First down run to Barkley and a jet sweep to Toney were way too predictable. The Panthers are geared to stop both those plays and players. Should have used them as decoys. It looked like Jones had a huge amount of real estate to his right on that second down play if he had kept the ball.
But it felt like they got a little too cute there. Seems like the Giants don’t want to threaten over the top but maybe thats due to starting on a short field twice.
Carolina selling out on the run when under center, gotta work in PA.
Play calling is bad. And if you see the team unsure what the heck they are doing, the coaches need to step in and call a TO. Wasted opportunity to create distance on the score board.
Not capitalizing on a TD off those first two turnovers is how you lose games.
but he has an 81% comp pct.
Why are you dogging him? It's not one bit his fault that we have only 6 points. He's done his part why you are so intent on pushing your negative agenda about him is really odd
RE: RE: Just horrible play calling in the red zone..
play calling. Much too conservative, predictable, and horizontal. Too many first down runs to Barkley and screens and sweeps to Toney. That's exactly what the Panthers expect.
We need three or four downs to go 10 yards. That is hard to do in one drive let alone throughout the entire game. We're not even trying for a big play.
But it felt like they got a little too cute there. Seems like the Giants don’t want to threaten over the top but maybe thats due to starting on a short field twice.
Carolina selling out on the run when under center, gotta work in PA.
Yup agreed
I’ll say this - happy to see Jones protect the ball and not risk any fumbles or interceptions
Looked like a quick three step drop back to me and him expecting the ball out quick.
I’m not crazy about that type of play call down close to the goal. Too close of quarters for that imo.
RE: RE: RE: RE: This team just doesn’t score enough TD’s with Jones
Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
RE: A good team would be up 10-0, a great team would be up 14-0
Seriously? If so, then he knows what time it is. Tepper is prolly already getting sick of him. Rhule seems lie a carpet bagger, kinds like his idol Parcells.
Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
I’m not a huge DJ fan but he can’t win for losing. If he takes what they give him, he catches shit here. If he forces it and throws a pick, he sucks.
Agreed, looks like he did miss Shep in the RZ though. Weirdly, his rookie year under Shurmur he was excellent in the RZ and hasn’t been nearly as effective since.
Everything has gone our way and we're still only ahead by three points because the offense still moves in micrometers and we aren't generating much pressure.
Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
I’m not a huge DJ fan but he can’t win for losing. If he takes what they give him, he catches shit here. If he forces it and throws a pick, he sucks.
I am not a fan either. I think he has skills but lacks something between the ears. That said, people are not objective when they have an agenda.
We did not attempt to run the ball between the tackles enough in the first quarter. Too many gadget plays, WR screens, etc.
Panthers throw the ball down the field. We do not. We're not getting any pressure.
Missed tackle by Flott.
Our Pass Pro is not holding up long enough to get the ball downfield.
Eh. We're not even trying to throw a deep intermediate route. Too much running of Barkley or silly gadget plays and sweeps to Toney on first and second down is putting us in third and long. Jones is also still not seeing open receivers.
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
RE: Was late to the game jus saw Dabboll pissed at Jones again
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
that's the way I would play us dare jones to beat me deep
Baker has the stronger arm, but less accurate than jones
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
that's the way I would play us dare jones to beat me deep
This is going to be the defensive formula against us all year, unless we can add a better passing game.
of the pressure on the OL is coming up the middle, not around the end. Thomas and Neal are holding their own. The guards and center not so much. Remember that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Add in Jones's somewhat slow processing and it's a recipe for a lot of sacks and negative rushing yards.
Yup. So is Adoree. We’ve got some talent on defense
Problem is when Adoree gets hurt D is probably fucked unless AROB is a stud (big believe in him watching him at UCF regardless what happens in preseason)
How do I listen to the game? I am out of market in Delaware, I had been listening to Papa & Banks on my laptop but that stream seems to be gone, it switched over to around the league stuff from the studio. On the Giants app they are broadcasting the Yankees. WFT?!?
Any help appreciated. thanks in advance.
Problem is when Adoree gets hurt D is probably fucked unless AROB is a stud (big believe in him watching him at UCF regardless what happens in preseason)
Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Waiting for a miracle to see this offense move down the field smartly. It just don't happen. Everything looks hard, every little play looks so hard. Good QB's are confident, this guy looks like he is shitting his pants on every play.
to u derstand how lethargic the offense looks. They are not using Barkley effectively at all, they are behind the play clock like theyre on the road. Not getting off the ball. Disappointing showing reminiscent of the 1st half last week.
Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli would look like shit today too
Eli made his reads faster than Jones, this isn't close.
Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli would look like shit today too
Eli made his reads faster than Jones, this isn't close.
Eli led the NFL in INTs multiple times and was a statue
defense is going to get worn out. We really need some halftime adjustments on offense, but better players would also help. That will unfortunately have to wait until next year.
Refs must have had brunch at Satin Dolls this morning
about Jones helping the OL when a gap blitz is coming. Slide your protection. Either he doesn't see it, or has brain freeze. Its part of playing QB at this level.
RE: Jones looks like a chicken with his head cut off today
Maybe you should stop watching and posting until Jones is gone. You seem to be too emotionally involved. I suppose jones is responsible for that.
This is something that a good therapist can likely help with. Hopefully you can figure this out before you hurt yourself or others close to you….. or your TV
in this half! Let’s see what kind of adjustments hey can make....this will be interesting. I also thought Wink created pressure, where is it?!
Wink is only a man, not a good. It’s hard to create pass rush with both of your best rushers not playing
LOL.....we heard about exotic blitzes from Wink, but I’ve yet to see any and we don’t need our top Edge Rushers for exotic blitzes. He’s got to find pressure from others via blitz if PR not getting home with 4
in this half! Let’s see what kind of adjustments hey can make....this will be interesting. I also thought Wink created pressure, where is it?!
Wink is only a man, not a good. It’s hard to create pass rush with both of your best rushers not playing
LOL.....we heard about exotic blitzes from Wink, but I’ve yet to see any and we don’t need our top Edge Rushers for exotic blitzes. He’s got to find pressure from others via blitz if PR not getting home with 4
I’ve seen us run a couple exotic blitzes, and Baker beat them with quick hot routes. They clearly did their homework
Or any game without any type of vertical passing game.
Hard to tell w/o all 22 but my gut is these receivers aren’t creating any separation. Giants badly need an alpha WR who can win his matchup consistently.
and that’s the difference right now. It’s very marginal. Their D is playing very well and so I’m not sure how we combat that unless we go max protect. Start to get the short passing game going and then look for your shots
had two gift turnovers, including one on the opening kickoff, and are lucky to be tied.
The entire offense is pathetic. The OL can't block, Jones looks totally indecisive, and the play calling is too horizontal. The Panthers are dominating our OL with just four players most of the time. Something has to give.
Can't blame the defense. They're getting no help. Pass rush would be nice but we still have no KT or AO. Wink is doing the best he can with what little he has.
Has been shooting itself in the foot all half. Sills's penalty where Toney picked up 37 yards on a good play (probably the only real great play by Jones so far) was all for naught. Highly disappointed in the crappy garden plays too because they didn't feel the Panthers front.
Can the line read, adjust, and block their LB Luvu? He's shot the gap twice now and got big TFL.
I made a thread about it. Kafka and Daboll have no faith in DJ to push the ball downfield, so this offense has essentially become a WCO with a bunch of short-to-intermediate passes and lots of dinks and dunks when we're not running Saquon.
It's because of the personnel. We don't have a QB that our coaches trust and we don't have receivers or TEs that our coaches are comfortable with.
Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
I made a thread about it. Kafka and Daboll have no faith in DJ to push the ball downfield, so this offense has essentially become a WCO with a bunch of short-to-intermediate passes and lots of dinks and dunks when we're not running Saquon.
It's because of the personnel. We don't have a QB that our coaches trust and we don't have receivers or TEs that our coaches are comfortable with.
Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
I'm stating fact. Everyone knows you are the one with an agenda Producer. If you aren't shitting on Jones your thumbs are broken
I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
I'm stating fact. Everyone knows you are the one with an agenda Producer. If you aren't shitting on Jones your thumbs are broken
tripling down on your agenda, Mrs. Jones?.. Your boy can't move an NFL offense.
I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
Come the fuck on Bob. What are the fans supposed to do, stand & applaud we're in the game? Give props to the defense, but the offense deserves all the scorn its getting.
I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
I’m no Jones apologist… But are we going to pretend Eli wasn’t making throws like that 10+ years in?
I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
I’m no Jones apologist… But are we going to pretend Eli wasn’t making throws like that 10+ years in?
Eli did a good bit more to earn the right to make mistakes by year 10.
it was open right away, Jones was afraid to pull the trigger
Yup that’s how I saw it. Looked like his first read on the left wasn’t there, but he had time to find Toney. He just clams up and gets ready for the hit if he can’t get a throw out within 2 seconds
Come the fuck on Bob. What are the fans supposed to do, stand & applaud we're in the game? Give props to the defense, but the offense deserves all the scorn its getting.
Johnny Boy slipped Papa a $20 to say that. Bob, being the dick he is, gladly accepted.
Barkley should have held his block and he stinks at it and should be criticized but Toney was wide open and He could not have just gotten open after Jones moved up in pocket. Thus, both are at fault
most of you will be defending him when he has one decent drive. But a shitty QB, is still shitty, even when he has 2 nice throws or one nice drive.. remember that.
Come the fuck on Bob. What are the fans supposed to do, stand & applaud we're in the game? Give props to the defense, but the offense deserves all the scorn its getting.
Pretty sure they were doing Sills for running backwards and giving up the 3rd down conversion
isn't seeing the whole field. He's a one, maybe two, read QB. That has been his problem from the beginning. The fact that DG and the scouts couldn't see it is a damning indictment of their abilities, especially since they took him at #6. Remember that Sy said that Jones does not have a "quick mind."
I doubt Jones is benched today, but he might well be with a few more similar performances. It's unfair to the defense and frankly the rest of the team. Davis Webb would do better IMO.
isn't seeing the whole field. He's a one, maybe two, read QB. That has been his problem from the beginning. The fact that DG and the scouts couldn't see it is a damning indictment of their abilities, especially since they took him at #6. Remember that Sy said that Jones does not have a "quick mind."
I doubt Jones is benched today, but he might well be with a few more similar performances. It's unfair to the defense and frankly the rest of the team. Davis Webb would do better IMO.
I was no fan of the pick but that's not something many college QBs show, or show well. That's something you learn about a QB after they get into an NFL system. Though both Burrow and Pickett did show this ability in college.
is a rookie third round pick starting his first game. We all knew he'd be picked on. That was awful coverage, but the offense is the bigger problem, specifically Jones.
up to that point. DJ Moore is a tough matchup for him, but a good learning experience.
I think its fairly clear, that Tenn took us lightly last week, and thought they could just show up and win. Doesn't work that way in this league.
Carolina has played with more urgency and better energy than NY today. That's been obvious.
Jones has perhaps the worst field awareness of any NFL QB I've ever seen.
And again with the Eli comparisons. Yes, he made bonehead plays too, many QBs make bonehead plays. But they balance it out with exceptional plays. Jones balances it out with mainly check downs.
Jones is a backup, and we took him at 6, he's had the same problems and some people in the Giants have and probably are in denial about it.
Need DJ to come out here and drive the ball down field
this is still the same Giants team. You don't get that many chances and not take advantage. This team is bad. No Pass RUSH! Everyone else in the league has rushers, not the Giants! You will not win without it
Because the OL can't open holes if Carolina is trying to stop it (not good enough yet). So they likely think they need to pass a little to back Carolina off. Plus since they are selling out on the run so much there has to be open matchups
when things were going like crap (and people were playing like crap), says a lot. Jones still stinks, and they are "many" players short, but it speaks to the coaching and what they are trying to build.
When he's playing horrible, the detractors will groan. When he makes some good throws, the hopefuls will say he has proven everyone wrong. Zoom out and realize that this is who he is from game to game.
Poor desicison by Daboll, this was a winnable game.
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
The theme this year is accelerating young player development with lots of game time? May sacrifice wins this year, but will result in a stronger team next year
Poor desicison by Daboll, this was a winnable game.
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
The theme this year is accelerating young player development with lots of game time? May sacrifice wins this year, but will result in a stronger team next year
It’s going to be a few years, especially if we need a new QB which it is looking like an inevitability.
When he's playing horrible, the detractors will groan. When he makes some good throws, the hopefuls will say he has proven everyone wrong. Zoom out and realize that this is who he is from game to game.
The thing people need to realize is its all connected. Its not as easy as "its all Jones" or "its not Jones at all". The run game helps the pass game and visa versa. We need to get one going.
Meaning the physical test has them suspecting a tear in a ligament
That’s certainly what it didn’t look like. Looked like sprain knee
A sprained MCL is a tear, the degree is just the type, (partial or full and severity)
The on the field test had to have shown something in that regard
Had a minor-mid tear in HS on a goal line stand. Felt it pop but no pain b/c of adrenaline. Could barely walk for 2 days after. Trainer explained what you mentioned above, a sprain is a lower grade tear.
from Golladay or Slayton. Sills had two catches IIRC, one which he went backward and cost us a first down at the end of the half. A few catches from Shepard. Toney would have had a big gain but for the bad PI against Sills. But overall, very little from the WRs.
its not Kafka's fault. The coaches will see this on the All-22 it will be part of their evaluation of Jones this year. They can only come to one conclusion. Have to upgrade the position.
Was thinking the same thing. Field position has been bad for 3 straight drives. Needed to change that. Almost as important as putting points on the board there.
RE: Important drive there - took the lead and changed field position
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
Beavers' injury was a huge loss. I think he would have replaced Crowder by week 4, the latest. Perhaps to start the season.
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
Beavers' injury was a huge loss. I think he would have replaced Crowder by week 4, the latest. Perhaps to start the season.
Definitely would have loved to see what the run defense would be like without Crowder. He's a special teams guy only.
the defense has fought and played pretty darn well, especially considering who is missing.
The offense has been dreadful. The OL HAS to be the strength of this team and they have been poor-at best today.
And its a tie game with 10 minutes to go.
the defense has fought and played pretty darn well, especially considering who is missing.
The offense has been dreadful. The OL HAS to be the strength of this team and they have been poor-at best today.
And its a tie game with 10 minutes to go.
Can't expect the O-line to be our strength, when Thomas has played 30 games, Neal 1, and this is the 2nd game ever as a unit. They're doing OK in the 2nd half, all things considered.
was almost responsible for us not getting a FG, even with Gano. The problem though is still that we need 10-15 plays just to get into FG range. No big play capability.
has called a great game considering how many players are out, including KT, AO, AR, and now LEO. The rest of the players are playing great assignment football. Everybody on both sides of the ball and ST is playing hard. That is great coaching. Now finish the game.
LET’S GO GIANTS (clap, clap) (clap, clap, clap)
LET’S GO GIANTS (clap, clap) (clap, clap, clap)
LET’S GO GIANTS (clap, clap) (clap, clap, clap)
Probably should have thrown it in the end zone. Happy to just play it safe. Free points
On first down.
They were just waiting for Saquon in the line!
Yeah wasn’t a lot there but you gotta lower your pads and get 2-4.
First down run to Barkley and a jet sweep to Toney were way too predictable. The Panthers are geared to stop both those plays and players. Should have used them as decoys. It looked like Jones had a huge amount of real estate to his right on that second down play if he had kept the ball.
That stupid play killed that drive
Toney running will be a much better threat once they establish him in the actual passing game.
At least I have confidence Daboll will make offensive adjustments (unlike Judge)
Fumblenesto!!
If we score more than they do does it matter?
Sills his 3rd catch ever
WEAPONS baby!!
Ha ha, cue the idiotic posts. How was any of that Jones's fault?
but he has an 81% comp pct.
Agree.
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Ha ha, cue the idiotic posts. How was any of that Jones's fault?
nothing is Jones' fault.. He's Teflon Danny...
Does Jones play right tackle too?
Yeh well he had one shot on a 3rd and long goal and his RT got pantsed with no real red zone weapons.
Dudes making good decisions and is throwing at Drew Brees type clip.
There will be no pleasing some of you.
2nd and 3rd down play calls were fucking atrocious!!
Carolina selling out on the run when under center, gotta work in PA.
Play calling is bad. And if you see the team unsure what the heck they are doing, the coaches need to step in and call a TO. Wasted opportunity to create distance on the score board.
Don’t know if you’d call it abused. He just stopped moving his feet and Burns took advantage of him. His initial block was fine.
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but he has an 81% comp pct.
Why are you dogging him? It's not one bit his fault that we have only 6 points. He's done his part why you are so intent on pushing your negative agenda about him is really odd
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Playcalling? Neal got straight up beat on his block and Luvu was completely unblocked. You think that was a called play and not execution?
We're winning.
Anyone known he was going to yell at, I think it was about the receivers not knowing where to be
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Yeh well he had one shot on a 3rd and long goal and his RT got pantsed with no real red zone weapons.
Dudes making good decisions and is throwing at Drew Brees type clip.
There will be no pleasing some of you.
lol.. yea it was just like I was watching Drew Brees. lol
Nothing new
We need three or four downs to go 10 yards. That is hard to do in one drive let alone throughout the entire game. We're not even trying for a big play.
Two turnovers and we only have six points.
If you see the team is confused...why not a call a TO?
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Ha ha, cue the idiotic posts. How was any of that Jones's fault?
nothing is Jones' fault.. He's Teflon Danny...
You didn't answer his question, why?
We're winning.
Should be up by at least 10
Carolina selling out on the run when under center, gotta work in PA.
Yup agreed
I’ll say this - happy to see Jones protect the ball and not risk any fumbles or interceptions
Looked like a quick three step drop back to me and him expecting the ball out quick.
I’m not crazy about that type of play call down close to the goal. Too close of quarters for that imo.
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Ha ha, cue the idiotic posts. How was any of that Jones's fault?
nothing is Jones' fault.. He's Teflon Danny...
You didn't answer his question, why?
are you watching the game? it's all 2 to 4 yd passes..
Bingo
Open in end zone?
He misses open plays all the time.
It's tiresome.
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like Jones had someone over the middle and Shepard in the corner of the end zone on that third down play.
He misses open plays all the time.
It's tiresome.
It is. Jones can't be the starter here next year.
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Not capitalizing on a TD off those first two turnovers is how you lose games.
Ha ha, cue the idiotic posts. How was any of that Jones's fault?
nothing is Jones' fault.. He's Teflon Danny...
You didn't answer his question, why?
are you watching the game? it's all 2 to 4 yd passes..
"Throw the ball downfield even if there are no deep routes "
Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Yeah F him
Open in end zone?
Jones would have had to lead him to the rear pylon as Shep had two DBs bearing down on him underneath, but worth a shot
And get a 100 million dollar check too
That's the disadvantage of a short qb.
Already some loose Nebraska rumors popping up.
Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
Yes but the worst version of the Giants would have turned the ball over on at least one of those possessions.
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Thank God he wasn't hired here.
Already some loose Nebraska rumors popping up.
Seriously? If so, then he knows what time it is. Tepper is prolly already getting sick of him. Rhule seems lie a carpet bagger, kinds like his idol Parcells.
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Yeah F him
I have a few friends over and one is a Jags fan. Even he said who is this guy and why does he sound like he’s against the Giants?
Cowboy gonna Cowboy.
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Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
I’m not a huge DJ fan but he can’t win for losing. If he takes what they give him, he catches shit here. If he forces it and throws a pick, he sucks.
Easy throwing against air smh
Missed tackle by Flott.
Missed tackle by Flott.
Our Pass Pro is not holding up long enough to get the ball downfield.
But #12 saves the day by dropping easy first down
Everything has gone our way and we're still only ahead by three points because the offense still moves in micrometers and we aren't generating much pressure.
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Carolina was sitting back with two safeties until we got Inside of the 20. All of the routes were shorter due to what the defense was giving us.
I suppose we could have forced the ball downfield. It sounds like that is what some people here would want
Two reasons for not punching it in. Offensive line and play calling
Makes sense, they keep taking whats given to them underneath. If they’re gonna play 2 high then thats pretty much what you need to do whether we like it or not.
Have to generate a running game to pull the safeties up.
I’m not a huge DJ fan but he can’t win for losing. If he takes what they give him, he catches shit here. If he forces it and throws a pick, he sucks.
I am not a fan either. I think he has skills but lacks something between the ears. That said, people are not objective when they have an agenda.
We did not attempt to run the ball between the tackles enough in the first quarter. Too many gadget plays, WR screens, etc.
Flott and Belton are rookies playing their first game and are both playing well.
Two fumbles recovered.
DJ taking what the defense is giving us and not making mistakes.
Not a fan of the play calling but it’s miles ahead of what we’ve had the past 2 years.
We are leading.
BBI: We suck.
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Panthers throw the ball down the field. We do not. We're not getting any pressure.
Missed tackle by Flott.
Our Pass Pro is not holding up long enough to get the ball downfield.
Eh. We're not even trying to throw a deep intermediate route. Too much running of Barkley or silly gadget plays and sweeps to Toney on first and second down is putting us in third and long. Jones is also still not seeing open receivers.
watch other games, so do many other teams.
What the hell? They are saying it is a pick?
Wow a 50 yard penalty Giants should protest ask for explanation.
Unreal
3 possessions each 6-3.
On first down.
Going backwards on first down is no way to win a game.
Last play was supposed to be a screen to Breida.
+1
The funniest part is ge was CLEARLY trying to look for an angle to defend it.
Why the fuck do they let him do Giants games? Shits unprofessional
He was at a loss for words
Was a BS call
He definitely seems to know that he'll be totally unblocked as soon as he sees the guard pull.
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
he misses open receivers on 10 plays a game. His vision downfield is absolutely trash.
Totally.
Last play was supposed to be a screen to Breida.
Makes too much sense to do that. I know it's early but my goodness it's as if Kafka has no idea how to call plays for this group of players.
Hope things turn around soon or panthers continue to suck
No question. It's a combination of the two.
Time to fire the coach and OC game 2.
Jesus f'n christ don't you people EVER get tired?
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this is more like last year than last week.
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
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Looks terrible
Much worse than 1st half against Titans
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this is more like last year than last week.
Totally agree. The OL is being dominated. Ezeudu is really struggling from what I can see. Barkley is being hit in the backfield regularly, often by two players. The Panthers are really loading the box to stop him and also I assume because they have no respect for our WRs.
that's the way I would play us dare jones to beat me deep
This is going to be the defensive formula against us all year, unless we can add a better passing game.
Yup. So is Adoree. We’ve got some talent on defense
Looks terrible
Much worse than 1st half against Titans
Guys a4e coming unblocked, the safety LuVu seems to be consistently unblocked and causing problems right now.
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Yup. So is Adoree. We’ve got some talent on defense
Problem is when Adoree gets hurt D is probably fucked unless AROB is a stud (big believe in him watching him at UCF regardless what happens in preseason)
Any help appreciated. thanks in advance.
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He was at a loss for words
He can’t find the words when it comes to anything positive Giants.
Guy should at least try and be professional.
So much for responding
Yup this reminds me of Dupree eating up Thomas during his first career game
Offense needs to wake the F up soon
Destroyed in all phases of the game
Really bad day… and am somewhat unexpected.
O line looks like past 10 years of ineptitude
This has to be the greatest BBI name ever
Giants need to settle down a bit here as we are just too amped up, nothing smooth happening..
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He definitely seems to know that he'll be totally unblocked as soon as he sees the guard pull.
How about trying to stick to running more than one run play on a drive??
Hard for me to pin this on Jones when we have like zero rushing yards
Perhaps because his receivers are getting open faster?
Looks brain dead today -- slow and no vision.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
The OL is terrible.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli would look like shit today too
The OL is awful especially the guards and center. Carolina is getting pressure with just four DL most of the time.
Jones isn't processing fast enough.
We essentially have nothing at WR so Carolina isn't threatened by them at all.
The OL is awful especially the guards and center. Carolina is getting pressure with just four DL most of the time.
Jones isn't processing fast enough.
We essentially have nothing at WR so Carolina isn't threatened by them at all.
Then the one big play was wiped away by the moron refs
10-6 at half?
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a combination of problems.
The OL is awful especially the guards and center. Carolina is getting pressure with just four DL most of the time.
Jones isn't processing fast enough.
We essentially have nothing at WR so Carolina isn't threatened by them at all.
Then the one big play was wiped away by the moron refs
Agreed. But we obviously have to overcome that bad call. We haven't done anything on offense.
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Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli would look like shit today too
Eli made his reads faster than Jones, this isn't close.
It’s not that complicated. They don’t have the QB.
The OPI call was brutal.
Do you mean the 1:30 minute warning?
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Eli that I have come to respect more and more in hindsight when comparing to Jones as an absolute deficiency or liability was a true ability to read defense at the line and make adjustments or audibles.
Jones has to help his OL a bit on some of these where he can read the gap blitz coming. I’ve counted three times already today in first half.
Eli would look like shit today too
Eli made his reads faster than Jones, this isn't close.
Eli led the NFL in INTs multiple times and was a statue
They sounded very loud on the Panthers first 3rd down. At some point, the team needs to give fans a reason to stand up and scream
On the bench nursing a couple busted wheels
Wink is only a man, not a good. It’s hard to create pass rush with both of your best rushers not playing
I'm by no means a big Jones defender, but it seems to me that nobody is getting open on the few passes where there has been protection.
Maybe you should stop watching and posting until Jones is gone. You seem to be too emotionally involved. I suppose jones is responsible for that.
This is something that a good therapist can likely help with. Hopefully you can figure this out before you hurt yourself or others close to you….. or your TV
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He's had time on some of these plays and is all out of sorts.
I'm by no means a big Jones defender, but it seems to me that nobody is getting open on the few passes where there has been protection.
You can't see the WRs play on the TV angle. The beats have been spotting open WRs that Jones doesn't see since last week.
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in this half! Let’s see what kind of adjustments hey can make....this will be interesting. I also thought Wink created pressure, where is it?!
Wink is only a man, not a good. It’s hard to create pass rush with both of your best rushers not playing
LOL.....we heard about exotic blitzes from Wink, but I’ve yet to see any and we don’t need our top Edge Rushers for exotic blitzes. He’s got to find pressure from others via blitz if PR not getting home with 4
He and Jihad have acquitted themselves pretty well so far.
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in this half! Let’s see what kind of adjustments hey can make....this will be interesting. I also thought Wink created pressure, where is it?!
Wink is only a man, not a good. It’s hard to create pass rush with both of your best rushers not playing
LOL.....we heard about exotic blitzes from Wink, but I’ve yet to see any and we don’t need our top Edge Rushers for exotic blitzes. He’s got to find pressure from others via blitz if PR not getting home with 4
I’ve seen us run a couple exotic blitzes, and Baker beat them with quick hot routes. They clearly did their homework
Then Sills runs away from a first down SMH.
He's not the one making dumbass throws like that one
He passing out hot dogs.
Or our team is short a few players
Or a little of both?
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He's not the one making dumbass throws like that one
Mayfield is just as bad.
Papa is a hack. Always has been, always will be.
Maybe, but he's the best QB on the field.
Hard to tell w/o all 22 but my gut is these receivers aren’t creating any separation. Giants badly need an alpha WR who can win his matchup consistently.
Sure. he does. 1 second of ptotection
It's a confusing gameplan to be sure.
Sills- wtf are you thinking. We have 3 time outs..
Pretty pathetic first half offensively (luckily by the Panthers too).
It's a confusing gameplan to be sure.
Honestly, Tyrod Taylor may not be more efficient or even better than DJ, but he's certainly more of a Daboll/Kafka QB.
See you after the game
Recipe for an L.
he can't find them. I am confident they are open at times. His vision is terrible. His pocket presence is terrible.
The entire offense is pathetic. The OL can't block, Jones looks totally indecisive, and the play calling is too horizontal. The Panthers are dominating our OL with just four players most of the time. Something has to give.
Can't blame the defense. They're getting no help. Pass rush would be nice but we still have no KT or AO. Wink is doing the best he can with what little he has.
Can the line read, adjust, and block their LB Luvu? He's shot the gap twice now and got big TFL.
Good God.
It's a confusing gameplan to be sure.
Lack of run game is inexcusable. Run some counters, draws. Let the OL get their feet under them and dictate the LOS.
Baker plays so much faster.
It's because of the personnel. We don't have a QB that our coaches trust and we don't have receivers or TEs that our coaches are comfortable with.
Totally agree. They know what Jones is, a game manager. They've likely known that for months. But this offense is still very painful to watch.
No, this is a trash game.
It's because of the personnel. We don't have a QB that our coaches trust and we don't have receivers or TEs that our coaches are comfortable with.
Also agree.
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
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Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
I'm stating fact. Everyone knows you are the one with an agenda Producer. If you aren't shitting on Jones your thumbs are broken
I don't think so either.
It would help if they would put a hat on unblocked players on running plays.
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Jones had a big pass to a wide open receiver called back by a BS opi call. That's been about the only difference between him and Mayfield. Well...Mayfield actually has functional WRs and TEs
if you're defending Jones, you must have an agenda...
I'm stating fact. Everyone knows you are the one with an agenda Producer. If you aren't shitting on Jones your thumbs are broken
tripling down on your agenda, Mrs. Jones?.. Your boy can't move an NFL offense.
+1.
Yup, yup and yup.
QB in either Round 1 or Round 2 in April 2023.
Round 1. And I fully expect the 2024 first to be traded to do so.
I'll reserve to see how they adjust in the 2nd half. This game is still very much winnable
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
So what? He wasn’t there at #5 in the draft
I'll reserve to see how they adjust in the 2nd half. This game is still very much winnable
Relax. We are all talking in real time. None of us are robots here without emotion.
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I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
I’m no Jones apologist… But are we going to pretend Eli wasn’t making throws like that 10+ years in?
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tripling down on your agenda, Mrs. Jones?.. Your boy can't move an NFL offense.
You're funnier when you post as Debaser.
It’s the execution, not the playcalls.
I'll reserve to see how they adjust in the 2nd half. This game is still very much winnable
It's okay to only care about the result.
It is also okay to care about how the team looks for the 4 quarters before the result.
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Seems Daboll doesnt want to call plays so this is a year for Kafka to learn how to do it
It’s the execution, not the playcalls.
They aren’t blocking. What play calls will work instead?
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I want DJ to succeed. But it doesn't look like it is in the cards. That second to last throw should have been a pick 6. The dude can't be making those decisions & throws in his fourth season.
That’s where I stand. Always rooting for Jones, but simple fact is he can’t make plays that put pressure on the defense. Getting out of the half without any brutal turnovers from him feels like a win at this point (and he got very lucky that sideline throw wasn’t a pick 6).
And that kinda says all that needs to be said about him
I’m no Jones apologist… But are we going to pretend Eli wasn’t making throws like that 10+ years in?
Eli did a good bit more to earn the right to make mistakes by year 10.
yeah that was a lame ass block for a supposedly powerhouse of a man.
Then misses an easy throw
it was open right away, Jones was afraid to pull the trigger
Toney was open well before. Jones simply can’t handle the demands of the position.
Missing reads at the line and adjusting calls or reading through his options when in. coverage
There are plays to be made out there and they aren’t being made.
They are not giving Barkley the ball enough. Feels like Garrett is out here calling plays.
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If Barkley had sustained his block
it was open right away, Jones was afraid to pull the trigger
Yup that’s how I saw it. Looked like his first read on the left wasn’t there, but he had time to find Toney. He just clams up and gets ready for the hit if he can’t get a throw out within 2 seconds
Johnny Boy slipped Papa a $20 to say that. Bob, being the dick he is, gladly accepted.
Barkley should have held his block and he stinks at it and should be criticized but Toney was wide open and He could not have just gotten open after Jones moved up in pocket. Thus, both are at fault
Looks like a lost game to me
Dominated both sides LOS
Very surprising for team to lay such a rotten egg
Seems like a good guy. Hard worker. All that jazz.
He ain’t an NFL qb.
The world needs ditch diggers too.
The OL sucks today but no mention of that.
Yup, there’s a reason they gave Tyrod a 2 year deal.
Seems like a good guy. Hard worker. All that jazz.
He ain’t an NFL qb.
The world needs ditch diggers too.
He ain’t an NFL QB might be the dumbest tiki ever said on this site
Pretty sure they were doing Sills for running backwards and giving up the 3rd down conversion
Of course you would.
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Seems Daboll doesnt want to call plays so this is a year for Kafka to learn how to do it
It’s the execution, not the playcalls.
Second down play looked like a good call with Toney open across the middle, no?
I doubt Jones is benched today, but he might well be with a few more similar performances. It's unfair to the defense and frankly the rest of the team. Davis Webb would do better IMO.
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Seems Daboll doesnt want to call plays so this is a year for Kafka to learn how to do it
It’s the execution, not the playcalls.
Second down play looked like a good call with Toney open across the middle, no?
Sorry totally misread that. Definitely the execution sucked on that play not the call
All day long.
TD
13-6
This has always been his problem. He panics when anything goes off schedule. He doesn’t have the vision or intangibles to play QB at this level.
Looks like a lost game to me
Dominated both sides LOS
Very surprising for team to lay such a rotten egg
Not surprising at all. This is the type of game they've been playing for eons.
Surprised it took them this long to start picking on him
At least 10 people on this website could have done a better job of covering Moore on that play
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
I doubt Jones is benched today, but he might well be with a few more similar performances. It's unfair to the defense and frankly the rest of the team. Davis Webb would do better IMO.
I was no fan of the pick but that's not something many college QBs show, or show well. That's something you learn about a QB after they get into an NFL system. Though both Burrow and Pickett did show this ability in college.
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But come on… Jones needs to pull the trigger faster & see field better etc … same shit. Rinse & Repeat. He is too quick to tuck & run too.
Seems like a good guy. Hard worker. All that jazz.
He ain’t an NFL qb.
The world needs ditch diggers too.
He ain’t an NFL QB might be the dumbest tiki ever said on this site
Haha. That’s Doubtful.
Enjoy his stellar play.
Hope I’m wrong.
But this is a first rate beat down right now with everything going wrong
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
Seriously, that is your take away. How about a rush, how about some offense.. Flott was beaten but he isn't why we are losing this game.
I think its fairly clear, that Tenn took us lightly last week, and thought they could just show up and win. Doesn't work that way in this league.
Carolina has played with more urgency and better energy than NY today. That's been obvious.
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
Exactly who should be playing corner when we have 3 or 4 CBs on the field
Giants running out a skeleton crew out there at CB and pass rusher.
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Of course you would.
I’ve defended Jones more often than not. But he doesn’t have it today. Offense needs a spark.
This is the sad part about today. At home, we've gotten more than used to these types of performances.
Jones has perhaps the worst field awareness of any NFL QB I've ever seen.
And again with the Eli comparisons. Yes, he made bonehead plays too, many QBs make bonehead plays. But they balance it out with exceptional plays. Jones balances it out with mainly check downs.
Jones is a backup, and we took him at 6, he's had the same problems and some people in the Giants have and probably are in denial about it.
i said last year he is like a badly performing robot.
Honestly, I wouldn't hate it if they played Tyrod.
Embarssing.
Poor choice.
😆😆😆
Because they are getting zero push
All because of Golladay. THIS will be the turning point in his Giants career. :P
The blocking isn’t the issue
Rope a dope!
That was awesome!!!
That was fun!!!
Better you than me my man.
This to me is more like a bad day golfing. Rather that than what you said.
Kafka!
Please football gods, make it happen.
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This is so fucking boring. I'd rather listen to my woman's work stories.
Better you than me my man.
This to me is more like a bad day golfing. Rather that than what you said.
That run seemed to be a different design - I’m not knowledgeable enough to know what but that was the first time he had room
About time they spread them out and got him outside instead of up the middle where the OL is weakest.
Because the OL can't open holes if Carolina is trying to stop it (not good enough yet). So they likely think they need to pass a little to back Carolina off. Plus since they are selling out on the run so much there has to be open matchups
dude!!, and replace with who?!!
do you not pay attention we Aaron Robinson is hurt, you want Darnay Homes in there?
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Guys. I got the secret weapon. As soon as my mom showed up to my house with cups the Giants started moving the ball.
kerp her there. She can't leave
Got it covered
They think they can strip it from Chuba
Pointing to his knee
Pointing to his knee
Fuxk!
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
The theme this year is accelerating young player development with lots of game time? May sacrifice wins this year, but will result in a stronger team next year
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This is so fucking boring. I'd rather listen to my woman's work stories.
Better you than me my man.
This to me is more like a bad day golfing. Rather that than what you said.
I'm going out golfing after this love 10am games
One of the things I miss the most about living on the west coast is football starting at 10
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Poor desicison by Daboll, this was a winnable game.
Adoree should have shadowed him
poor poor, they shoul dhave started fabian.
The theme this year is accelerating young player development with lots of game time? May sacrifice wins this year, but will result in a stronger team next year
It’s going to be a few years, especially if we need a new QB which it is looking like an inevitability.
The thing people need to realize is its all connected. Its not as easy as "its all Jones" or "its not Jones at all". The run game helps the pass game and visa versa. We need to get one going.
Fuck.
@art_stapleton
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sounds serious with Leo.
Fuck.
Double fuck
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Of course.
Ugh
Rest of game
Yep another soft tissue injury on this turf… but it looks like someone rolled up on him
A lot of players walk off with ACLs.
That’s certainly what it didn’t look like. Looked like sprain knee
Let’s up pressure hit on Jones.
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Meaning the physical test has them suspecting a tear in a ligament
That’s certainly what it didn’t look like. Looked like sprain knee
Yea looks alot like thibs. I suspect a sprain
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Yep another soft tissue injury on this turf… but it looks like someone rolled up on him
Definitely looked like that.....didn’t look to bad, but MRI will show that tomorrow
Best player out with knee
Losing the LOS
Oh, boy
He’s having a subpar game in optimal conditions. Something to watch going forward.
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but the line's doing NOTHING for him.
i wish he had the time mayfield does
Jones sucks but the Ol is trash today
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Kadarius Toney is back on the Giants' sideline, but missed that entire series.
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Meaning the physical test has them suspecting a tear in a ligament
That’s certainly what it didn’t look like. Looked like sprain knee
A sprained MCL is a tear, the degree is just the type, (partial or full and severity)
The on the field test had to have shown something in that regard
I think they have tried getting this numerous times, Carolina is looking for it
team's not blocking for shit.
We are pretty good at sustaining injuries.
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Shocking. What a loser.
that when you leave Moreau on an island, bad things happen.
Acid, was not the case there. His man just beat him inside
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Meaning the physical test has them suspecting a tear in a ligament
That’s certainly what it didn’t look like. Looked like sprain knee
A sprained MCL is a tear, the degree is just the type, (partial or full and severity)
The on the field test had to have shown something in that regard
Had a minor-mid tear in HS on a goal line stand. Felt it pop but no pain b/c of adrenaline. Could barely walk for 2 days after. Trainer explained what you mentioned above, a sprain is a lower grade tear.
Yup agree 100% Now can the Giants take advantage? hmm
He’s struggling with Burns speed
Why run Barkley into the heart of the line when they can’t block sh*t?
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has Ezedeu and Bredeson next to him, who will at least occasionally make him look bad.
Acid, was not the case there. His man just beat him inside
Agreed.
Mayfield has had more time to throw, consistently, all game.
He's also more elusive, which helps.
Jones is a poor QB but these last drives post-TD haven't been his fault.
Rewind the play and watch In slow motion like I did. There was nowhere to throw the ball before he got hit…. Nowhere
Fuck yeah!
This might be his best game
I think he misses playing against Big 12 defenses…
No call for the Giants - what else is new
And his 3 yard average
Yeh..
Yeh….
So Jones is getting blamed for Defensive PI calls now?
Lol, this place is a joke.
He is very very good
I agree.
Supposedly Gettleman wanted him, but he was taken right before our pick so we settled for Sexy Dexy
But we’re up 16-13
Go Giants!!!
Definitely against a rookie tackle
Defnes eplaying great when you consider missing top 2 rushers
I think its been actually a really well called game.
Execution has been poor
Been saying it since last week.
Burns is a fantastic player. Not surprising he'd give even an OT as good as Thomas problems.
Giants haven’t run the ball enough regardless. But a FB in with Saquon, lineup and hit them in the mouth.
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Kafka is calling.
I think its been actually a really well called game.
Execution has been poor
Surprised they didn't run some RPOs early to set up the D for late in the game...
Was thinking the same thing. Field position has been bad for 3 straight drives. Needed to change that. Almost as important as putting points on the board there.
Ug. So much for the field position. Defense has to find their nuts here
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prepared for our running game today. They have run blitzed every time we pulled the guard, nailing Barkley in the backfield.
Giants haven’t run the ball enough regardless. But a FB in with Saquon, lineup and hit them in the mouth.
Good way to waste a down.
Gano - spellcheck strikes again.
Yes, as long as the holder doesn’t screw us! Had nightmares last game, now that take nothing for granted
All fucking day.
Stop, just stop
no he's not.
his line is better.
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prepared for our running game today. They have run blitzed every time we pulled the guard, nailing Barkley in the backfield.
Giants haven’t run the ball enough regardless. But a FB in with Saquon, lineup and hit them in the mouth.
Our OL hasn’t blocked worth a damn to run the ball
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
Now, a game winning TD drive!
But should Daboll have declined penalty and make it 3rd and 4 rather than 2nd and 9?
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I guess the coaches trust him!
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
Can Jones win the game?
;>)
Can Jones win the game?
If he can get Gano into FG range, then I think he can, but is he capable of driving the team right now on a TD drive!?
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In comment 15821228 Simms11 said:
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I guess the coaches trust him!
It's a mark on how terrible this talent level is that Tae Crowder continues to start on this defense. Even if Martinez was still here he'd be the second ILB and that's simply not good enough.
Beavers' injury was a huge loss. I think he would have replaced Crowder by week 4, the latest. Perhaps to start the season.
Definitely would have loved to see what the run defense would be like without Crowder. He's a special teams guy only.
;>)
On first down?
Been real ugly all game
Was thinking the same thing.
;>)
Picking up gano was my big brain move of FF week 2 lol
The offense has been dreadful. The OL HAS to be the strength of this team and they have been poor-at best today.
And its a tie game with 10 minutes to go.
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That hit in Baker could have been flagged.
Was thinking the same thing.
Looked more like he pulled back once the ball was thrown. Noticed he didn't try to wrap him up at all. Pulled his arms back.
I was surprised it wasn't.
Thought that too…
Had about 7 seconds and no one within 7/8 yards of him, lol
The offense has been dreadful. The OL HAS to be the strength of this team and they have been poor-at best today.
And its a tie game with 10 minutes to go.
Can't expect the O-line to be our strength, when Thomas has played 30 games, Neal 1, and this is the 2nd game ever as a unit. They're doing OK in the 2nd half, all things considered.
Yep
Yupper.
The whole Oline has, but he clearly was bad!
we know what that answer is :/
Good ?
TBF our OL was finally kicking a lit butt at that point until JF got blown up
Need a perfectly timed corner blitz or something to save us
Need a perfectly timed corner blitz or something to save us
That was so fucking close
That is giants football!
Let’s go Saquon
That was a horrendous call, not even close!
Let’s fucking goooooooooooooooooooooooo!
He's getting reputation calls now in a bad way. They are watching him for any grab.
He got their too early and initiated contact.
2 1st downs and it's over.
who closed in , caught and and saved the TD from McCaffery?
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The Holmes call was BS.
He's getting reputation calls now in a bad way. They are watching him for any grab.
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Awesome
YEARS
We need Daniel Jones to suck so more don't you think
And I’m a pucker the fuck up!
Yeah Jones!
😂 I laughed
PLAYOFFS !!!!
who closed in , caught and and saved the TD from McCaffery?
The new guy, Fabian Moreau.
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Despite the fact he sealed the deal.
We need Daniel Jones to suck so more don't you think
Despite the crap O line Jones played a decent game, good enough to win. Let’s hope the Oline pulls it together so DJ isn’t getting killed every play.
who closed in , caught and and saved the TD from McCaffery?
That was Fabian Moreau, vet cb just elevated from the PS