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| Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan · 8m Kenny Golladay was asked if he would ask for a change of scenery: “We’re going to see how it goes. I came here to play.” Quote Tweet Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan · 15m Kenny Golladay on playing 2 snaps vs. Panthers. Accepted the coach’s decision but … “I don’t agree with it. … I should be playing regardless,” he said. “That’s a fact.” More Golladay: “I didn’t like the decision whatsoever.” “Little confusing.” “I came here to play.” |
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I guess you are talking about the season that Stafford missed half of. That was Galloday's best season. His other one was ok. That Stafford is a great "tool guy". Even throws people open from the sideline. 3 win team with two backup QB's playing. I'm sure defenses were amped up trying to stop him.
KG caught 11 TDs that season. Seven were from Stafford.
He had five 100+ yard games that year. Four of those with Stafford.
And over half his catches that year came from Stafford passes.
I broke down the season. He had three games with over 100 yards with back ups. A 160 yard game against Chicago with Stafford. Look at game by game. He disappeared in many with all three QB's. Essentially a 60-65 catch WR with a high average. Solid two not a upper tier 1.
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Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.
Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere.
Regardless, this is such a bad fit for KG and NYG. Need to find a trading partner.
Its not a fair point. You are literally using 2019 (and probably 2018) as your evidence. Golladay has done nothing o note in 3 years. He has been here 1 year and change...
How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.
And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.
I feel your point is deeper and more "social' than you veiled attempt at fair comparison. Golladay hasn't done shot in a LONG time!
KG caught 11 TDs that season. Seven were from Stafford.
He had five 100+ yard games that year. Four of those with Stafford.
And over half his catches that year came from Stafford passes.
I broke down the season. He had three games with over 100 yards with back ups. A 160 yard game against Chicago with Stafford. Look at game by game. He disappeared in many with all three QB's. Essentially a 60-65 catch WR with a high average. Solid two not a upper tier 1.
I did go game by game. Stafford went out after the November 3rd game. He played in all eight games from the opener thru the Nov 3rd game.
Look at KG's stats from 9/8 to 11/3. Those were with Stafford and he was more productive.
I don't disagree that KG was never a true WR1.
Welcome to being a HC in the NFL.
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KG caught 11 TDs that season. Seven were from Stafford.
He had five 100+ yard games that year. Four of those with Stafford.
And over half his catches that year came from Stafford passes.
I broke down the season. He had three games with over 100 yards with back ups. A 160 yard game against Chicago with Stafford. Look at game by game. He disappeared in many with all three QB's. Essentially a 60-65 catch WR with a high average. Solid two not a upper tier 1.
I did go game by game. Stafford went out after the November 3rd game. He played in all eight games from the opener thru the Nov 3rd game.
Look at KG's stats from 9/8 to 11/3. Those were with Stafford and he was more productive.
I don't disagree that KG was never a true WR1.
Why bring Jones into this? If you don't think he is a elite one maybe it's more on him or those who wanted him here at his cost. That is a fair rationale. Not having MS (who I like) is not a big part of the equation here especially with most likely physical issues KG has.
Wow Jordan what gave away he was not happy? You did not figure it out on Sunday like the rest of us when we heard he had an empty locker.
Keep speaking, Kenny!!
Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.
Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.
Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.
I have questioned your posts your opinions and now I am questioning your IQ. He has done NOTHING since he has been here. Some of DJ's problems is because of his lack of effort. DJ at least gives effort when he is on the field which is more than I can say for Galladay your pathetic post.
I did go game by game. Stafford went out after the November 3rd game. He played in all eight games from the opener thru the Nov 3rd game.
Look at KG's stats from 9/8 to 11/3. Those were with Stafford and he was more productive.
I don't disagree that KG was never a true WR1.
Why bring Jones into this? If you don't think he is a elite one maybe it's more on him or those who wanted him here at his cost. That is a fair rationale. Not having MS (who I like) is not a big part of the equation here especially with most likely physical issues KG has.
Where did I bring Jones into this?
Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere.
Regardless, this is such a bad fit for KG and NYG. Need to find a trading partner.
Its not a fair point. You are literally using 2019 (and probably 2018) as your evidence. Golladay has done nothing o note in 3 years. He has been here 1 year and change...
Evidence for what? I'm saying KG played with Stafford and he put up his best numbers with Stafford, specifically 2019. And I agree KG hasn't really done anything of note beyond 2019.
So, I'm not sure what lemon juice you are squirting on your screen to find some hidden meaning...
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Kenny Golladay has always been candid and nothing he said today was disrespectful. He basically said what you’d expect a disgruntled player to feel. The one thing that caught my ear was, “even people on the team were kind of like, ‘What’s going on?’”
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I did go game by game. Stafford went out after the November 3rd game. He played in all eight games from the opener thru the Nov 3rd game.
Look at KG's stats from 9/8 to 11/3. Those were with Stafford and he was more productive.
I don't disagree that KG was never a true WR1.
Why bring Jones into this? If you don't think he is a elite one maybe it's more on him or those who wanted him here at his cost. That is a fair rationale. Not having MS (who I like) is not a big part of the equation here especially with most likely physical issues KG has.
Where did I bring Jones into this?
"Fair point. In Detroit, and this was mentioned by a few of us when we signed KG, Stafford could throw KG open because he is fearless with his confidence that he can put the ball anywhere."
Come on.
Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.
Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.
Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.
KG can’t get open. He does not separate no matter how much he may work in practice. I don’t care who he is or what is contract looks like. A WR who cannot get pork does not belong in the field. At that point we can just put another OL out there to block.
I want someone to show me highlights of KG getting open consistently in a giants uniform against man coverage.
Connor Hughes video about the Golladay interviews today - ( New Window )
Leonard Williams restructured.
I bet Golladay said kiss my ass and now he is making moves to get traded-or if they can drive him insane enough he does something to void his contract(walks out or no-shows)
He also would not be the first athlete to be done while thinking he has plenty left
Where does it lie
What I can’t figure out is that last year 1st 4 games with Jones healthy he avg 6.5 targets and 4.5 catches and 70 ypg. That went away with Jones after Dallas injury as well as the other QB. His best after was 3/53
Keep speaking, Kenny!!
I like the way you think.
Keep it up, Kenny! They're hosing you! You deserve better!
It should be obvious to the beat reporters that Daboll plays the WRs who deserve to play based on what they do in practice.
Julian Love in an interview yesterday on the fan suggested that some guys are better game day players than practice players, when asked about Golladay
Plaxico was one of those guys. Golladay has some pelts on his belt, this team is in need of playmakers at receiver, get him involved
I m glad he s unhappy, It s be more concerning if he wasn t.
Go back and watch videos of him in Detroit. Players just don't fall off like he did unless there is a lingering health issue. He isn't the same player. It is that simple. He doesn't have the same burst, acceleration, speed, etc. His routes were aggressive in Detroit. Now it looks like he is in quicksand.
It feels good to finally feel good to trust people who I think know much more than I do and are thus better able to make decisions. Most, if not all of us here, don’t really have all the inside facts and certainly don’t have first hand knowledge. Much of what we have comes from some media guy telling us what he thinks or believes.
So, if someone thinks poor Kenny is being picked or Kenny is just a slacker ….not really relevant to me. What do the “terrific trio” think? Ahhhhh, that is what I’ll listen to?
Not trying to be mean spirited or downplay anyone’s opinion- nothing wrong with sharing such, especially on a public message board.
Jeez Louise Gettleman signed free agents like a middle schooler playing fantasy football. "Hey, I've heard that name before, let's sign him!"
Golladay was running around with a fork in his back last year; right now, he's carrying around the whole kitchen silverware drawer.
This has happened to better players like Cruz and Nicks, who thought they could still play after major injuries. I don't think KG can make those contested catches or good routes anymore. The coaches can see it, though.
Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.
Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.
Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.
Yeah we get it. It's all Daniel Jones all the time. There is no other subject worth discussing.
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Kenny Golladay has always been candid and nothing he said today was disrespectful. He basically said what you’d expect a disgruntled player to feel. The one thing that caught my ear was, “even people on the team were kind of like, ‘What’s going on?’”
This doesn’t bother me at all. We all want to win the next game, but this season is also about changing the old vibe and establishing some new standards. One of which is guys who work hard in practice will earn PT
And we’re not talking about playing a scrub over Randy Moss here. Sills offers pretty much the same or better as Golladay at this point
I’d bet this is at least in part related to learning the offense. There was plenty of chatter about how Daboll and Kafka’s scheme gave WRs more autonomy, but required both pre and post snap reads and being on the same page with the QB
It’s no stretch to question whether Golladay is putting the time in to get on the same page as Jones, and mis-reading coverages is showing up on practice and game film. Conversely, Sills has by all accounts put a lot of time in with Jones to be in synch
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and basically call his conditions essentially untenable to throw.
Can also seemingly completely blame KG. A man that has had WAY more proven success in the NFL. It's puzzling.
Especially the fact that DJ seems to have an aversion to throwing contested balls, which is really a part of KG's game, perhaps there is something to his frustration.
Not saying I like him just that I feel like I see the same people ready to tar and feather this guy and falling over themselves to make excuses for DJ.
Is DJ one of the highest paid players at his position? Is it that hard to understand there are different circumstances at play here?
Yeah, the money is different.
Golloday has a better case than Jones. He excelled in college and the NFL. Jones has never produced anywhere.
The money is different, so is something else.
Get this guy off the fucking roster, as soon as possible.
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and some of you are actually proving the point. You want to string this guy up and he's played poorly but so has DJ yet everyone makes excuse after excuse for him.
How exactly are conditions supposedly untenable for a QB but KG's poor play is entirely on him? It's a point on hypocrisy.
And yeah, I don't hate Jones, I just want him fairly assessed, something many fail to do.
Yeah like Glennon and Fromm were lighting it up throwing to him with their fearless throwing.
Just curious what was your old handle?
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and find out what is going on between KG and the coaching staff
There is some mystery there to you? I don't understand. Why are Brian Dabbol's and Kenny Golladay's comments not to be taken at face value? If they are, why is there a mystery? I don't see what's hard to understand.
Nothing a coach or player says in this type of issue is to be taken at face value. Daboll says KG is working hard and being professional. If that is true then why isnt he playing? Clearly there is more to the story
Feels like its turning to a staring contest between both sides.
One of two things will happen. He’ll either snap out of it and start producing or somehow he’ll be gone. I’m fine with either option.
Why? Who gives a shit what he says? He can pout all he wants. The team is in control of (t)his situation.
When a coach says "playing time has to be earned" and you see high paid guys sitting on the bench - everybody knows he must be dogging it in practice and possibly showing up, not knowing the playbook.
Sit there Kenny and enjoy the view from the bench during your last year with the Giants.
Didn't some Detroit fans say "Good luck with that guy"?
And I don't get why when we are talking about Golladay somehow DJ gets dragged into it.
Golladay is not producing on the field for whatever reason, it doesn't matter. We can't stop someone who isn't productive just because they make big bucks.
Signing Golladay has been a disaster. Money wasted that could have bought us two or three quality free agents starters. Think how much better we would be.
Golladay had head and health issues in Detroit and we still signed him. Just terrible signing.
Let's get real.