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Duggan on the Daniel Jones evaluation

Sean : 9/20/2022 11:46 am
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Jones has done enough to win the first two games, so that’s definitely progress. But there needs to be an understanding of the lens on Jones’ evaluation from Daboll and new general manager Joe Schoen.

This isn’t like Jones’ second or third season when he had time on his side. When Schoen decided not to exercise Jones’ fifth-year option for 2023, this became a make-or-break season for the 25-year-old. So the stakes are much higher.

Essentially, Jones needs to play well enough convince the new regime that he’s worthy of $31.5 million on the franchise tag in 2023. Otherwise, Schoen and Daboll will embark on a search for a quarterback to build around in the draft. They aligned themselves to take that path by declining Jones’ option.

Daboll and Schoen have seen first-hand the difference an elite quarterback makes. Daboll has five Super Bowl rings, thanks in large part to Tom Brady, from his time as a Patriots assistant, while Daboll and Schoen were part of the group in Buffalo that chose Josh Allen with the seventh pick in the 2018 draft. Allen is in the conversation for the best quarterback in the league, and the Bills are Super Bowl favorites.

It’s important to keep all of that in mind while evaluating Jones this season, because the people who will make the ultimate decision on the quarterback’s future certainly will.

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I feel there is  
ChrisRick : 9/22/2022 7:33 pm : link
Validity in the statement “The Giants ruined the back end of Manning’s career.”

Not so much with the thinking that Manning can play as long as he wants.

One can reasonably argue the first statement. The other is bad business.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/22/2022 7:33 pm : link
Sean, the apparent Mara love for DJ is so odd to me. Jones strikes me as a good dude, the sort of man I'd love my daughter to marry. But Mara is paying him to win games/be an elite QB & Jones hasn't done either to this point.

This isn't Eli. Eli won 2 Super Bowls here. I get the attachment. Hell, I'm guilty of it too. I'm glad Eli only played for us. But Jones is a completely different story. Other than looking like Eli & the Cutcliffe connection, I don't get Mara's love for this kid.
It makes as much sense as him talking about  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/22/2022 9:02 pm : link
Jerrell Jernigan.
 
christian : 9/22/2022 9:49 pm : link
Virtually no one gets a graceful exit. I get why Mara wanted it for Manning, but it didn’t make it less disruptive for rebuilding the team.

Ultimately Manning just got his teeth kicked in for a few more years, and then got benched. I’m assuming everyone agrees that sucked.

The owner simply just shouldn’t have favorite players. And if he does, he should have the good sense to keep it as much to himself as he can.
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Sean : 9/22/2022 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15828056 christian said:
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Virtually no one gets a graceful exit. I get why Mara wanted it for Manning, but it didn’t make it less disruptive for rebuilding the team.

Ultimately Manning just got his teeth kicked in for a few more years, and then got benched. I’m assuming everyone agrees that sucked.

The owner simply just shouldn’t have favorite players. And if he does, he should have the good sense to keep it as much to himself as he can.

Do the Giants get the benefit of branding with Eli if they cut bait in 2018 and he finishes his career with Jacksonville? I don’t know either way, but I’m sure holding onto Eli has been good business for the franchise and I don’t know if the prospect of going 7-9 with a Bridgewater/Darnold QB room would be enough to sway Mara after the fan backlash.

You make a good point though, Eli did get his teeth smashed in and another playoff run elsewhere could have done his playing legacy better.
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dancing blue bear : 9/22/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15827950 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Sean, the apparent Mara love for DJ is so odd to me. Jones strikes me as a good dude, the sort of man I'd love my daughter to marry. But Mara is paying him to win games/be an elite QB & Jones hasn't done either to this point.

Other than looking like Eli & the Cutcliffe connection, I don't get Mara's love for this kid.

Could be that it’s because it’s all in your mind…
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christian : 9/22/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15828066 Sean said:
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Do the Giants get the benefit of branding with Eli if they cut bait in 2018 and he finishes his career with Jacksonville? I don’t know either way, but I’m sure holding onto Eli has been good business for the franchise and I don’t know if the prospect of going 7-9 with a Bridgewater/Darnold QB room would be enough to sway Mara after the fan backlash.


I lived in San Francisco for a bunch of years, and everyone loved Montana. No one cared he played in KC. I think the single team thing is overrated in the long run.

Mara got himself in the mess with the benching charade and the aftermath. I agree not much was going to cleanup that mess in the short term, but there have been some good QBs drafted since. That would have helped.
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