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NFT: Mets Monday: Max Returns v. Brew Crew (+Gore)

Beezer : 9/19/2022 3:41 pm
My son saw this earlier today on either Twitter or IG. Had not realized it. Pretty cool.

* Terrance Gore played in 9 games for the 2015 KC Royals. They won the World Series.

* Terrance Gore played in 2 games for the 2020 LA Dodgers. They won the World Series.

* Terrance Gore played in 1 game for the 2021 Atlanta Braves. They won the World Series.

* Terrance Gore has played in 5 game for the 2022 NY Mets. ...

Very bizarre stats for the 31-year-old Gore in his full career. He has 15 base hits (2 doubles, 1 triple) in 69 official ABs (79 plate appearances). He's walked 7 times and struck out 25.

But that's not why he keeps popping up. Gore has 43 steals (3-for-3 as a Met, so far).

Mercenary!

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On to tonight's game, 7:40 p.m. start.

Max returns (9-4, 2.26) v. Corbin Burnes (10-7, 2.97). Battle of the Cy awards.

LFG!
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Lindor and Pete  
spike : 9/19/2022 8:46 pm : link
werent doing much yesterday either.
RE: Splits look pretty consistent for Pete  
Eric on Li : 9/19/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15824320 pjcas18 said:
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just the first half seemed longer than usual making it not exactly a half


3 of the homers in the last 7 days counting tonights and now on a 7 game RBI streak.
RE: RE: Pete Alonso, 3 run HR  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15824308 Dennis said:
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That's what he and the Mets need.



Anyone know what Pete's hitting stats for the 2nd half vs 1st half are?
My sense is he has not hit as well in the 2nd half.


Here is a partial list of his splits. What a significant difference. I think this may be the biggest factor in why the Mets have cooled off in the 2 nd half.

G AB PA H 1b 2B 3b HR R RBI BB IBB AV
2022 1st Half 92 344 395 91 52 15 0 24 50 78 34 7 .265

2022 2nd Half 55 206 235 56 35 10 0 11 31 37 25 8 .272
106mph from nimmo there  
Eric on Li : 9/19/2022 9:01 pm : link
standing by to see how many parks it would have been out of but the .840 xba suggests a bunch.
Pete  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2022 9:02 pm : link
needs 6 RBI in the final 13+ games to tie the Mets single season record of 124 (Piazza and Wright).

7 to break it.

RE: Splits look pretty consistent for Pete  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15824320 pjcas18 said:
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just the first half seemed longer than usual making it not exactly a half


I may be misunderstanding what I'm reading, but the 2nd half looked much better, even allowing for fewer games in the 2nd half.

HR's: Twice as many
Doubles: 50% more
Runs: Almost twice as many

Am I misreading this? If so, my mistake.
RE: RE: Splits look pretty consistent for Pete  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2022 9:20 pm : link
In comment 15824345 Dennis said:
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In comment 15824320 pjcas18 said:


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just the first half seemed longer than usual making it not exactly a half



I may be misunderstanding what I'm reading, but the 2nd half looked much better, even allowing for fewer games in the 2nd half.

HR's: Twice as many
Doubles: 50% more
Runs: Almost twice as many

Am I misreading this? If so, my mistake.


the first half had 92 games this year, if you look at the "ratio stats" instead of the counting stats the 1st half is slightly better, but not a ton.
RE: RE: RE: Splits look pretty consistent for Pete  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15824367 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15824345 Dennis said:


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In comment 15824320 pjcas18 said:


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just the first half seemed longer than usual making it not exactly a half



I may be misunderstanding what I'm reading, but the 2nd half looked much better, even allowing for fewer games in the 2nd half.

HR's: Twice as many
Doubles: 50% more
Runs: Almost twice as many

Am I misreading this? If so, my mistake.



the first half had 92 games this year, if you look at the "ratio stats" instead of the counting stats the 1st half is slightly better, but not a ton.


OK, Thanks😊
Max  
spike : 9/19/2022 9:25 pm : link
has been filthy tonight.

Need to save some for the Braves series though.
why isn't he batting Escobar behind Alonso?  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 9:31 pm : link
It would seem to give some additional protection to Alonso. What am I not seeing?
Get  
spike : 9/19/2022 9:46 pm : link
mcgill out of there
the megill return looking like his triple a stint  
Eric on Li : 9/19/2022 9:48 pm : link
RE: Get  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15824408 spike said:
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mcgill out of there


I really like Megill, and I feel badly for him. I hope he can settle down and pitch like he has the potential to pitch.
I know he’s coming off IL and has a pitch count, but  
speedywheels : 9/19/2022 9:48 pm : link
Tough to see max pulled with a shot at a perfecto
RE: I know he’s coming off IL and has a pitch count, but  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15824418 speedywheels said:
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Tough to see max pulled with a shot at a perfecto


+1, but I suppose bucky wants to be safe rather than sorry.
perhaps Megill  
spike : 9/19/2022 9:53 pm : link
needs more time in AAA
RE: RE: I know he’s coming off IL and has a pitch count, but  
speedywheels : 9/19/2022 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15824419 Dennis said:
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Tough to see max pulled with a shot at a perfecto



+1, but I suppose bucky wants to be safe rather than sorry.


Totally get it. But Mets have never had a perfect game. Bummer.
LOL!!!!!  
speedywheels : 9/19/2022 10:03 pm : link
LOL!!! That exchange with Keith and Gary over the chair was HILARIOUS
RE: RE: RE: I know he’s coming off IL and has a pitch count, but  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15824450 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15824418 speedywheels said:


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Tough to see max pulled with a shot at a perfecto



+1, but I suppose bucky wants to be safe rather than sorry.



Totally get it. But Mets have never had a perfect game. Bummer.


Speedy, I know, I feel the same way, how exciting it would have been.
RE: LOL!!!!!  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15824451 speedywheels said:
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LOL!!! That exchange with Keith and Gary over the chair was HILARIOUS


LOL, Speedy, they're continuing the chair schtick.
Don't the Mets clinch a playoff spot with a win tonight?  
Dennis : 9/19/2022 10:18 pm : link
??
they're officially in the playoffs  
Eric on Li : 9/19/2022 10:33 pm : link
anyone hear an update on marte lately?
RE: they're officially in the playoffs  
larryflower37 : 9/19/2022 11:03 pm : link
In comment 15824492 Eric on Li said:
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anyone hear an update on marte lately?

Cohen said something on the broadcast about possible next week but a couple days ago it was being reported it could be season ending.
So I basically have no clue at this point
can Atlanta stop winning please  
islander1 : 9/19/2022 11:29 pm : link
FFS we can't shake them.
RE: can Atlanta stop winning please  
cjac : 9/19/2022 11:36 pm : link
In comment 15824552 islander1 said:
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FFS we can't shake them.


It gonna come down to those 3 games when we play them.
RE: RE: LOL!!!!!  
speedywheels : 9/20/2022 12:32 am : link
In comment 15824456 Dennis said:
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LOL!!! That exchange with Keith and Gary over the chair was HILARIOUS



LOL, Speedy, they're continuing the chair schtick.


😂😂😂
RE: RE: can Atlanta stop winning please  
speedywheels : 9/20/2022 12:34 am : link
In comment 15824555 cjac said:
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FFS we can't shake them.



It gonna come down to those 3 games when we play them.


Yep. ATL is not going to do stupid things like, i don’t know, get swept at home by teams like the Cubs.

😡😡

Mets need to assume ATL will keep winning, so they need to do the same.
RE: RE: they're officially in the playoffs  
Snablats : 9/20/2022 12:36 am : link
In comment 15824530 larryflower37 said:
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anyone hear an update on marte lately?


Cohen said something on the broadcast about possible next week but a couple days ago it was being reported it could be season ending.
So I basically have no clue at this point

Where was it reported that it's a season ending injury? As of Saturday it was being reported that he may return before the end of the regular season
I heard or read it reported somewhere that Starling would be back  
Optimus-NY : 9/20/2022 6:55 am : link
in time for the Braves series in Atlanta, which starts in ten days.
I love the fact  
pjcas18 : 9/20/2022 7:49 am : link
the Mets celebrated making the playoffs and I loved Cohen's comments (paraphrased) "as we win more the celebrations will be bigger"
Not showing up for that series against the Cubs may ultimately be  
CooperDash : 9/20/2022 8:25 am : link
What punches the card for the Mets to take the wildcard instead of the division. At this point I have more faith in the Braves running the table then the Mets, and that’s just the reality. For as easy as the Mets September schedule was, the Braves September schedule was just as easy. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is, and it shouldn’t take away from their amazing season. They just happen to be in the only division where the second place team won the World Series the prior season.

I just hope that we get the opportunity one more time this season to face Strider and show him how “lucky” we are.
RE: Not showing up for that series against the Cubs may ultimately be  
jpkmets : 9/20/2022 8:54 am : link
In comment 15824678 CooperDash said:
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What punches the card for the Mets to take the wildcard instead of the division. At this point I have more faith in the Braves running the table then the Mets, and that’s just the reality. For as easy as the Mets September schedule was, the Braves September schedule was just as easy. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is, and it shouldn’t take away from their amazing season. They just happen to be in the only division where the second place team won the World Series the prior season.

I just hope that we get the opportunity one more time this season to face Strider and show him how “lucky” we are.


Strider has been lined up with Jake, but Barves have more games to play than the Mets before their series next weekend. I think we will miss Strider and Wright. Morton, Fried and Odorizzi unless they juggle or there are rain outs.
Their losing 5 of 6 to Nats and Cubs at home weigh large now.  
Optimus-NY : 9/20/2022 11:09 am : link
If they had even just won 3 of 6, they'd be in a safer position and not have to win these games against the Brewers. Winning the division is critical in this new playoff format, especially with an older team and starting pitching staff, like that of the Mets.
RE: I heard or read it reported somewhere that Starling would be back  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15824621 Optimus-NY said:
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in time for the Braves series in Atlanta, which starts in ten days.


A guy who wrote a book about the Mets shook Marte's hand and that's what he told him but since that time it's apparent they do not in fact have a return date/timeline yet.

"But with about two and half weeks left in a heated battle with the Braves for the NL East title, the Mets and Marte do not have a firm idea of when, or if, one of the club’s most valuable players can suit up again."
RE: Their losing 5 of 6 to Nats and Cubs at home weigh large now.  
speedywheels : 9/20/2022 11:29 am : link
In comment 15824927 Optimus-NY said:
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If they had even just won 3 of 6, they'd be in a safer position and not have to win these games against the Brewers. Winning the division is critical in this new playoff format, especially with an older team and starting pitching staff, like that of the Mets.


Yep, it's a killer. I can "forgive" losing one game to the Nats (well, not really), but not taking 2/3 (if not 3/3) from CHI will highly likely be difference between 1st and 2nd place.
RE: RE: I heard or read it reported somewhere that Starling would be back  
Optimus-NY : 9/20/2022 11:40 am : link
In comment 15824936 DanMetroMan said:
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in time for the Braves series in Atlanta, which starts in ten days.



A guy who wrote a book about the Mets shook Marte's hand and that's what he told him but since that time it's apparent they do not in fact have a return date/timeline yet.

"But with about two and half weeks left in a heated battle with the Braves for the NL East title, the Mets and Marte do not have a firm idea of when, or if, one of the club’s most valuable players can suit up again."


Ah, thanks Dan! I think I got that info then from one of your previous threads or posts here. I have a sneaking suspicion we won't see Marte until the NLDS (provided the Mets make it that far), which is another reason I hope they win the division. Their players need a break. All of them, especially Marte, deGrom, Scherzer, and Bassitt.
Canada  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 4:38 pm : link
dropping the vaccination requirement 9/30. IF the Mets make the WS this would likely be a MAJOR positive change.
**  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 4:38 pm : link
Not at all being "political" or arguing mandates, just all hands on deck once it's dropped.
RE: Canada  
pjcas18 : 9/20/2022 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15825429 DanMetroMan said:
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dropping the vaccination requirement 9/30. IF the Mets make the WS this would likely be a MAJOR positive change.


Why? Only if Toronto makes it too, right?
RE: RE: Canada  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15825457 pjcas18 said:
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dropping the vaccination requirement 9/30. IF the Mets make the WS this would likely be a MAJOR positive change.



Why? Only if Toronto makes it too, right?


Correct but per Heyman the Mets and Phillies had multiple non-vaccinated "stars" that would be ineligible to play had this change not been made.
Cardinals  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:03 pm : link
as well.
Just for the games  
pjcas18 : 9/20/2022 5:07 pm : link
in Toronto.

Just like NYC changed their ruling before the season I feel like Canada would have been pressured to as well, for something as important to the sport as the World Series.

Either way, it's moot now.
RE: Just for the games  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15825463 pjcas18 said:
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in Toronto.

Just like NYC changed their ruling before the season I feel like Canada would have been pressured to as well, for something as important to the sport as the World Series.

Either way, it's moot now.


Yes. For the games in Toronto. You don't see this as potentially a big deal? It's breaking news and yes, could have very well severely impacted the Mets.
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:13 pm : link
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Big plus for Mets, Phillies and other postseason teams that have unvaccinated stars

Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
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congrats to the Cardinals, Mets, and others


Strider  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:14 pm : link
oblique soreness, won't go on the IL but will have a start skipped replaced by Bryce Elder.
RE: RE: Just for the games  
pjcas18 : 9/20/2022 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15825468 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15825463 pjcas18 said:


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in Toronto.

Just like NYC changed their ruling before the season I feel like Canada would have been pressured to as well, for something as important to the sport as the World Series.

Either way, it's moot now.



Yes. For the games in Toronto. You don't see this as potentially a big deal? It's breaking news and yes, could have very well severely impacted the Mets.


It would have been a big deal in the World Series if Toronto made it that far, but a lot would have needed to happen before it became a big deal (to the Mets).
RE: Strider  
speedywheels : 9/20/2022 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15825474 DanMetroMan said:
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oblique soreness, won't go on the IL but will have a start skipped replaced by Bryce Elder.


Gee, that's a shame...
Elder  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:27 pm : link
was dominant vs. Miami in his last start but he's obviously not as good as Strider on paper.
RE: Strider  
speedywheels : 9/20/2022 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15825474 DanMetroMan said:
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oblique soreness, won't go on the IL but will have a start skipped replaced by Bryce Elder.


If he went on the IL he would miss the Mets series, so I wonder if he's not going on the IL so as not to play their hand about his availability for that series?

Then again, perhaps he just has a very mild soreness and they are playing it extra cautiously...
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/20/2022 5:37 pm : link
@GB_Baseball WBC team has some familiar names to @Mets on their roster... Vance Worley, Akeel Morris, Cam Opp #Mets
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