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A simple observation of our new staff - the "little things"

BillyM : 9/19/2022 8:11 am
No untimely or uncoordinated use of time outs

No stupid penalties that shoot us in the foot

No massive influx of game changing turnovers. Even when Jones throws a bone head pass (late first half yesterday) he rebounds quite nicely.

From a talent perspective, we are perhaps marginally better than last year. I was at the game yesterday. The eye test wasn't pleasing, to put it lightly in the first half. Boos were raining down.

The difference? This team adapts and re-schemes in the second half, which is the hallmark of a good coaching staff. They kept their head down and grinded out the win. A Judge led team yesterday loses that game, in my honest opinion.

The little things matter, and both Daboll and Wink seem to have it very much under control. Wink may be the biggest signing we have had in a while. The guy is tremendous.
Bonafide NFL  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/19/2022 8:15 am : link
Coaching makes a difference.

Get them sone talent & we’ll have something.
Shockingly,  
section125 : 9/19/2022 8:17 am : link
they make halftime adjustments on both sides of the ball.

The difference in coaching is startling. IMHO, this staff is more organized then even TC's.

And, going back to Parcells' days, I see Daboll barking at players during the game.
They have in both games  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/19/2022 8:41 am : link
tried to open thing up on offense. Just not enough talent (all around) to make it work. Then both games they committed and stuck with the run. It has not been pretty on offense and they will need to find a way to get more from the pass game but that commitment has really helped the D IMV. When Williams went down the Panthers were getting it going and the O possessing the ball really helped.

Wink and the D have been outstanding.
They desperately  
Costy16 : 9/19/2022 8:42 am : link
Needed to stick to running the ball more in the second half, and finally did. I thought Kafka's playcalling in the first half was marginal at best. Carolina was aimed at stopping the run, but lineup and hit them in the mouth and see how they respond. They leaned on the run at the right time yesterday as the game progressed in the second half. That play with Saquon, Brightwell and Breida on the field was a fantastic call and design.
RE: They desperately  
cosmicj : 9/19/2022 8:46 am : link
In comment 15822843 Costy16 said:
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Needed to stick to running the ball more in the second half, and finally did. I thought Kafka's playcalling in the first half was marginal at best. Carolina was aimed at stopping the run, but lineup and hit them in the mouth and see how they respond. They leaned on the run at the right time yesterday as the game progressed in the second half. That play with Saquon, Brightwell and Breida on the field was a fantastic call and design.


I don’t pretend that I as a fan can judge play calling quality based on watching the game except for egregious mistakes. Fans simply don’t have enough information.
I love the new coaching staff  
Big Al : 9/19/2022 8:47 am : link
but one little thing bothered me. Am I remembering wrong or could we simply run out the clock after the Jones first down? Why the Barkley run before the final two kneel downs.

This may sound petty but a certain play from the past has made me paranoid about this situation.
BillyM  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/19/2022 8:47 am : link
Agree mostly, but Darnay Holmes' "stupid" penalties could have killed the Giants last week.

People tend to adjust their perspective based on W/L record.
The fact that we go into late game situations with all 3  
cosmicj : 9/19/2022 8:47 am : link
Timeouts… wow. Can’t get used to it. It’s a sign of the coaches rigorously sticking to their process and working on quality control.

I’m loving Daboll. Let’s say it- this guy may be the next great franchise coach.
The only "boos" was at end of half....when they decided not to push it  
George from PA : 9/19/2022 8:57 am : link
Which I took as a lack of trust toward Jones.

The offense went better...after they started going downfield....as Carolina had bottled up Barkley
Timeouts  
armstead98 : 9/19/2022 8:57 am : link
Towards the end of the game there was a moment I looked like the giants might need some timeouts to stop the clock.

I looked down to see how many they had and was very happy to see all three remaining. It’s a small thing but absolutely critical.

It definitely feels like the giants are doing the little things that make up the difference between winning and losing.

Another is the 3rd and 4th down decisions. On third and long they are aggressive and for it. On 4th down they’ve always gone for it when I’ve wanted them to.

We finally seem to have a staff who is up to speed on analytics, game theory and the like.
The biggest difference  
TrueBlue56 : 9/19/2022 9:17 am : link
That I have seen is more about how we are procedurally.

How many delay of games have we seen over the years? How many burnt time outs wasted because they couldn't get the right personnel on the field? The offense lining up with 8 seconds on the play clock.

We are not killing ourselves with the bone headed and drive killing penalties.

It's 2 games, but we haven't had any unnecessary roughness, personal fouls, roughing the passer or unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. We also have not had any neutral zone infractions.
RE: BillyM  
Snablats : 9/19/2022 9:22 am : link
In comment 15822856 Eric from BBI said:
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Agree mostly, but Darnay Holmes' "stupid" penalties could have killed the Giants last week.

People tend to adjust their perspective based on W/L record.

But Holmes has done that under three different coaches now, so it's not the coaching, it's Holmes
See: Daboll’s Comment  
regischarlotte : 9/19/2022 10:11 am : link
in his presser about getting lined up.

Basically sums up the new staff in a nutshell.

Organization is in a much better place it seems.
RE: See: Daboll’s Comment  
regischarlotte : 9/19/2022 10:14 am : link
In comment 15823056 regischarlotte said:
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in his presser about getting lined up.

Basically sums up the new staff in a nutshell.

Organization is in a much better place it seems.



Q: In the first quarter after your second field goal, it looked like that third-down play, the offense wasn’t in the right position. Clock was going down, and then it seemed like you pulled the offense to the side over there. An official came over and talked to you. What did the official talk to you about?
A: All I was saying was look, ‘We got to get in the huddle. We got to hear the play call, and we got to line up properly.’ And that has nothing to do with defense. It has to do with getting in the huddle, hearing the call and get lined up properly just to give yourself a fighting chance at the start of a play. And I thought that we were a little slow out of the huddle, so I just let those guys know that.
RE: I love the new coaching staff  
Big Al : 9/19/2022 10:32 am : link
In comment 15822855 Big Al said:
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but one little thing bothered me. Am I remembering wrong or could we simply run out the clock after the Jones first down? Why the Barkley run before the final two kneel downs.

This may sound petty but a certain play from the past has made me paranoid about this situation.
This had nothing to do with the topic of this thread but I just saw that Herman Edwards got fired yesterday,
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