, is not as good.
L&B is iconic in Brooklyn and more reminiscent of "old" Brooklyn. So, for nostalgia purposes it is worth a visit. The pizza is good, but nowhere near best in NYC.
The old man died. I don't know if the level of excellence is the same. To that end, I have had it, when Dom was still alive, and it was amazing. But, I did not find it to be the life changing event that many make it out to be. Start to finish, we waited nearly 3 hours for a very expensive plain pie. It was great and maybe the best pie we've ever had, but not worth the price or wait.
Lucali's is deserving of this list. We love that place, but also a hassle to get s table. It's offshoot for slices, Baby Luc's, is not as good.
L&B is iconic in Brooklyn and more reminiscent of "old" Brooklyn. So, for nostalgia purposes it is worth a visit. The pizza is good, but nowhere near best in NYC.
I think his kids run it and the last time I went there was before he died, but he wasn’t there that day and it was still great. With Covid, they actually have a humane ordering system. You call ahead of time and they tell you when it will be ready (it will be like an hour or so) but it will be ready at the allotted time
at the ones with pictures I think I'd like Lucali or Totonnos, Louie and Ernies too.
but man you have to cook your pizzas. a little char on the crust holds it all together nicely and provides a nice flavor.
people are so afraid to cook a pizza.
the ones like Paulie Gee's remind me of NYC pizza, that floppy, doughy, pizza. It tastes good, but it would be better if it was cooked longer.
There was a place that was in my town in MA (horrible pizza in MA for the most part) where I said this pizza would be awesome, like legitimately good, if they cooked it more, so I went to pick up my order and I asked the guy, do you mind putting this back in for a few min, I want the crust a little charred. He looked annoyed but said ok. He had it in the oven for 30 seconds and goes to take it out. I said woah, give it a few min, and he refused because he said it would burn. The place is out of business now, but could have been great if they didn't have that fear.
A nice pepperoni pie with all the greasy goodness!
Musicaro's in Massapequa is great. It got bought and the name changed to something else, but last time I was there it was same as ever. Granted, that was 4 or 5 years ago.
For NY-style, I still love V&T, across from St. John the Divine.
There's a forum dedicated to pizzamaking (and eating and analyzing) that delves deep into various topics. Link below to discussion about pizzerias in Queens, who NYC pizza evolved over time etc.
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
Was happy to see them make the list (despite it being heavier on the Romano than I like). But you have to search for these places, rather than just picking a random spot on the corner.
There is a place Brooklyn DOP that opened a few months ago in my neighborhood of Park Slope that is really good as well as Lucali’s opened up a slice joint Baby Luc’s that is pretty good (even if the people who run the place could be the most obnoxious people in the world).
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
There are tons of places to get an old NYC football pizza slice. Just off the top of my head “Scar’s” “Joe’s” Williamsburg Pizza and many, many more
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
Doesn’t having to go to the Bronx to get some make my point.
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Is it though? Go to Louie and Ernie's in the Bronx.
Doesn’t having to go to the Bronx to get some make my point.
Well.. I get your point... that's just a very good, old school, one. They're all around Manhattan and BK, the old school NY slice. I've lived all around NYC and I have never been more than 4 blocks from a very decent slice. But is it as good as when I was growing up in the BX 45 years ago? No, it's not. That was the golden age. But you can still get a slice.
NY/NJ/Conn pizza tops anything available to me here in Georgia.
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
There are tons of places to get an old NYC football pizza slice. Just off the top of my head “Scar’s” “Joe’s” Williamsburg Pizza and many, many more
Except some of those aren't old. Scarr designed his shop to look old. It feels odd to go to place that has brand new furniture designed to look like it's been sitting there for decades, particularly when actual old places still exist.
To be clear, I'm not knocking Scarr, the pizza is good and I've enjoyed chatting with him about pizza making...but milling his own organic flour to blend in isn't exactly what they were doing decades ago. And it is sad that older joints are closing as the younger generation doesn't want to take them over, and the profit margin isn't there.
They're the best.
Also, Joe's is so overrated.
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In comment 15816982 BillT said:
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And the new stuff is really good but it’s not NYC pizza. Out with the old……
Sad. Old school still exists though, particularly in the outer boroughs. My favorite is Lucia in Flushing (near Amore which is also great).
There are tons of places to get an old NYC football pizza slice. Just off the top of my head “Scar’s” “Joe’s” Williamsburg Pizza and many, many more
Except some of those aren't old. Scarr designed his shop to look old. It feels odd to go to place that has brand new furniture designed to look like it's been sitting there for decades, particularly when actual old places still exist.
To be clear, I'm not knocking Scarr, the pizza is good and I've enjoyed chatting with him about pizza making...but milling his own organic flour to blend in isn't exactly what they were doing decades ago. And it is sad that older joints are closing as the younger generation doesn't want to take them over, and the profit margin isn't there.
I get it, but there are still great slice shops around locally that have been around for decades. In Brooklyn Heights you have My Little Pizzeria, Park Slope has Luigis. My point is not that these are as “gourmet” as the places with the great ingredients and the “new pizza chefs,” but they do represent an old school NYC slice. I moved to Manhattan in 1998 and, at that time, the Pizza generally stunk. In other words, there were many more bad pizza places than good ones and they more represented the “dollar slice” joints you see now. You had to go find good pizza, but now it’s everywhere which is great.
Lucali's is deserving of this list. We love that place, but also a hassle to get s table. It's offshoot for slices, Baby Luc's, is not as good.
L&B is iconic in Brooklyn and more reminiscent of "old" Brooklyn. So, for nostalgia purposes it is worth a visit. The pizza is good, but nowhere near best in NYC.
Totonno's is definitely worth the trip to Coney Island for. And Joe's is great.
Lucali's is deserving of this list. We love that place, but also a hassle to get s table. It's offshoot for slices, Baby Luc's, is not as good.
L&B is iconic in Brooklyn and more reminiscent of "old" Brooklyn. So, for nostalgia purposes it is worth a visit. The pizza is good, but nowhere near best in NYC.
I think his kids run it and the last time I went there was before he died, but he wasn’t there that day and it was still great. With Covid, they actually have a humane ordering system. You call ahead of time and they tell you when it will be ready (it will be like an hour or so) but it will be ready at the allotted time
but man you have to cook your pizzas. a little char on the crust holds it all together nicely and provides a nice flavor.
people are so afraid to cook a pizza.
the ones like Paulie Gee's remind me of NYC pizza, that floppy, doughy, pizza. It tastes good, but it would be better if it was cooked longer.
There was a place that was in my town in MA (horrible pizza in MA for the most part) where I said this pizza would be awesome, like legitimately good, if they cooked it more, so I went to pick up my order and I asked the guy, do you mind putting this back in for a few min, I want the crust a little charred. He looked annoyed but said ok. He had it in the oven for 30 seconds and goes to take it out. I said woah, give it a few min, and he refused because he said it would burn. The place is out of business now, but could have been great if they didn't have that fear.
anyway, now I'm hungry.
There are some great older NY pizza places in Yonkers and Mount Vernon if you want to go north of the NYC border a mile or two.
Dunwoodie in Yonkers
Johnny's in Mount Vernon
Both have been around for decades. Johnny's since WW2.
Both excellent.
Musicaro's in Massapequa is great. It got bought and the name changed to something else, but last time I was there it was same as ever. Granted, that was 4 or 5 years ago.
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