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Has anyone changed their expected Win output?

ChrisRick : 9/19/2022 8:15 am
I really had a hard time putting a specific number of wins on this team before the season. I was in the 4-7 win group. With two wins in two games has anyone who had a specific number of wins changing their expectations? Just curious.

This is a young team with a first time head coach and still many holes to fill (qb being the biggest one more than likely), so I expect some real struggles at some point. Although, the thought has crossed my mind that if perhaps this coaching staff is for real then maybe the roster may not be as bad as we thought. Players who were disappointments before may become assets (Ximines is showing that SO FAR).
Well - I had them at 3 wins and both of the first two as losses  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/19/2022 8:16 am : link
so I'm very happy that this team is exceeding my expectations and will probably exceed 3 wins : ) this season
RE: Well - I had them at 3 wins and both of the first two as losses  
ChrisRick : 9/19/2022 8:18 am : link
In comment 15822795 gidiefor said:
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so I'm very happy that this team is exceeding my expectations and will probably exceed 3 wins : ) this season


I hope so! :)
I wanted to be 4-4 at the bye  
Sean : 9/19/2022 8:21 am : link
I’ll stick with that. The roster still has major holes and it’s hard to win in the NFL when you aren’t getting in the end zone on offense. But, I’m thrilled to be 2-0 and hope it continues next week.
I said 6-11.  
section125 : 9/19/2022 8:23 am : link
I am wavering. However, the offense is still marginal. I am a bit skeptical of the play calling, but Kafka is new to it and I think Daboll is allowing him to learn OTJ. The oline seemed to have a setback yesterday, but got better after halftime - just like the previous week.
IMHO, the offense is less than I expected, but the defense is better.

No.  
Jerz44 : 9/19/2022 8:24 am : link
I expected them to win the Super Bowl and am only more confident now in that outcome.
RE: No.  
bluefin : 9/19/2022 8:30 am : link
In comment 15822808 Jerz44 said:
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I expected them to win the Super Bowl and am only more confident now in that outcome.

that’s the spirit
NOPE- I had 8-9 all off season  
jvm52106 : 9/19/2022 8:31 am : link
and doubled down on it before the season began.
I had them at  
M.S. : 9/19/2022 8:31 am : link

6-11 max, and I haven’t changed that guess because our offense isn’t pass blocking very well.

But the defense has been a very pleasant surprise!!!
I had them at 7 wins this year, but have them at 9 as long as Adoree,  
Returning Video Tapes : 9/19/2022 8:34 am : link
DJ, Saquon, AT, and McKinney stay healthy.

Adoree goes down and the entire defense will be toast. Most irreplaceable player on roster right now.
RE: I said 6-11.  
JOrthman : 9/19/2022 8:39 am : link
In comment 15822805 section125 said:
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I am wavering. However, the offense is still marginal. I am a bit skeptical of the play calling, but Kafka is new to it and I think Daboll is allowing him to learn OTJ. The oline seemed to have a setback yesterday, but got better after halftime - just like the previous week.
IMHO, the offense is less than I expected, but the defense is better.


What are you skeptical of the play calling? I think it's light years ahead of past seasons.
Yes, I have them up to 7-8 right now  
cosmicj : 9/19/2022 8:41 am : link
I actually saw them being at .500 in October due to a very weak schedule but expected that to tail off as the opponents got better. The Titans win was completely unexpected and showed they are competitive.

There’s a lot of parity in the league right now. Any team with good coaching can pull out wins, especially if they have a really terrific kicker like Gano.
Predicting  
joeinpa : 9/19/2022 8:44 am : link
Wins and losses before a season begins is a fun activity but often an exercise of little validity

Every NFL season is a different entity devoid of any connection to the previous season, the amount of turnover on NFL rosters make it so.

Yet most predictions are based on the previous season. This has some validity in identifying the best and worst teams, but it overlooks the idea that some players, in a better system, with better coaching might be better than anyone knew

I ve stated before, sometimes we don’t know a team is good, until they are.

Right now this Giants team is making plays in crunch time and seems to have more depth of talent than anyone expected. There were many young untested players in that game yesterday that seemed to hold up well and contributed to another win

I assumed 1-1 and 2-2 ....Monday night is a key game.  
George from PA : 9/19/2022 8:50 am : link
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I had them at 9 wins  
Lambuth_Special : 9/19/2022 8:51 am : link
The results so far seems right in line with that.

People forget they were 4-7 last year before Jones went down and had lost 3 of the 4 games that were decided by 3 points or less, so they were more like a 5-6 team. Add an easier schedule and better coaching and you get a 8-9 win team.
I figured we’d be 6-8 if things went our way  
eli4life : 9/19/2022 8:53 am : link
Or 3-6 if they didn’t bounce our way. But I also think wins were kinda irrelevant this year as I expected us to have big improvements across the board but not necessarily translating to wins this season due to the lack of talent from carrying so much dead cap
I had them at 6/7 wins  
UConn4523 : 9/19/2022 9:02 am : link
still seems about right as I expect the injuries to bite us at some point. We are playing down so many guys already and we can't expect to win 1-3 point victories every week and only scoring 20ish points.
I'm pretty sure I had them 6-11  
islander1 : 9/19/2022 9:03 am : link
and that's still entirely probable.

- No Golladay, no Toney.
- QBing is pretty terrible.
- Offensive Line is still questionable
- We probably lost Leonard Williams for a long time, if not the season (conjecture)

As long as teams don't see the passing game as a threat, we're going to be in uphill battles. James and Sills are scaring no one.

It's taken some fairly good fortune (deserved, perhaps) to be 2-0.

I do think you can have a 6-11 season and be improved. We have to try and ignore the end of season record this time around and look for actual progress within the game.
RE: I said 6-11.  
cjac : 9/19/2022 9:26 am : link
In comment 15822805 section125 said:
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I am wavering. However, the offense is still marginal. I am a bit skeptical of the play calling, but Kafka is new to it and I think Daboll is allowing him to learn OTJ. The oline seemed to have a setback yesterday, but got better after halftime - just like the previous week.
IMHO, the offense is less than I expected, but the defense is better.


I'm still saying 6 wins, nothing has changed my mind. They are def better coached, but the lack of talent on the roster is going to catch up to them.
RE: I wanted to be 4-4 at the bye  
averagejoe : 9/19/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15822804 Sean said:
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I’ll stick with that. The roster still has major holes and it’s hard to win in the NFL when you aren’t getting in the end zone on offense. But, I’m thrilled to be 2-0 and hope it continues next week.


This. Can't win consistently without TD's but still hopeful .
I think if we just have normal attrition  
Essex : 9/19/2022 9:34 am : link
without anything catastrophic on the injury front, I have definitely changed my forecast upward. Not because we are really good or anything like that or that I have really changed my outlook on the roster (except for some areas on defense), but I do think given our schedule we are going to be in a lot of football games and where I was a 3-7 range before the season I am probably in the 5-9 camp now.

I only do ranges because in the NFL so many games come down to a play here or there that is hard to control for. So far, those plays have went our way the first two weeks, which is great.
I predicted 10-7 and I am considering uping the win total  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2022 9:35 am : link
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BrettNYG10 : 9/19/2022 9:37 am : link
I thought 4-7, I think 5-8 now - so yes.
I’m sticking  
George : 9/19/2022 10:17 am : link
With 7 wins.
Yeah when you have more wins banked  
Jerry in_DC : 9/19/2022 10:19 am : link
Then you'd expect to have more wins.

We won 2 toss-up games and won them both. We'll have more and will probably be around .500 in them.

So if you thought we'd win 5-7 as I did, I'd upgrade that to 6-8 now.
I thought we’d be around .500  
Azul Grande : 9/19/2022 10:37 am : link
So 8-9 wins. Now i’m thinking 9-10 wins.

2 wins already, 15 games to go:

6 DIVISION GAMES
So far my read is that we are the second best team in the division behind the Eagles. Division matchups are always competitive, but at least for now I would be mildly surprised if we were under .500 in the division so we should get 3 or 4 wins from our division games. For this exercise, I’m going with 4. That would be 6 wins.

9 NON-DIVISION GAMES

The “Giants Seem Likely to Be Favorites” Games:
I would include our home games against CHI, HOU, IND. I’m going to say that between these three I would expect 2 wins. That takes us to 8.

The “Giants Seem Likely to be Significant Underdogs” Games:
Here I’ll put our road games against GB and MIN and our home games against BAL and DET. Let’s optimistically project to steal one win out of these four because it’s pretty rare for a team to go into an NFL game with a sub 25% chance these days. We’re at 9.

That leaves behind @JAX and @SEA. If you forced me to guess right now, I’d guess a loss at Jax and a win at Seattle, but really I wouldn’t be shocked with 0-2, 2-0, or either combination of 1-1.

That would be enough for a 10 win season.

(For those who hate exercises like this - I don’t disagree. But I’m having fun on a monday morning)




10-6...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/19/2022 10:37 am : link
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Still  
Spider43 : 9/19/2022 10:51 am : link
At 7.
RE: I'm pretty sure I had them 6-11  
BMac : 9/19/2022 11:14 am : link
In comment 15822895 islander1 said:
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and that's still entirely probable.

- No Golladay, no Toney.
- QBing is pretty terrible.
- Offensive Line is still questionable
- We probably lost Leonard Williams for a long time, if not the season (conjecture)

As long as teams don't see the passing game as a threat, we're going to be in uphill battles. James and Sills are scaring no one.

It's taken some fairly good fortune (deserved, perhaps) to be 2-0.

I do think you can have a 6-11 season and be improved. We have to try and ignore the end of season record this time around and look for actual progress within the game.


Nothing like a glass-half-full analysis!
I said 8-9.  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2022 11:19 am : link
I’ll go with 9-8 now. I mentioned a few times, the doom and gloom some have for this season has been odd to me. They won 4 last year under the worst possible circumstances. They’re clearly improved, and are working with an easier schedule in a weakened conference.
thought they would be around .500  
AnnapolisMike : 9/19/2022 11:20 am : link
I will stick with that until they win a few divisional games. This Dallas game should be a nice yardstick. Nice win against a Cincinnati team that appears to be taking a step back this year.
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