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2022 = 1997?

lawguy9801 : 9/18/2022 9:20 pm
Universal predictions for a last place/bad year

Pedestrian/below average offense

Game management-style QB play

Stout defense

Winning close games and/or games they're not supposed to win

Overall, results indicating a team that's greater than the sum of its parts

I'd prefer not ending the season losing on an onside kick recovery and last-minute TD, but through two games the comparison is setting up....
And  
lawguy9801 : 9/18/2022 9:21 pm : link
Rookie head coach with a new program
Yes  
hassan : 9/18/2022 9:33 pm : link
somewhat similar. Best comp thus far. If Davis Webb played danny kanell replacing Daniel Jones as Dave Brown, it would be very eerily similar :)
Rather it be  
David B. : 9/18/2022 9:34 pm : link
2006
lets wish for 1990 if we are wishing.....  
hassan : 9/18/2022 9:47 pm : link
beating the Bills in SB again would be sweet.....:)
I've seen a lot of parallels to 1997  
Matt in SGS : 9/18/2022 9:50 pm : link
and mentioned it on my twitter feed. Not only all those things you listed, but you also have an offensive head coach who will strip back his system because he knows he doesn't have all the pieces yet, and doesn't quite trust his QB, OL, and WRs. But he knows he's got a good RB so he will play ball control, as Fassel did with Way and Tiki.

Also, they had a blitz happy DC in John Fox, who held teams down & got turnovers to keep the team in the game. This Giants defense doesn't have the talent the 1997 one does, but let's see what Wink does when his best 2 pass rushers come back.

I think building a winning culture now is huge, and let's see the Daboll/Kafka offense when they get their QB to run it & overhaul the WRs.

Daboll is adjusting his style to fit his team and they are 2-0. Much better than Joe Judge trying to tell everyone that he's building a culture and don't look at the wins. This is pro football, wins matter.
RE: I've seen a lot of parallels to 1997  
lawguy9801 : 9/18/2022 10:24 pm : link
In comment 15822510 Matt in SGS said:
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and mentioned it on my twitter feed. Not only all those things you listed, but you also have an offensive head coach who will strip back his system because he knows he doesn't have all the pieces yet, and doesn't quite trust his QB, OL, and WRs. But he knows he's got a good RB so he will play ball control, as Fassel did with Way and Tiki.

Also, they had a blitz happy DC in John Fox, who held teams down & got turnovers to keep the team in the game. This Giants defense doesn't have the talent the 1997 one does, but let's see what Wink does when his best 2 pass rushers come back.

I think building a winning culture now is huge, and let's see the Daboll/Kafka offense when they get their QB to run it & overhaul the WRs.

Daboll is adjusting his style to fit his team and they are 2-0. Much better than Joe Judge trying to tell everyone that he's building a culture and don't look at the wins. This is pro football, wins matter.


Great stuff - thanks for this. If I recall correctly, the team not only led in turnover differential (I think they were +25 or something like that) but they actually had the most turnovers caused on defense and the fewest turnovers committed on offense. I think it was like 44-19 or something crazily lopsided.
My thoughts were of 1981  
Snablats : 9/18/2022 10:30 pm : link
went 9-7 out of nowhere after years and years of awful football
I’m thinking 1997 all the time  
cosmicj : 9/19/2022 5:35 am : link
Differences are that we have a new GM leading a major organizational change. Accorsi took over in ‘98, but that was more a transition.

I also am hopeful that Daboll will turn into a better coach than Fassel. A lot of good signs there.

The biggest thing going for the 1997 Giants was the defense  
truebluelarry : 9/19/2022 9:25 am : link
was a turnover machine. They had 44 takeaways and the Giants lead the NFL in turnover differential at +26.
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