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Opinions on trading Barkley

GiantMike92 : 9/20/2022 12:05 pm
If the Bills offered a #1 for him. They are a great team which would mean a low 1 but he might put them over the top. His value certainly is a lot higher after his start this year. As we know there is a relationship between the front offices. I know it is early in the season and we are all excited with our start but…
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Is Mara  
PaulN : 9/21/2022 10:57 am : link
Going to let Schoen trade Barkley? Is Mara going to let Schoen not resign Jones? If he interferes with them, then we, as a fanbase, are fucked. You have to let these guys go about their business. If you get an offer from Buffalo for their first round pick, you must do it. Is it impossible, nope, despite what others say. It's possible if they believe this player takes them over the top to win a Super Bowl. Would Barkley? I believe he would put them over the top.
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joeinpa : 9/21/2022 12:14 pm : link
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I still think Giants fans are living in denial.




Denial about what? This has been the worse team in the league for the past 5 years. Enjoying some moderate success is not denial.

Every year in the NFL is its own entity, I try to enjoy each one. You make a good case for trading Barkley, I understand all your pts

I just don’t get why that would be anyone s focus at this pt in the season. Trading deadline is still a few weeks away



Well, it could be because the title of the thread is "Opinions on trading Barkley." Wouldn't you expect the replies to focus on that?


Yea, that’s my point. You probably should have been able to figure that out by yourself, but happy to clarify for you
A 1st for Barkley? 100% yes.  
Kmed6000 : 9/21/2022 12:18 pm : link
Its funny, before the season and large majority of Giants fans wanted Barkley released or traded for a late round pick. It made no sense for this reason. You let him build his value.

I would trade Barkley for a 1st or 2nd rounder right now. He looks great, but he's proven to be injury prone and its just not a position that a rebuilding team should be spending crazy money on.

All that being said, I highly doubt anyone is giving the Giants a 1st rounder for Barkley.
RE: RE: This is frustrating  
Maryland Blows : 9/21/2022 12:38 pm : link
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2-0 for the first time in years, a favorable schedule, and our defense is absolutely balling without its 2 best edge rushers.


And yet here we are making threads about trading the guy that the offense literally runs through.

It seems like there’s a large contingent of giants fans who have let the draft become their favorite part of the season, rather than the actual game of football itself.



If the Giants aren't going to win the Super Bowl this year, which they aren't, conversations about how to build a Super Bowl contender should be all that really matter.

It's great that the Giants are 2-0. It's also not relevant to any objective long term evaluation of the franchise.

Barkley is a very good player. He's not a unicorn. If they could get a first round pick for him, they should say yes and hang up the phone before the person on the other end changes their mind. That first round pick, even if it's #32 overall, could get you a cost-controlled player for the next 4-5 years.

That player might even be a RB. The Broncos got Javonte Williams at #35 in 2021. In 2020 you could have taken any of the following at #32: CEH, D'Andre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, AJ Dillon, Antonio Gibson.

I'm sure I don't have to remind anyone that Nick Chubb was taken #35 overall in 2018, 33 picks after Barkley. All he's done is average 5.3 yards to carry and score 39 TDs in 60 games.


And Chubb is as dumb as a box of rocks. He goes down on the 1 instead of scoring his team is 2-0. Not the 1st time he has done something like this.

No you do not trade Barkley.
Is this seriously a debate ?  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/21/2022 1:36 pm : link
Extending an injury prone Rb makes zero sense. If they were offered a first and turned it down my fear that Mara’s meddling days aren’t behind us would prove to be true
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Jimmy Googs : 9/21/2022 1:54 pm : link
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2-0 for the first time in years, a favorable schedule, and our defense is absolutely balling without its 2 best edge rushers.


And yet here we are making threads about trading the guy that the offense literally runs through.

It seems like there’s a large contingent of giants fans who have let the draft become their favorite part of the season, rather than the actual game of football itself.



If the Giants aren't going to win the Super Bowl this year, which they aren't, conversations about how to build a Super Bowl contender should be all that really matter.

It's great that the Giants are 2-0. It's also not relevant to any objective long term evaluation of the franchise.

Barkley is a very good player. He's not a unicorn. If they could get a first round pick for him, they should say yes and hang up the phone before the person on the other end changes their mind. That first round pick, even if it's #32 overall, could get you a cost-controlled player for the next 4-5 years.

That player might even be a RB. The Broncos got Javonte Williams at #35 in 2021. In 2020 you could have taken any of the following at #32: CEH, D'Andre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, AJ Dillon, Antonio Gibson.

I'm sure I don't have to remind anyone that Nick Chubb was taken #35 overall in 2018, 33 picks after Barkley. All he's done is average 5.3 yards to carry and score 39 TDs in 60 games.



And Chubb is as dumb as a box of rocks. He goes down on the 1 instead of scoring his team is 2-0. Not the 1st time he has done something like this.

No you do not trade Barkley.


Maryland Blows doing his normal impersonation of a box of rocks on the site.

Not trading Barkley, given a good opportunity, is actually dumb.

And Chubb did the right thing as he is RB1 on my fantasy team...far more imprortant than a silly win for Cleveland...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Long story  
Klaatu : 9/21/2022 2:08 pm : link
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I still think Giants fans are living in denial.




Denial about what? This has been the worse team in the league for the past 5 years. Enjoying some moderate success is not denial.

Every year in the NFL is its own entity, I try to enjoy each one. You make a good case for trading Barkley, I understand all your pts

I just don’t get why that would be anyone s focus at this pt in the season. Trading deadline is still a few weeks away



Well, it could be because the title of the thread is "Opinions on trading Barkley." Wouldn't you expect the replies to focus on that?



Yea, that’s my point. You probably should have been able to figure that out by yourself, but happy to clarify for you


Your point (besides the one on top of your head) is what it always is, regardless of the topic. You don't want to hear anything negative about any Giants player.

A question was asked in the OP. Replies were answers to that question. You probably should have been able to figure that out - it really wasn't much of a mystery - but obviously you preferred to ignore that in favor of mewling about why the question was asked in the first place.
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joeinpa : 9/21/2022 10:13 pm : link
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I still think Giants fans are living in denial.




Denial about what? This has been the worse team in the league for the past 5 years. Enjoying some moderate success is not denial.

Every year in the NFL is its own entity, I try to enjoy each one. You make a good case for trading Barkley, I understand all your pts

I just don’t get why that would be anyone s focus at this pt in the season. Trading deadline is still a few weeks away



Well, it could be because the title of the thread is "Opinions on trading Barkley." Wouldn't you expect the replies to focus on that?



Yea, that’s my point. You probably should have been able to figure that out by yourself, but happy to clarify for you



Your point (besides the one on top of your head) is what it always is, regardless of the topic. You don't want to hear anything negative about any Giants player.

A question was asked in the OP. Replies were answers to that question. You probably should have been able to figure that out - it really wasn't much of a mystery - but obviously you preferred to ignore that in favor of mewling about why the question was asked in the first place.



Besides the one on top of my head? How about or are you, 15?
RE: i'm all for trading him if we can get a decent pick  
bradshaw44 : 9/22/2022 12:39 am : link
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but no one is trading a #1 for a RB that's heading into FA. If he plays well I can see a 2nd but even that I don't think is realistic. So now we are at a 3rd and while that is helpful to have, we don't really know what the Schoen/Daboll value just yet.

I'm in wait and see mode, depends on a number of factors including whether or not we are in the playoff hunt.


A team like the bills that is built to win right this minute is precisely the type of team to give up a 1st. They are stacked. You add the best RB prospect of the last 10 years and you see that he still has it, a team like the bills makes a move. The end goal is to win it all. The goal of Mcdermit is to win the super bowl. If that trade set them back because SB gets injured then that’s on them not us.

Problem is, the bills don’t look at him as a missing link. But if hit
RE: RE: i'm all for trading him if we can get a decent pick  
bradshaw44 : 9/22/2022 12:49 am : link
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but no one is trading a #1 for a RB that's heading into FA. If he plays well I can see a 2nd but even that I don't think is realistic. So now we are at a 3rd and while that is helpful to have, we don't really know what the Schoen/Daboll value just yet.

I'm in wait and see mode, depends on a number of factors including whether or not we are in the playoff hunt.



A team like the bills that is built to win right this minute is precisely the type of team to give up a 1st. They are stacked. You add the best RB prospect of the last 10 years and you see that he still has it, a team like the bills makes a move. The end goal is to win it all. The goal of Mcdermit is to win the super bowl. If that trade set them back because SB gets injured then that’s on them not us.

Problem is, the bills don’t look at him as a missing link. But if hit


Problem is, IF the bills don’t look at him as the missing link, they won’t make any offer. But if the Rams do then we can take their first. Problem there is they are probably tapped out after doing this type of move every year since McVeigh arrived at their door.
If somebody is willing to  
section125 : 9/22/2022 6:22 am : link
give up a 1st or 2nd for him, I am in. (even a 3rd)

I am now starting to question were Dabs and Schoen are at with Barkley. Dabs seems to love him. I was certain he was gone, either via trade or FA. But I think there is a smallish chance Dabs may want to keep him.
They should like him, a lot. Not much else on the offense right now.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2022 9:17 am : link
But if that plays into their calculus of future value then they are making a mistake to hold onto him if a reasonable offer comes calling…
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