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Studs and Duds of the game

Big Al : 9/18/2022 4:58 pm
Who will they be. X should be one stud. Can a certain receiver be a dud simply by not participating?
Duds  
adamg : 9/18/2022 4:59 pm : link
The center and two guards?
Stud Guano  
cosmicj : 9/18/2022 5:00 pm : link
I mean Gano
Gettleman's a dud  
Gruber : 9/18/2022 5:00 pm : link
for using a first round pick on Toney and signing Golladay.
Ximenes = Stud of the game  
JohnF : 9/18/2022 5:01 pm : link
Golladay = Dud for the season
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2022 5:01 pm : link
Studs: X-Man, Gano, Xavier.

Duds: KG & KT89.
Holmes made some stupid people eat their words.  
WillieYoung : 9/18/2022 5:02 pm : link
Ward is a godsend. I think he's a big part player wise of instilling the toughness Wink's defense demands.
Maybe  
Big Al : 9/18/2022 5:03 pm : link
we can put Jones in both categories.
Forgot  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2022 5:03 pm : link
Ward. He was solid.
Studs  
David_Upstate : 9/18/2022 5:05 pm : link
Love and Dex
Gano, Wink, Love, McKinney, Ximenes, Sills  
DavidinBMNY : 9/18/2022 5:05 pm : link
All were very impactful.


Jones run to seal it was very cool.

Toney dropping what looked to be a huge gainer was disappointing.

The interior of the OL was mauled today.

I really felt today we out coached the Panthers and that's why we won. Impressive.
Darnay  
Straw Hat : 9/18/2022 5:07 pm : link
Holmes gets an awful penalty every game. He sucks as a cb. Nice play on ythe forced fumble, but im looking forward to when we can upgrade at nickel.
RE: Gettleman's a dud  
Giants73 : 9/18/2022 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15821726 Gruber said:
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for using a first round pick on Toney and signing Golladay.


But is he a dud then for Love, Lawrence, McKinney, Ximinez, Barkley, Holmes, Adore AT as well?
RE: Darnay  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/18/2022 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15821755 Straw Hat said:
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Holmes gets an awful penalty every game. He sucks as a cb. Nice play on ythe forced fumble, but im looking forward to when we can upgrade at nickel.


I'd argue that the refs made a few shit calls against us. The Holmes penalty looked like nothing...almost as bad as the opi against Sills they called.
RE: Maybe  
Jack Stroud : 9/18/2022 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15821740 Big Al said:
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we can put Jones in both categories.
Never gonna get past the Jones hate, are ya?
RE: ...  
section125 : 9/18/2022 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15821731 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Studs: X-Man, Gano, Xavier.

Duds: KG & KT89.


Why KT?
RE: RE: ...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/18/2022 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15821807 section125 said:
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In comment 15821731 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Studs: X-Man, Gano, Xavier.

Duds: KG & KT89.



Why KT?


Had like 2 drops and 2 negative plays
RE: RE: Maybe  
Big Al : 9/18/2022 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15821792 Jack Stroud said:
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In comment 15821740 Big Al said:


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we can put Jones in both categories.

Never gonna get past the Jones hate, are ya?
You have no idea how I felt about Jones. Never even mentioned him on BBI until today on the game thread.
Saquon was a stud again today  
mfsd : 9/18/2022 5:22 pm : link
Not his best stat game, but he ran like a bulldog when it counted most in the 4th quarter. I also thought I saw him do a good job with a couple blitz pickups (he did have that one mediocre on that we all saw easily)
RE: RE: Darnay  
John in No Cal : 9/18/2022 5:23 pm : link
I agree with Thunderstruck. That was a soft call on that flag. Wish they would've replayed it to actually show it closer. Holmes is also a pretty tough tackler and broke up a lot of screen/ McCaffery runs. I think he's a very solid player.

In comment 15821762 Thunderstruck27 said:
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Holmes gets an awful penalty every game. He sucks as a cb. Nice play on ythe forced fumble, but im looking forward to when we can upgrade at nickel.



I'd argue that the refs made a few shit calls against us. The Holmes penalty looked like nothing...almost as bad as the opi against Sills they called.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 9/18/2022 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15821812 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15821807 section125 said:


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In comment 15821731 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Studs: X-Man, Gano, Xavier.

Duds: KG & KT89.



Why KT?



Had like 2 drops and 2 negative plays


Cannot blame him on the runs - that is silly - crappy blocking and bad calls. I did not see the drops.
Feliciano was a definite dud  
jeff57 : 9/18/2022 5:32 pm : link
Along with Toney and Golladay
Studs  
Breeze_94 : 9/18/2022 7:51 pm : link
1. Gano
2. Ximines
3. Adoree
4. McKinney
5. Dex
6. Love
7. Jihad
8. Saquon (great 2nd half)
9. Richie James - his catches were catalysts on the TD drive
10. Holmes- better day in coverage + FF

OL wise- don’t remember anyone standing out. I’m sure Thomas was good but he did get beat a couple times

Duds
1. Golladay
2. IOL
3. DJ - 2nd half was better but man did he leave a ton of opportunities on the field by not seeing open receivers. Turn it lose DJ
Ximines with all out hustle today.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/18/2022 7:58 pm : link
I will be honest...I have said he’s sucks and still think he does.

But he owed us that one after several years!
Duds are everybody in the passing game  
Jimmy Googs : 9/18/2022 7:59 pm : link
except our All Pro Tight End unit!
RE: Studs  
bw in dc : 9/18/2022 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15822279 Breeze_94 said:
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1. Gano
2. Ximines
3. Adoree
4. McKinney
5. Dex
6. Love
7. Jihad
8. Saquon (great 2nd half)
9. Richie James - his catches were catalysts on the TD drive
10. Holmes- better day in coverage + FF

OL wise- don’t remember anyone standing out. I’m sure Thomas was good but he did get beat a couple times

Duds
1. Golladay
2. IOL
3. DJ - 2nd half was better but man did he leave a ton of opportunities on the field by not seeing open receivers. Turn it lose DJ


Love #6? JFC. He was the player of the game.
RE: Studs  
5BowlsSoon : 9/18/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15822279 Breeze_94 said:
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1. Gano
2. Ximines
3. Adoree
4. McKinney
5. Dex
6. Love
7. Jihad
8. Saquon (great 2nd half)
9. Richie James - his catches were catalysts on the TD drive
10. Holmes- better day in coverage + FF

OL wise- don’t remember anyone standing out. I’m sure Thomas was good but he did get beat a couple times

Duds
1. Golladay
2. IOL
3. DJ - 2nd half was better but man did he leave a ton of opportunities on the field by not seeing open receivers. Turn it lose DJ


I was unable to see Jones missing not seeing wide open receivers like you saw….I watched on tv….were you there at the game?
RE: RE: Studs  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/18/2022 8:31 pm : link
In comment 15822321 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15822279 Breeze_94 said:


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1. Gano
2. Ximines
3. Adoree
4. McKinney
5. Dex
6. Love
7. Jihad
8. Saquon (great 2nd half)
9. Richie James - his catches were catalysts on the TD drive
10. Holmes- better day in coverage + FF

OL wise- don’t remember anyone standing out. I’m sure Thomas was good but he did get beat a couple times

Duds
1. Golladay
2. IOL
3. DJ - 2nd half was better but man did he leave a ton of opportunities on the field by not seeing open receivers. Turn it lose DJ



I was unable to see Jones missing not seeing wide open receivers like you saw….I watched on tv….were you there at the game?


I'm sure heis just regurgitating what other posters have said
Jones'...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/18/2022 9:09 pm : link
...field vision continues to be a problem.
RE: RE: Gettleman's a dud  
giantstock : 9/18/2022 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15821761 Giants73 said:
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In comment 15821726 Gruber said:


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for using a first round pick on Toney and signing Golladay.



But is he a dud then for Love, Lawrence, McKinney, Ximinez, Barkley, Holmes, Adore AT as well?


For about half of them- yes.
Outcoaching  
MeanBunny : 9/18/2022 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15821748 DavidinBMNY said:
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All were very impactful.


Jones run to seal it was very cool.

Toney dropping what looked to be a huge gainer was disappointing.

The interior of the OL was mauled today.

I really felt today we out coached the Panthers and that's why we won. Impressive.

Thank you for mentioning that like bills vs. Giants Superbowl that was a COACHiNG win over player talent win. The talent is a total MEH but you use the firepower when you need it(Gano) and you let Jones just win it ugly. At the end of the day the Giants won
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman's a dud  
Gruber : 9/19/2022 8:26 am : link
In comment 15822447 giantstock said:
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In comment 15821726 Gruber said:


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for using a first round pick on Toney and signing Golladay.



But is he a dud then for Love, Lawrence, McKinney, Ximinez, Barkley, Holmes, Adore AT as well?



For about half of them- yes.


Also, just about any other competent GM would have drafted a number of decent players, so it's not like Gettleman is a genius for doing his job.
However: using a #2 pick on a running back, drafting an undoubtedly talented but still unreliable and gimmick or gadget receiver, and then throwing money at Golladay are not great strategies. We also don't have a franchise QB.
can we stop with any Gettleman debate?  
fkap : 9/19/2022 8:39 am : link
It's my opinion (and I believe the opinion of the vast majority) that he left the team in horrible, horrible shape. A couple of things went his way. Most did not. I fail to see any room for debate there. Judge his overall body of work. Same with judging the dud/stud category. I'm sure all of the duds made at least one good play and the studs made some bad plays.
RE: RE: RE: Maybe  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2022 9:11 am : link
In comment 15821813 Big Al said:
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In comment 15821740 Big Al said:


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we can put Jones in both categories.

Never gonna get past the Jones hate, are ya?

You have no idea how I felt about Jones. Never even mentioned him on BBI until today on the game thread.

Of all the games to put Jones in the dud category, I’m not sure a game that they won and he didn’t turn the ball over is anywhere near the list
Big Al also put  
fkap : 9/19/2022 9:16 am : link
Jones in the stud category.

It's a fairly decent description of DJ's day.
being both stud and  
fkap : 9/19/2022 9:16 am : link
dud
Over the last few years  
Big Al : 9/19/2022 9:56 am : link
I have seen good and bad things about Jones and was hopeful but I made a conscious effort to never join in the Jones discussions. Yesterday during the first half I was so frustrated about his inability to see the field that I finally threw in the towel and commented here that it was not going to work.

He is never going to be up with the very best qbs which is what some here will never settle for less but there are simply not enough in that class to go around. Can he be enough for us? I don’t know and it depends on what the coaches think and want but yesterday despite the second half leaves me in great doubt.

I really hope he can improve because I see no really top alternative in our future.
Could sense the frustration, Big Al  
fkap : 9/19/2022 10:14 am : link
You've never been a quick to bash fellow.

I've been on the fence, but with each passing game, there's less and less reason to be optimistic. At the point you made the comment, it really seemed DJ was a flat tire with nothing more to show. Didn't the bastard bounce back, though!

I was thinking he might show enough to warrant a low cost bridge contract. Unless he really steps up, no one is giving him anything but a show me contract. I'm still on the fence about whether even that is worth it.

Obviously, replace him if possible. But is there anyone? Don't think we'll be within reach of the top draft prospects.
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