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The changing role of Safeties vs ILB

Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2022 4:51 pm
Per @bobbyskinner

Giants S/ILB packages v. Panthers

3 Safety 1 ILB: 36 plays 62%
2 Safety 2 ILB: 12 plays 21%
4 Safety 0 ILB: 10 plays 17%

•Dane Belton was exclusively deep
•Brought in 2nd ILB when they wanted go into 2-high coverage
•4 Safety sets had Jefferson/McKinney/Love in box together

More than ever, this is a matchup-based league. There is no such thing as "my defense is a 3-4 or a 4-3".

Also says a lot about what they think of Dane Belton to put a rookie in center field.
I think NYG weakness at ILB  
JonC : 9/19/2022 4:59 pm : link
is also playing a role. Their "best" ILBs are poor in coverage and not very stout versus the run either. They're also young and green as grass, so there's probably an element of making due here, in other words.
RE: I think NYG weakness at ILB  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/19/2022 5:07 pm : link
In comment 15823994 JonC said:
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is also playing a role. Their "best" ILBs are poor in coverage and not very stout versus the run either. They're also young and green as grass, so there's probably an element of making due here, in other words.


No, I don't agree.

Wink is pretty straight forward. He has said repeatedly there will be times when he has four ILBs on the field and there will times when he has none.

I really recommend listening to his interview with Schmeelk.
The defensive game plans differed between weeks 1-2  
mattlawson : 9/19/2022 5:37 pm : link
and all week Giants insiders were talking about altering the personnel to deal with a totally different offense in the Panthers
College trends tend to filter up  
Jerry in_DC : 9/19/2022 8:21 pm : link
College O went wide open before the NFL. College D is all about nickel now.

The concept of a front 7 is outdated. Offense changed to pass more and put more pass catchers on the field. Defense responds. There is no real reason why a team has to have 7 DL + LB.
a rare trend nyg was on the front side back to deon grant  
Eric on Li : 9/19/2022 8:26 pm : link
maybe the nascar package with spags too.

feels very lucky pat graham changed his mind.
RE: RE: I think NYG weakness at ILB  
JonC : 9/19/2022 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15824003 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15823994 JonC said:


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is also playing a role. Their "best" ILBs are poor in coverage and not very stout versus the run either. They're also young and green as grass, so there's probably an element of making due here, in other words.



No, I don't agree.

Wink is pretty straight forward. He has said repeatedly there will be times when he has four ILBs on the field and there will times when he has none.

I really recommend listening to his interview with Schmeelk.


I will, but their ILB talent is below average too.
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christian : 9/19/2022 9:45 pm : link
I think the ILB usage is cause and effect with the talent.
Winks defense is positionless football  
Breeze_94 : 9/20/2022 12:33 am : link
on 2nd and 3rd and long.

2 skills that matter- being able to blitz like your hairs on fire and create chaos for the QB, and being quick/long enough to drop and get into pass lanes if you aren't blitzing.

Besides CB and the single high safety, his defense puts the best 11 on the field, regardless of "position"


Does Jaylon Smith instantly become our best coverage ILB?  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 9/20/2022 1:34 am : link
Can he learn the playbook fast enough to be on the field Monday night, matched up with Zeke?
RE: Winks defense is positionless football  
Angel Eyes : 9/20/2022 7:27 am : link
In comment 15824574 Breeze_94 said:
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on 2nd and 3rd and long.

2 skills that matter- being able to blitz like your hairs on fire and create chaos for the QB, and being quick/long enough to drop and get into pass lanes if you aren't blitzing.

Besides CB and the single high safety, his defense puts the best 11 on the field, regardless of "position"


So it's an amoeba defense like Graham's.
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