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FranknWeezer : 9/21/2022 3:08 pm
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Kenny Golladay was asked if he would ask for a change of scenery:

“We’re going to see how it goes. I came here to play.”
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Kenny Golladay on playing 2 snaps vs. Panthers. Accepted the coach’s decision but …

“I don’t agree with it. … I should be playing regardless,” he said. “That’s a fact.”

More Golladay:

“I didn’t like the decision whatsoever.”

“Little confusing.”

“I came here to play.”

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Hey Kenny  
johnnyb : 9/21/2022 3:09 pm : link
act like you care and then maybe you can play!
"I came here to play"  
Chris684 : 9/21/2022 3:10 pm : link
Oh really Kenny?

Start playing or GTFO.
"I came here to play"  
giantBCP : 9/21/2022 3:12 pm : link
"I have arthritis in my hips and knees. That's a fact"
If he’s got anything left  
Metnut : 9/21/2022 3:14 pm : link
now is the time to show it.
The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
NoGainDayne : 9/21/2022 3:15 pm : link
and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.
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JohnG in Albany : 9/21/2022 3:15 pm : link
In comment 15826575 Chris684 said:
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Oh really Kenny?

Start playing or GTFO.


Yeah, does he realize that in the NFL, "play" also requires "effort"?

The practice said....he was running crisp routes in practice  
George from PA : 9/21/2022 3:17 pm : link
Which is already an improvement.

Let's hope this pissed him off and motivates him.
Hello Golldaday  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2022 3:17 pm : link
Playing time under this regime is earned, not given.
RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/21/2022 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:
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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.


Is DJ one of the highest paid players at his position? Is it that hard to understand there are different circumstances at play here?
With his contract what it is  
j_rud : 9/21/2022 3:18 pm : link
this dude is gonna get his ass sent home like Terrell Owens.
I mean....  
dschwarz in westchester : 9/21/2022 3:20 pm : link
.... what's he supposed to say?

I'm thrilled I got benched? I'm sure that David Sills is a much better player than I am?

Honestly I don't get why people are mad at him. He got offered an ocean of money by Gettleman and he quite correctly took it.

Should he have refused on moral ground? Seems kind of unrealistic.
"I came here to play"  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2022 3:20 pm : link
........looks disinterested running routes.
RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2022 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:
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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.


Classic BJ hater at all costs. How about stick to Galloday? The thread topic.
What’s puzzling about this?  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2022 3:21 pm : link
Jones earned his playing time here, Golladay hasn’t. Where’s the confusion?
Like to seen him ask him  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2022 3:21 pm : link
about the separation issues to get Galloway's perspective on that.
.  
David Dooley : 9/21/2022 3:22 pm : link
Sills is twice the player Golladay is. Time to make David Sills the official #1 receiver.
No problem with what he said  
GiantGrit : 9/21/2022 3:23 pm : link
He wants to be out there. Is he physically cooked? Are the Giants basically pushing him towards a mutual agreement?

Its a bizarre situation to me.
RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Ron Johnson : 9/21/2022 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:
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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.



Regardless of what anyone here says, Goladay hasn't played well enough to get playing time over James and Sills.
Here's the video clip of the interview  
FranknWeezer : 9/21/2022 3:24 pm : link
FYI
Golladay interviewed today - ( New Window )
RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/21/2022 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:
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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.


Throws to James Ritchie and Bellinger just fine.
Jones at least puts in the effort M-S to get better  
George from PA : 9/21/2022 3:26 pm : link
Golladay looks like he was mailing it in.

Nothing about this offense is excelling....but one at least...gives those that put the effort in to get better.

Neal is a perfect example....his play on the field can be better....but at least we respect the extra time he puts in...to get better and I have no doubt he will.

To add, Golladay....Unfortunately sign a massive deal(good for him)....but as fans....we measure cap dollars to football assets....and Golladay seems to have sold the Giants a bill of goods.

That is on the Giants...but we lost some key players due to cap.

Golladay can make it all better by playing like an alfa WR.
2nd video clip  
FranknWeezer : 9/21/2022 3:27 pm : link
see link
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RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
bw in dc : 9/21/2022 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:
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Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.



Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere.

Regardless, this is such a bad fit for KG and NYG. Need to find a trading partner.
Lol I specifically said it wasn't a positive comment on Golladay  
NoGainDayne : 9/21/2022 3:31 pm : link
and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.

How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.

And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.
And an article reiterating Daboll's stance on who'll get playing time  
FranknWeezer : 9/21/2022 3:31 pm : link
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“Regardless of where you’re drafted, how you got here, how much money you make, we believe in everybody goes out there and competes, and we play the guys that earn the right to play that week,” Daboll said on Monday. “Whether it’s the highest-paid player, the lowest-paid player, the highest draft pick, an undrafted free agent – we’re going to go out there and let the guys compete it out.”

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RE: Lol I specifically said it wasn't a positive comment on Golladay  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/21/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15826632 NoGainDayne said:
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and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.

How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.

And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.


Yeah like Glennon and Fromm were lighting it up throwing to him with their fearless throwing.
who were the big jump ball WR's  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2022 3:34 pm : link
in Buffalo and KC? Can't name any worth talking about. Its probably very likely that he just doesn't fit this offense at all, coupled with a declining skillset. If the reports of him not even running out deep thrown ball are true then you can add that to the situation as well.
Bad spot…  
trueblueinpw : 9/21/2022 3:34 pm : link
Golladay and the Giants are in a tough spot. The Giants can’t cut him and the coaches don’t want to play him for whatever reason. Why would Kenny G be okay with riding the pine? And why would DaBALLS want to play him? Shitty situation. Thanks Dave. (And at least Kenny G is clocking millions per game to watch from the sidelines).
and Jones is being fairly assesed  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2022 3:35 pm : link
Daboll and Kafka are doing that right now like they are with KG, Toney etc. Those are the opinions that matter, not BBI posters who are rooting for the QB to succeed.
1. How can he ask for a change of scenery? Who'd trade for him  
Blue21 : 9/21/2022 3:36 pm : link
At his salary when he 's apparently lost a step otr two. And 2. How the hell does this get turned into a DJ thread.
RE: RE: Lol I specifically said it wasn't a positive comment on Golladay  
NoGainDayne : 9/21/2022 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15826639 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 15826632 NoGainDayne said:


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and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.

How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.

And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.



Yeah like Glennon and Fromm were lighting it up throwing to him with their fearless throwing.


I thought we all pretty much agreed these guys were garbage, this is a real reach
RE: No problem with what he said  
k2tampa : 9/21/2022 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15826611 GiantGrit said:
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He wants to be out there. Is he physically cooked? Are the Giants basically pushing him towards a mutual agreement?

Its a bizarre situation to me.


No problem with him wanting to play. The problem is when he says he 'should' be playing. Smacks of entitlement. Has anyone read a single sentence about him putting in extra work with Jones?
RE: RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
JohnG in Albany : 9/21/2022 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15826624 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:


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Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.





Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere.

Regardless, this is such a bad fit for KG and NYG. Need to find a trading partner.



But how does the downgrade in qb explain him often quitting on routes, alligator arms, etc.?

There's  
AcidTest : 9/21/2022 3:39 pm : link
no trading partner for KG. We're stuck with him and he with us. It just seems like he got old in a hurry, which is actually quite common in the NFL. But he can't separate anymore apparently. He's been passed by Sills, the ultimate journeyman.

We really have next to nothing at WR.

Golladay: $72M and can't separate.
Slayton: Had to take a pay cut from $2.5M to stay on the team, and presumably did so because it was still more than he could get elsewhere.
Robinson: Injured and unproven rookie.
KT. Electrifying but injury prone. JonC said Robinson was drafted to send KT a "message." Have to hope he develops.
Sills: JAG.
Shepard. Coming off an achilles with a history of concussions.
James. The best WR on team, but should be in a complimentary, not a #1 role.
RE: RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Thegratefulhead : 9/21/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15826596 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:


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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.



Is DJ one of the highest paid players at his position? Is it that hard to understand there are different circumstances at play here?
Yeah, the money is different.

Golloday has a better case than Jones. He excelled in college and the NFL. Jones has never produced anywhere.

The money is different, so is something else.
RE: RE: RE: Lol I specifically said it wasn't a positive comment on Golladay  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/21/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15826648 NoGainDayne said:
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In comment 15826639 Spiciest Memelord said:


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In comment 15826632 NoGainDayne said:


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and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.

How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.

And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.



Yeah like Glennon and Fromm were lighting it up throwing to him with their fearless throwing.



I thought we all pretty much agreed these guys were garbage, this is a real reach


Is James garbage? He seems perfectly capable of getting open and catching passes unlike Golladay.
RE: RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2022 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15826624 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:


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Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.





Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere.

Regardless, this is such a bad fit for KG and NYG. Need to find a trading partner.


I guess you are talking about the season that Stafford missed half of. That was Galloday's best season. His other one was ok. That Stafford is a great "tool guy". Even throws people open from the sideline. 3 win team with two backup QB's playing. I'm sure defenses were amped up trying to stop him.
RE: RE: RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2022 3:43 pm : link
In comment 15826663 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 15826596 Thunderstruck27 said:


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In comment 15826586 NoGainDayne said:


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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.

Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.

Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.

Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.



Is DJ one of the highest paid players at his position? Is it that hard to understand there are different circumstances at play here?

Yeah, the money is different.

Golloday has a better case than Jones. He excelled in college and the NFL. Jones has never produced anywhere.

The money is different, so is something else.


The other thing that's different is other WR's are getting open, even if just a little. I'm sure our offense would be better with a better QB but for the time being Jones is the best we have and he should be throwing to guys that actually give a shit and can do their jobs.

If that ends up being KG, great. If not you won't see him play much.
Easily forgotten but KG actually got off to a decent start last year  
shyster : 9/21/2022 3:51 pm : link
First four games: 16 catches on 27 targets at 16.5 yds per catch.

Not setting world on fire but very respectable.

Then KG got hurt, missed three games, came back for three quiet games before Jones got hurt.

If the issue now were actually a matter of Jones not wanting to throw to KG, how to explain those 27 targets in the first four games of 2021?

The most plausible explanation is that KG is another year slower and further down the hill.

He's three years removed from the year that got him the big contract. A lot of guys are NFL old at 28.
Forget about him catching contested balls  
giantBCP : 9/21/2022 3:53 pm : link
because the ball skills that he's exhibited here have been non existent.
shyster  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2022 3:54 pm : link
I think that and simply a new offense with new coaches that see things different and want to run the offense a certain way. Add in whatever is happening or not happening in practice and I think its clear that Daboll is setting a precedence of accountability and you are either on board or not playing.
shyster  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2022 3:55 pm : link
That is about what his average would be in his two better seasons he had adding a half catch. He was a low catch WR with a high average.
Would anyone be shocked  
nygiants16 : 9/21/2022 3:58 pm : link
if he wasnt in uniform for monday night?
RE: RE: RE: The same people that talk about DJ as the victim  
bw in dc : 9/21/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15826674 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I guess you are talking about the season that Stafford missed half of. That was Galloday's best season. His other one was ok. That Stafford is a great "tool guy". Even throws people open from the sideline. 3 win team with two backup QB's playing. I'm sure defenses were amped up trying to stop him.


KG caught 11 TDs that season. Seven were from Stafford.

He had five 100+ yard games that year. Four of those with Stafford.

And over half his catches that year came from Stafford passes.
Maybe the beat writers could do their jobs  
Snablats : 9/21/2022 4:00 pm : link
and find out what is going on between KG and the coaching staff


Giants need a Diggs type guy  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2022 4:01 pm : link
His last game 12 catches 148 yards. Allen's game (and BD's) took off when he was added. Before Diggs Buffalo averaged 330 yards and 19 points. First year with him 399 yards and 31 points.

Right now they have nobody anywhere close in talent imv.
RE: Lol I specifically said it wasn't a positive comment on Golladay  
Now Mike in MD : 9/21/2022 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15826632 NoGainDayne said:
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and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.

How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.

And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.


The clear difference is that Golladay's poor play seems to be from lack of effort or caring. While DJ has his warts, those do not include putting in adquate effort to try to improve. I've never played for a coach at any level who was going to reward a player half assing it.
You know what -- I am fine with him not being happy  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/21/2022 4:06 pm : link
we're not happy with what have been his "contributions" to the team so far.

Hey Kenny: Give us all something to be happy about and go out there, make an effort, bust your ass and make some great plays. Nothing else matters or needs to be discussed
If you put on KG highlights  
The Dude : 9/21/2022 4:06 pm : link
from his best DET years..... That guy doesn't exist anymore. He looks like he's running with cinderblocks on his feet now. He looks like he put on weight and has no explosion in any direction.

I honestly loved the player at his best in Detroit. His hips and knees seem to be holding him back now. He absolutely FLEECED the prior admin. How they didn't see this and also bid against themselves...we'll never no.
know*  
The Dude : 9/21/2022 4:07 pm : link
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