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Have we finally reached the parody in this league

eli4life : 9/18/2022 11:36 pm
That Roger and co. Have strived for? After two weeks we have 5-6 teams that haven’t lost (depending on tomorrow) and 6-7 without a win with two having a tie and 3 of them thought to be very much in the mix for the afc.
parity my dude  
Nitro : 9/18/2022 11:44 pm : link
we were parody for a very long time.
Those pre-Madonnas  
TheEvilLurker : 9/18/2022 11:46 pm : link
Midas whale be us on top, for once. Any point that other teams made is mute.
The NFL doesn’t have great teams any more  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2022 12:17 am : link
Hasn’t for quite a while, really.

My interest in the rest of the league beyond the Giants is as low as it’s ever been.
RE: The NFL doesn’t have great teams any more  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/19/2022 1:11 am : link
In comment 15822669 Greg from LI said:
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Hasn’t for quite a while, really.

My interest in the rest of the league beyond the Giants is as low as it’s ever been.


Yup. The NFL was must watch TV, no matter who was playing, up until about 15 years ago. Now I just care about the Giants.
I’m not sure what you are trying to prove. With 32 teams, probability  
Ivan15 : 9/19/2022 6:26 am : link
Says that 16 teams will have won and 16 teams will have lost after Week 1, neglecting ties. After Week 2, 8 teams (25%) will be undefeated and 8 teams will be without a win. Are you suggesting that it is parity because slightly more than 20% of the teams don’t have a win and slightly less than 20% are undefeated?

Wake me after 4-5 weeks if no teams are undefeated and no teams don’t have a win. That would be closer to parity.
The striking thing this year has been the number of huge comebacks.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/19/2022 6:46 am : link
We see one team dominate for a half, only to see their opponent flip the script and erase the deficit. It’s a sign of parity, certainly. It’s also related to smarter adjustments, rule changes that favor passing, and perhaps officials putting their thumb on the scale occasionally to help a team get back in a game.

No matter how much coaches warn against “taking our foot off the gas”, it’s human nature to let up a bit. And often, the coaches themselves are the worst offenders.
Just a guess: Technology might be a factor.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/19/2022 7:00 am : link
Not just in terms of scouting,. Now it’s a near-real-time influence. Those sideline sessions poring over an MS-Surface may look like Microsoft ads; but the combination of instant video with advanced analytics may actually be helping to level the playing field. In-game adjustments have come a long way from “Don’t let Jerry Rice beat us.”
RE: RE: The NFL doesn’t have great teams any more  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/19/2022 7:26 am : link
In comment 15822677 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 15822669 Greg from LI said:


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Hasn’t for quite a while, really.

My interest in the rest of the league beyond the Giants is as low as it’s ever been.



Yup. The NFL was must watch TV, no matter who was playing, up until about 15 years ago. Now I just care about the Giants.

Keep in mind that the same decline in interest can often also be a function of your own age and maturation. If the 15 years that you're referring to are from, say age 25 to 40, there's a massive difference in what's important to a 25 year old compared to a 40 year old, and to compound that, there's also generally a sizable difference in the available bandwidth to consume those things that we consider important.

My point is that even if Goodell maintained the status quo exactly how he inherited the league from Tagliabue, and even if the players were exactly the same and rivalries exactly the same, your interest level in the league at large might likely have declined as a function of YOU, rather than the NFL.

Sure, you can point to a number of factors that exacerbate that, but chances are, the league outside of the Giants would just be less of a priority for you 15 years later no matter what.
RE: RE: RE: The NFL doesn’t have great teams any more  
ChrisRick : 9/19/2022 7:29 am : link
In comment 15822745 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15822677 sb from NYT Forum said:


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In comment 15822669 Greg from LI said:


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Hasn’t for quite a while, really.

My interest in the rest of the league beyond the Giants is as low as it’s ever been.



Yup. The NFL was must watch TV, no matter who was playing, up until about 15 years ago. Now I just care about the Giants.


Keep in mind that the same decline in interest can often also be a function of your own age and maturation. If the 15 years that you're referring to are from, say age 25 to 40, there's a massive difference in what's important to a 25 year old compared to a 40 year old, and to compound that, there's also generally a sizable difference in the available bandwidth to consume those things that we consider important.

My point is that even if Goodell maintained the status quo exactly how he inherited the league from Tagliabue, and even if the players were exactly the same and rivalries exactly the same, your interest level in the league at large might likely have declined as a function of YOU, rather than the NFL.

Sure, you can point to a number of factors that exacerbate that, but chances are, the league outside of the Giants would just be less of a priority for you 15 years later no matter what.


Good point GD
RE: parity my dude  
ZogZerg : 9/19/2022 7:34 am : link
In comment 15822650 Nitro said:
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we were parody for a very long time.


This^^
We have been there for a long time.
Yes - there are no good teams anymore  
averagejoe : 9/19/2022 7:39 am : link
Giants had Taylor and Banks. SF had Rice and Taylor. Would not happen today in capworld. It would be Rice or Taylor and Taylor or Banks . Teams today are not deep and have no continuity as key players need to be replaced each year.

I'm not sure about parody but parity has been reached. And it is not a good thing .
I don't think it is fair  
fkap : 9/19/2022 9:10 am : link
to say there are no good teams anymore. There have been teams that have several years of being superbowl contenders. New England, anyone? KC? looks like Bills and Bengals are joining the club.

How about the opposite? Some teams have their cycles of being bottom dwellers. Giants are a prime example.

Parity has made it so there's a huge middle of the pack, and a greater rate of rise and fall.

I took the opening post as querying whether Giants have elevated themselves out of the basement and into the middle of the pack. Too soon to answer. Coaching looks good. Not sure we have the player talent to plant ourselves firmly in the middle.
Parody is the right word, it's a parody of what football once was  
Victor in CT : 9/19/2022 9:31 am : link
the league stinks. Better to be 2-0 and bad than 0-2 for sure, but that was a shit game played by 2 shit teams.

Like Greg, I rarely watch any other games anymore.
How are you guys assessing parity?  
Jerry in_DC : 9/19/2022 9:41 am : link
(Especially if you don't watch NFL games)?

- We are coming off perhaps the largest dynasty in league history
- There are obvious good teams and bad teams - ie last year there were 2 pretenders in the playoffs (PHI and PIT) and both were annihilated
- KC has hosted the AFCCG for 4 straight years
- There was a clear upper crust of teams last year - KC, BUF, LA, GB, TB, SF. Granted CIN made a run but it was clear that there were good teams
- The good teams tend to be good for 3-5 year
- There are clear bad teams who tend to stay bad for a number of year

How is this some extreme parity? Or parody?

Probably what is happening is that you don't engage with sports as much because you're older. This has happened to me too, but I don't blame the sport for it.
Games were great yesterday  
weeg in the bronx : 9/19/2022 9:43 am : link
Lots of nail biters, unexpected winners. The league is fine.
Of course we do not have parity - The Giants are dominating  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2022 9:49 am : link
the league at 2-0
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