Green Bay Fans Want Packers to Trade for WR Kadarius Toney

take him.

I'll take a late 6th rounder.

from LaGuardia to Milwaukee.

Coach class...

And Buh Bye

trigger

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and me too.

It'd be entertaining to see Rodgers & KT89 together on the Rogan podcast, Haha.

haven't signed Fuller, yet. Is he still injured?

Let’s just see how it plays out. If he stays on the field he is going to help us win.

In comment 15819492 M.S. said:

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take him. I'll take a late 6th rounder.

There's not liking a player and then there's this.

fans and Giants fans could make trades without involving the respective teams front offices football would be a lot more interesting.

but because they can't this one will go to die in the graveyard of not so great or well thought out ideas that somehow still found the light of day.

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Of beer and ten pounds of cheddar oughta do it

they could make it work and get Toney in line. For a good part of one season with a little bit of luck.

He goes there and plays 80% of the snaps immediately their offense improves. What would that say about the situation here?

Some outside fanbases feel it's Jones or coaching holding back Toney. Or injuries.

They don't have a clue.

Neither do any of us but we know he isn't blowing it up on the field right now because of his performance in practice and possibly attitude. Somehow Rodgers and Green Bay solve that.

You want to get rid of your second most effective offensive weapon after 1 rookie season?

most absurd thing I have ever heard.

In comment 15819556 jmalls23 said:

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You want to get rid of your second most effective offensive weapon after 1 rookie season? most absurd thing I have ever heard.

"Effective" only matters if you play.

but not for jackshit like some are suggesting.

If he had Aaron Rogers throwing him the ball.

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massively growing rap career

In comment 15819544 Spiciest Memelord said:

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they could make it work and get Toney in line. For a good part of one season with a little bit of luck.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm because Rodgers is a shit leader. His inability to be a leader is his achilles heal and the thing that Brady has over him in spades.

But I trust Daboll and Schoen to make the decision about Toney's role going forward.

In comment 15819576 Stan in LA said:

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Buddy Ryan? C'mon man.

In comment 15819571 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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In comment 15819544 Spiciest Memelord said: Quote: they could make it work and get Toney in line. For a good part of one season with a little bit of luck. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm because Rodgers is a shit leader. His inability to be a leader is his achilles heal and the thing that Brady has over him in spades.

Ask Adams, Jordy and Cobb if he’s a leader. If you are going to pull the Brady card that means every other QB is a bad leader, right?

insofar as players want to play for him and give a big effort.

I get that he’s hurt all of the time and there’s all kinds of unsubstantiated rumors about his heart/effort, but the amount of hate he gets in this board is nuts. Someone with his skill set, you gotta get the best out of him. The hatred here is wild I think. I wonder what it’d be like if he wasn’t also an aspiring rapper.

seems our WRs don't want to risk themselves for Jones.

a starting-caliber OG. Not for pick.

In comment 15819571 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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In comment 15819544 Spiciest Memelord said: Quote: they could make it work and get Toney in line. For a good part of one season with a little bit of luck. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm because Rodgers is a shit leader. His inability to be a leader is his achilles heal and the thing that Brady has over him in spades.

Ability and effectiveness is the most important leadership quality. Rah rah talking is the most unimportant part.

In comment 15819595 Spiciest Memelord said:

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In comment 15819571 LakeGeorgeGiant said: Quote: In comment 15819544 Spiciest Memelord said: Quote: they could make it work and get Toney in line. For a good part of one season with a little bit of luck. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm because Rodgers is a shit leader. His inability to be a leader is his achilles heal and the thing that Brady has over him in spades. Ability and effectiveness is the most important leadership quality. Rah rah talking is the most unimportant part.

I don't think bringing up Brady in this context is referring to "rah rah talking" but more to things like putting time in with his receivers in the offseason.

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seems our WRs don't want to risk themselves for Jones.

That’s ridiculous. So KG and Toney are purposely digging it because of Jones? Lol.

I wouldn’t. I d rather take a chance on him figuring it out, staying on the field, and becoming a consistent playmaker for the Giants

You don’t give up quickly on talent.

In comment 15819576 Stan in LA said:

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The same meme and coach and moment that saw Philly prematurely trade Cris Carter to the Vikings?

In comment 15819634 joeinpa said:

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I wouldn’t. I d rather take a chance on him figuring it out, staying on the field, and becoming a consistent playmaker for the Giants You don’t give up quickly on talent.

"I'm standing in front of a burning house and offering you fire insurance."

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Someone needs to post a gif of jazz getting tossed out of the banks home on the fresh prince because I don’t know how😝

the beginning that I didn't think this is going to end well for us.

But I'm not interested in trading him away for garbage.

To me, he's definitely shown some more maturity in dealing with the press.

So, I'll hang on to that and hope Daboll can get through to him.

... otherwise there's no reason to have a conversation.

In comment 15819665 Brown_Hornet said:

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... otherwise there's no reason to have a conversation.

I'd take a 2nd.

don't see us trading Toney, but thought we couldn't anyway because of the cap hit from doing so. These kinds of rumors are fairly common among fans, especially in the age of the internet, but are rarely correct.

You’re right that trading Jokah DGAF would cause a $3.6mm cap hit. Schoen would have to manage it though it’s not a huge number.

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... otherwise there's no reason to have a conversation.

You also won't have a covnersation with that ask since everybody will laugh and hang up.

were gonna need ammo if we want to trade up in the draft for a QB

with a bunch of Packer fans this weeks and not one of them mentioned Toney. Shit stirring article. The Packers do not need or want our dreck.

In comment 15819634 joeinpa said:

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I wouldn’t. I d rather take a chance on him figuring it out, staying on the field, and becoming a consistent playmaker for the Giants You don’t give up quickly on talent.

+1

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In comment 15819502 cosmicj said: Quote: . Someone needs to post a gif of jazz getting tossed out of the banks home on the fresh prince because I don’t know how😝

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In comment 15819665 Brown_Hornet said: Quote: ... otherwise there's no reason to have a conversation. I'd take a 2nd.

A 2nd would be very good compensation if indeed the Giants feel like many fans.

My point is that you don't start a conversation asking for what you want. If they're calling, the Giants have leverage.

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In comment 15819666 Producer said: Quote: In comment 15819665 Brown_Hornet said: Quote: ... otherwise there's no reason to have a conversation. I'd take a 2nd. A 2nd would be very good compensation if indeed the Giants feel like many fans. My point is that you don't start a conversation asking for what you want. If they're calling, the Giants have leverage.

Hey, I'm all for getting whatever we can. I think Toney has great talent but for whatever reason, whether injury or desire, there seems to be a problem here, sadly.

maybe the decade.

Never going to happen at that price...

For their first pick. Folks up think they can get him engaged then bet on it. Heck their 1st is close enough to a second. Especially if they get KD for no cost this season.
What say you GB?

In comment 15819710 Jimmy Googs said:

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maybe the decade. Never going to happen at that price...

X 100.

We'd be lucky at this point to get a third day pick.

Why would any trade partner reward us for a player who can't play?

No one suggested trading for Jordan Love

because he DOESN’T WANT TO PLAY! Football is only a means to finance his music career. Those rumors have been around since early on at Florida. We are starting to get enough evidence to see that Gettleman should have paid attention to them. Maybe he’s afraid of suffering an injury that would compromise his ability to do what he loves, which ain’t football. Make him someone else’s problem ASAP and move on.

K. Golladay as well?

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For their first pick. Folks up think they can get him engaged then bet on it. Heck their 1st is close enough to a second. Especially if they get KD for no cost this season. What say you GB?

So far this season that looks like a top 5 pick!

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In comment 15819492 M.S. said: Quote: take him. I'll take a late 6th rounder. There's not liking a player and then there's this.

Which is why he needs to go, and don't look back. It takes a special kind of talent to be despised by a fanbase that is DESPERATE, BEGGING for someone, anyone , not to step up and make plays, but just show basic competence and dependability. Add to that he has the talent and athletic ability to BE special, a playmaker, a difference maker, and NO ONE denies that. I bet 75% of the fan base would make a trade and half of them aren't even asking what's being offered. He needs to follow hiw passion, get serious about his rap career and move on from football, this clearly isn't for him. He clearly doesn't care for us either and about said as much more than once. Let him go do him. Be better for everyone.

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He goes there and plays 80% of the snaps immediately their offense improves. What would that say about the situation here?

We don't have Rodgers and aren't Green Bay? Who cares. No one with a brain cared when Shockey and Odell left and won super Bowls with other teams. Go with god. Peace. Buh-bye.

I like the guy. In two years if he is still here you would be wondering why you would want him to be traded. With this coach, he uses the entire roster. He may play a lot on Sunday.

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insofar as players want to play for him and give a big effort.

That's not leadership, that's people opting to be in a favorable situation.

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In comment 15819634 joeinpa said: Quote: I wouldn’t. I d rather take a chance on him figuring it out, staying on the field, and becoming a consistent playmaker for the Giants You don’t give up quickly on talent. +1

By Nov.1 I feel pretty confident they can make that assessment and would have no issue if they trade him. It's preferred..

Not sure it makes sense from the Packers'.

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Not sure it makes sense from the Packers'.

And only because we refuse to play him, not because I don't like the player. Me and Milton were battling over his cock last offseason.

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don't see us trading Toney, but thought we couldn't anyway because of the cap hit from doing so. These kinds of rumors are fairly common among fans, especially in the age of the internet, but are rarely correct.

Releasing him is basically impossible, but only because of his guaranteed salary; the acceleration of his signing bonus would count against the 2023 cap (except for what is already on the books for the 2022 cap). But a trade would push the guaranteed salary to the acquiring team, so it would represent a savings of $1.2M this year (1/18 of his salary has already been paid, so there's no relief for that) and the dead money resulting from Toney's signing bonus would count against the cap next year.

Toney can't be cut this year. He can be traded. And if you ultimately want to cut him badly enough this year, you may have to consider trading him for pennies just to get his contract assumed elsewhere.

The worst potential outcomes would be having to either attach draft capital to get rid of him via trade or have to make other cap maneuvers to get rid of him via release. That's a doomsday scenario that I don't see happening. But I do think the return for him in a trade could be a lot lower than some fans expect.

In comment 15819723 Dave on the UWS said:

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because he DOESN’T WANT TO PLAY! Football is only a means to finance his music career. Those rumors have been around since early on at Florida. We are starting to get enough evidence to see that Gettleman should have paid attention to them. Maybe he’s afraid of suffering an injury that would compromise his ability to do what he loves, which ain’t football. Make him someone else’s problem ASAP and move on.

That's the beauty of trading a player, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY WANT. You just trade them, and Viola! What he wants is instantly someone else's problem. Our problem is what do we do with the pick, not what does Joka want. He can play his pranks on his new team.

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In comment 15819670 AcidTest said: Quote: don't see us trading Toney, but thought we couldn't anyway because of the cap hit from doing so. These kinds of rumors are fairly common among fans, especially in the age of the internet, but are rarely correct. Releasing him is basically impossible, but only because of his guaranteed salary; the acceleration of his signing bonus would count against the 2023 cap (except for what is already on the books for the 2022 cap). But a trade would push the guaranteed salary to the acquiring team, so it would represent a savings of $1.2M this year (1/18 of his salary has already been paid, so there's no relief for that) and the dead money resulting from Toney's signing bonus would count against the cap next year. Toney can't be cut this year. He can be traded. And if you ultimately want to cut him badly enough this year, you may have to consider trading him for pennies just to get his contract assumed elsewhere. The worst potential outcomes would be having to either attach draft capital to get rid of him via trade or have to make other cap maneuvers to get rid of him via release. That's a doomsday scenario that I don't see happening. But I do think the return for him in a trade could be a lot lower than some fans expect.

Thanks. I agree we'd likely not get nearly as much as people here seem to think we would. As I said, any final judgment regarding Toney is extremely premature. Let's at least wait until the bye.

In comment 15819589 ilikethenygiants said:

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I get that he’s hurt all of the time and there’s all kinds of unsubstantiated rumors about his heart/effort, but the amount of hate he gets in this board is nuts. Someone with his skill set, you gotta get the best out of him. The hatred here is wild I think. I wonder what it’d be like if he wasn’t also an aspiring rapper.

Not close to hate. ROI on the pick has been abysmal. I don't care why. Play and produce, until then, discussing him is a waste of air.

I dont know the issues surrounding is PT last week. He clearly has skills that no other WR on the team possesses. Trading him makes this team worse now and for the next few seasons. Unless he becomes a really bad issue you keep him and use him. Its too early to give up on suck talent.

His skills with the ball in is hands are crazy good. Daboll cant praise him in the press and ten not play him. If hes active you use him. There are plenty of examples of jackass WRs that produce on the field. He produces on the field.

In comment 15819509 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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It'd be entertaining to see Rodgers & KT89 together on the Rogan podcast, Haha.

Probably anything but interesting. Pot. Pot. Pot. Aliens.

There has not been enough to just throw him away. He’s one year removed from being a first round pick. He’s shown flashes in his limited play. I’d ask for a first and accept a second. Anything else take a walk. You risk dealing with him for a few years and hope he wakes up. Unless you get that first or second.

loses it's mind and decides Toney is really a tremendous asset who is just misunderstood.

Get it done, Schoen!

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In comment 15819576 Stan in LA said: Quote: The same meme and coach and moment that saw Philly prematurely trade Cris Carter to the Vikings?

No, Carter had off the field issues with alcohol. Even Carter admitted that Buddy Ryan did him a favor in the long run.
He got his act together with the Vikes.
I am no Buddy Ryan fan, just to be clear, didn't like him.

The kid obviously has talent. Let's have some faith the Daboll & his offensive staff can get Toney to bring it out on a weekly basis! As someone said earlier,one good week & everyone will be singing his praises!