I expect Buffalo to cruise in the opener. The spread is Buffalo -10. I'd take the over on that. Bills Mafia will be out in full force.
Vikes-Eagles should be a good one. The spread is Eagles -2.5. I like the Vikings here. I just think Minnesota is a flat out better team. They whipped the Pack last weekend & the Cousins-Jefferson combo looked damn good. Justin Jefferson...man, that dude is electric. Thank God Philly took Reagor instead of Jefferson in the '20 draft because the thought of seeing Justin Jefferson 2X a year...no bueno. Goes without saying...Skol!
I like the two MNF games. I believe they're expanding it to 3 times next season.
The 2022 Titans would have easily crushed the 2021 New York Giants...the 2020 New York Giants... the 2019 New York Giants... the 2018 New York Giants...
But it’s 2022 vs 2022.
Nobody’s being dismissive of the win, but the Titans aren’t a good team right now so the excuses for some of our offensive struggles that game (top defense, #1 seed last year) don’t hold much water.
The Bills are on a different level right now.
You don't think Derrick Henry would have run all over the 2021 New York Giants?
You don't think the defense would have given up a touchdown at the end of the first half and/or game?
You don't think the offense would have failed in their comeback attempt?
The point is the Giants have gotten better already this year.
You can wallow in misery like you always do, but I'm looking at the positives.
The Bills are on a different level right now.
You don't think Derrick Henry would have run all over the 2021 New York Giants?
You don't think the defense would have given up a touchdown at the end of the first half and/or game?
You don't think the offense would have failed in their comeback attempt?
The point is the Giants have gotten better already this year.
You can wallow in misery like you always do, but I'm looking at the positives.
I'll admit I had my heart in my mouth during the last Titans drive of that game (Week 1).
The Bills are on a different level right now.
You don't think Derrick Henry would have run all over the 2021 New York Giants?
You don't think the defense would have given up a touchdown at the end of the first half and/or game?
You don't think the offense would have failed in their comeback attempt?
The point is the Giants have gotten better already this year.
You can wallow in misery like you always do, but I'm looking at the positives.
How am I wallowing in misery for having for having an opinion that the Titans aren’t good this year? You guys keep making these accusations but it says more about you guys than me.
Not sure why you keep talking about the 2021 Giants. It’s irrelevant. Has anyone said the Giants haven’t gotten better? No they haven’t.
But it’s ok to point out the Titans, who have punched above their weight class the past couple of years, are missing their best pass rusher, Olineman, their best receiver is Robert Woods coming off an injury, and have a below average QB. They’ve taken a massive step back. That doesn’t diminish the Giants win; every win is a good win. But it’s also not as easy to waive away the offensive struggles of the first half in week 1.
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dismissing the Giants beating the Titans in Week 1 are just plain wrong.
The 2022 Titans would have easily crushed the 2021 New York Giants...the 2020 New York Giants... the 2019 New York Giants... the 2018 New York Giants...
But it’s 2022 vs 2022.
Nobody’s being dismissive of the win, but the Titans aren’t a good team right now so the excuses for some of our offensive struggles that game (top defense, #1 seed last year) don’t hold much water.
I read at least one poster calling the Titans win “fools gold”. I can understand adjusting how we look at the Giants after the Titans game last night, but calling the game “fools good” is dismissive
I mean people are in here saying the Eagles didn’t look that good and it was because the Vikings stunk last night, but it’s not ok to say the Titans don’t look as good as they did last year and that tempers the excitement of that win a little bit?
Why do people care so much because people don’t look at something the same way you do or don’t get as excited?
I mean people are in here saying the Eagles didn’t look that good and it was because the Vikings stunk last night, but it’s not ok to say the Titans don’t look as good as they did last year and that tempers the excitement of that win a little bit?
Why do people care so much because people don’t look at something the same way you do or don’t get as excited?
Not sure who you are talking about but you do this often where you don't like hearing opposing takes of opposing takes.
I think its pretty silly, on such a week to week league where matchups are vital, to downplay a win because the Super Bowl favorites led by an MVP favorite destroyed the team that we beat week 1. If you feel otherwise, perfectly fine but a call out isn't necessary.
Not sure who you are talking about but you do this often where you don't like hearing opposing takes of opposing takes.
If this means I don’t like people being hypocritical, than sure. If it’s ok for people to dismiss the Eagles win because of how their opponent played, then it’s ok for people to question what Week 1 might mean for the Giants as a team the way the Titans looked.
You make an excellent point. But I just gotta say that -- after two games -- I don't think there's an NFL team chomping at the bit to play the Bills. Right now, they are just a beast on a mission.
Amen to that! We'll just have to wait until off-season to find upgrades to several units, but in the mean time I'm enjoying a team that has some fight in it! Haven't seen that in quite a while.
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Not sure who you are talking about but you do this often where you don't like hearing opposing takes of opposing takes.
If this means I don’t like people being hypocritical, than sure. If it’s ok for people to dismiss the Eagles win because of how their opponent played, then it’s ok for people to question what Week 1 might mean for the Giants as a team the way the Titans looked.
I don't know what comments you are referring to but is it really that strange to enjoy a win, know that we aren't some juggernaut now, and also call out how poorly the Vikings played (IMO they quit yesterday). Fuck the Eagles, let people be fans, its really not that serious.
I was called out for being miserable and I didn’t even dismiss the win, I just simply said the Titans aren’t as good as they were last year.
Any win is a good win, I even said that while saying the titans aren’t as good. The personal attacks by some on here for questioning the Titans are just weird.
Plus Gainwell is a threat out of the back field. That offense is extremely dangerous.
(Please note I am not wallowing in misery by saying this)
Incredibly annoying they were able to win a Super Bowl, rebuild it again into a contender while we’re on our fourth year 1 of a rebuild
Giants schedule almost identical to PHI except for three games, but I can see the Eagles being undefeated heading into the bye.
@ Commanders
vs Jaguars
@ Cardinals
vs Cowboys (SNF)
BYE
That isn’t what stood out to me. The thing that I couldn’t understand was what was the Vikings gameplan. They were sitting in a soft zone rushing four. Hurts had all day. He did not make one contested throw until that incompletion that Goeddert dropped. If you are going to sit back in a zone against those receivers you have get pressure on Hurts and make him move
It was not just that they were playing zone all game (while some DB's seemed to think they were playing man which is a whole other story), it is that they were not getting anything resembling a pass rush. You can't give any NFL QB all day to throw. Eventually someone will get open.
Yes, but let them run him all game. Plus, you have linebackers and you could put a safety in the box. If you can get him to release the ball quickly he is not a good QB. You sit back and let his receivers get wide open while he is having a scotch back there, then it looks like last night. There is not a QB in the NFL who couldn’t make one throw that he made in the first half. It was the gameplan that let it happen.
They don't seem as good as the last couple of years but I'm not sure they're that bad, either.
This. A lot of those guys get to be that wide open because of Hurts ability to move the pocket. There were a number of times he was able to move away from pressure, while keeping his eyes down field, reset himself outside the pocket and hit an open receiver. He’s got a very good feel for moving around to get guys open.
Not last night. Last night, the Vikings games plan was he will make a mistake passing, just don’t let him run. So, they sat it in a soft zone, didn’t rush anyone and their OL (their strength) held up long enough for his receivers to find soft spots. If you rush him and okay man, you make get burnt for long runs, but you force him into many more uncomfortable decisions plus you bang him up. if you are going to die a certain way, you would much rather either A) try to have him force throws and B) get hit as opposed to sitting back there and letting him have all day behind their OL. Our second game in Philly last year in the first half was a really good gameplan in stopping him. We got killed because Jake From couldn’t do anything and our defense tired. But a successful game plan against him is to force him to make decisions early
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its about how Hurt's legs (threat of running + ability to scramble/buy time) allow those wide open opportunities to happen at a much higher rate than most other QB's in the game.
This. A lot of those guys get to be that wide open because of Hurts ability to move the pocket. There were a number of times he was able to move away from pressure, while keeping his eyes down field, reset himself outside the pocket and hit an open receiver. He’s got a very good feel for moving around to get guys open.
Oh please. I am giving the Eagles and Hurts all the credit for last night. But if you think it was his legs that was giving him time as opposed to Minnesota not rushing the QB and the Eagles OL being stellar, you are not watching the same game I did.
I don't disagree with the last part. I absolutely think that was their gameplan was to drop back and let him make mistakes in the air and the threat of his legs made them do that. But, the fact remains that their gameplan was bad and I would rather let him actually beat you with his legs than let what happened last night happen.
I think he is a good QB and a threat and like Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murrary, who have similar styles you have to play them a certain way to beat them. I do think that as we have seen with those QBs as well as the season goes on (except for Lamar's MVP year) they kind of wear down. Remember the Cards start last year. And I think Murray is better (not by much) than Hurts. So, that gives me some hope that this will dial down, but as I said before their win was 1) impressive and 2) their schedule is very favorable for them to go on a huge run like 2017
He is not there coach anymore, but their Rookie coach looked shellshocked (O'Connell)
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they could have slowed the game down with the run game but gave up on that completely when they weren't even down that big. Just don't think Zimmer has it.
He is not there coach anymore, but their Rookie coach looked shellshocked (O'Connell)
Fuck, you are right, forgot about that. I guess that would explain why they looked completely out of their league.
Yea, the Eagles offense is loaded, they probably could have been fine not even trading for Brown
It was not just that they were playing zone all game (while some DB's seemed to think they were playing man which is a whole other story), it is that they were not getting anything resembling a pass rush. You can't give any NFL QB all day to throw. Eventually someone will get open.
I thought about this, too. I wonder if the gameplan was to drop back in zone, keep Hurts in the pocket, and force him to beat them with his arm.
It's not a bad idea, actually. The Bucs did that to him in the Wildcard game last year.
But you can't stay in Vanilla essentially the entire game. Some mixed coverages are still necessary. And Hurts was still able to get on his horse with 11 carries and 50+ yards. So, that was a miss, too.
I need to see more from Hurts to be convinced he's the solution. You give any QB in the NFL that much time - and same Vanilla approach - and damage will be done.
But Aikman made it quite clear, they were playing a bubble and just allowing WRs to sit in the open areas. A ton of pitch and catch. Very basic. The pass rush can only get there so fast esp against a good OL.
Now, Hurts did make some nice throws too. Again, consistency with him is the key.
But the biggest failure was the Vikings coaching staff as a whole - for as much credit as they got on opening day, that gave it all back on Monday night.
Incredibly annoying they were able to win a Super Bowl, rebuild it again into a contender while we’re on our fourth year 1 of a rebuild
Don't worry, the Eagles won't have enough offense to get past the Niners in the playoffs.
This is quite a jump from last year. Beat the Lions and the Vikings (lead by Kirk Cousins who is 0-59 on Primetime) and you're now the toast of the town.
Now the 49ers are going to save the day?