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NFT: Woj: Boston Celtics HC Ime Udoka faces possible suspension

Anakim : 9/21/2022 10:46 pm
Adrian Wojnarowski
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ESPN Sources: Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is facing possible disciplinary action – including a significant suspension – for an unspecified violation of organizational guidelines. Discussions are ongoing within the Celtics on a final determination.
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Udoka led the Celtics to the Eastern Conference championship and a berth in the NBA Finals against the Golden State Warriors in his first season as a head coach last year.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/21/2022 11:11 pm : link
Has to be an employee relationship type thing
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/22/2022 6:34 am : link
Had a consensual relationship with a female member of the team's staff. Not sure how that warrants a suspension though. I'm assuming there's a morality clause in his contract?
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robbieballs2003 : 9/22/2022 6:47 am : link
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BillT : 9/22/2022 7:22 am : link
In comment 15827112 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Had a consensual relationship with a female member of the team's staff. Not sure how that warrants a suspension though. I'm assuming there's a morality clause in his contract?

Possibly a disclosure requirement?
Why the F should  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 7:50 am : link
he or anyone be suspended or disciplined in any way other than privately for a consensual relationship among adults?

this is the world some of you want to live in?

unless there are details that have not been shared this seems stupid.
I guess  
five5 : 9/22/2022 7:55 am : link
the Celtics r the moral police. The only person he should be answering to is his wife.
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mfsd : 9/22/2022 8:11 am : link
In comment 15827114 robbieballs2003 said:
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Haha you win!
World  
Eli owns all : 9/22/2022 8:12 am : link
Is going to hell. Your employer can tell you who you can and can’t date?
Lots of employers specifically prohibit workplace relationships  
Heisenberg : 9/22/2022 8:15 am : link
but you'd have to think there's a lot more to this story
Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 8:23 am : link
Executive Gersson Rosas was fired by Minnesota for a similar story.
RE: Why the F should  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2022 8:25 am : link
In comment 15827125 pjcas18 said:
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he or anyone be suspended or disciplined in any way other than privately for a consensual relationship among adults?

this is the world some of you want to live in?

unless there are details that have not been shared this seems stupid.


Aren't rules, rules? If its a personal conduct policy issue, and he broke it, then that's pretty much that. I never agreed with weed being banned in football but it was and the players getting caught had no one to blame but themselves.

The world I want to live in is people actually taking responsibility for their actions.
RE: World  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2022 8:26 am : link
In comment 15827142 Eli owns all said:
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Is going to hell. Your employer can tell you who you can and can’t date?


Its actually very common. And they aren't telling you who you can date, they are telling you you can't date another employee.
RE: RE: Why the F should  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 8:31 am : link
In comment 15827151 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15827125 pjcas18 said:


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he or anyone be suspended or disciplined in any way other than privately for a consensual relationship among adults?

this is the world some of you want to live in?

unless there are details that have not been shared this seems stupid.



Aren't rules, rules? If its a personal conduct policy issue, and he broke it, then that's pretty much that. I never agreed with weed being banned in football but it was and the players getting caught had no one to blame but themselves.

The world I want to live in is people actually taking responsibility for their actions.


Like I said, you discipline them privately.

Not sure how that would work in sports  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2022 8:48 am : link
if they are suspending him, how do they explain he's suspended? IMO this kinda just goes with the territory of certain jobs.
A lot of big companies  
nygiants16 : 9/22/2022 8:49 am : link
make you disclose your relationship to HR if you have a relationship with someone at work..

There is probably more to it for them to possibly suspend him..
Do you guys work in orgasmville?  
Jerry in_DC : 9/22/2022 8:54 am : link
You can't have relations down the chain of command in offices anymore. Udoka is one of the highest ranked people in the organization. In that position you absolutely get in trouble for something like this.
RE: Do you guys work in orgasmville?  
BrettNYG10 : 9/22/2022 9:12 am : link
In comment 15827175 Jerry in_DC said:
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You can't have relations down the chain of command in offices anymore. Udoka is one of the highest ranked people in the organization. In that position you absolutely get in trouble for something like this.


I have a feeling most BBI'ers aren't high up on the chain of command...
RE: Do you guys work in orgasmville?  
Spirit of '86 : 9/22/2022 9:13 am : link
In comment 15827175 Jerry in_DC said:
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You can't have relations down the chain of command in offices anymore. Udoka is one of the highest ranked people in the organization. In that position you absolutely get in trouble for something like this.


The Celtics, just like many/most organizations are protecting themselves against sexual harassment lawsuits here. Their strong action shows to juries of the future that they take their policies seriously.
RE: Do you guys work in orgasmville?  
Stu11 : 9/22/2022 9:32 am : link
In comment 15827175 Jerry in_DC said:
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You can't have relations down the chain of command in offices anymore. Udoka is one of the highest ranked people in the organization. In that position you absolutely get in trouble for something like this.

This x100. We have no facts here. What if she was a subordinate like the team secretary? You think that's appropriate? What if it happened on team premises? Work place relationships are at the very least a bad idea, and often could have legal and civil liability issues. I mean I'm 54, but I love this place. Sometimes it's like Mad Men on steroids...
RE: World  
TyreeHelmet : 9/22/2022 9:41 am : link
In comment 15827142 Eli owns all said:
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Is going to hell. Your employer can tell you who you can and can’t date?


Yes they certainly can. Have you been under a rock?
Who cheats on Nia Long?  
DCOrange : 9/22/2022 9:56 am : link
She's adorable.
RE: RE: Why the F should  
DCGMan : 9/22/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15827151 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15827125 pjcas18 said:


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he or anyone be suspended or disciplined in any way other than privately for a consensual relationship among adults?


this is the world some of you want to live in?

unless there are details that have not been shared this seems stupid.



Aren't rules, rules? If its a personal conduct policy issue, and he broke it, then that's pretty much that. I never agreed with weed being banned in football but it was and the players getting caught had no one to blame but themselves.

The world I want to live in is people actually taking responsibility for their actions.


Pjcas, I understand where you’re coming from at a high level, but companies these days are trying to avoid any possibility of legal or negative PR fallout from employee relationships.

several NBA franchises have dealt with lawsuits and the PR fallout over the past decade regarding some type of sexual allegation. The risks to these companies are too great.

Personally, I think avoiding dating within your company is a smart decision. I did that in my 20s but now that I’m older there is no way I would date a colleague now with the risks to my career no matter how low the odds might be.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 10:15 am : link
like he'll be suspended for the entirety of the upcoming season.
This getting more attention than the Bret Farve thing is  
Ceez2.0 : 9/22/2022 10:38 am : link
annoying af and an unfortunate example of what's wrong with our society.
RE: Who cheats on Nia Long?  
Optimus-NY : 9/22/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15827241 DCOrange said:
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She's adorable.


Exactly. But people get sick of their significant others for whatever reason at some point or another and go off the reservation if the opportunity is presented.
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DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 11:51 am : link
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Ime Udoka has considered resigning, per @SIChrisMannix
It's not just PR  
Jerry in_DC : 9/22/2022 11:59 am : link
It's a legit bad working environment if the people in charge can bang the people who work for them.

Companies don't care if 23 year olds hook up after happy hours. They care a lot if the executives and senior management are screwing the staff. And they should.

Are the rules too strict in some cases? Sure. But its impossible to write perfect rules and companies are going to err on the side of not having their employees get sexually exploited by their superiors.
RE: Why the F should  
k2tampa : 9/22/2022 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15827125 pjcas18 said:
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he or anyone be suspended or disciplined in any way other than privately for a consensual relationship among adults?

this is the world some of you want to live in?

unless there are details that have not been shared this seems stupid.


Players aren't allowed to date cheerleaders. This isn't general employment. These people have contracts that stipulate a whole list of things they can't do.
RE: This getting more attention than the Bret Farve thing is  
BigBlueShock : 9/22/2022 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15827290 Ceez2.0 said:
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annoying af and an unfortunate example of what's wrong with our society.

Well yeah, this is literally breaking news. Of course you’re going to get a lot of it today. And if you haven’t seen the Favre thing covered a shit ton it’s because you’re willfully ignoring it so that you can blame society.

You should really stop believing everything you see on Facebook. And yes, I know that’s where you’re getting your bad info from because I seen the same incredibly stupid thing on there regarding Favre
this is not new - almost 40 years ago  
TJ : 9/22/2022 12:31 pm : link
an exec at my workplace was fired for regularly screwing a subordinate in his office. We joked at the time they only fired him so the whole company wouldn't follow suit and just fuck all day instead of working.
But it was really a case of being bad for worker discipline because everybody assumes you have to screw the boss to get ahead, and company didn't want to be on the bad side of a lawsuit or bad pub when the relationship inevitably went sour.
way to derail  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/22/2022 12:34 pm : link
a very promising career and a relationship with a total babe in Nia Long. I wonder what the details are.

Becky Hammon or whoever the first female coach is has so much pressure on them to not make this same mistake, it would set women coaches back a ton fairly or unfairly.
Every large organization has rules about dating colleagues.  
Section331 : 9/22/2022 12:35 pm : link
That said, the severity of the suspension tells me there is more here than simply dating a subordinate. Maybe he lied about it, and/or asked others to cover it up, but an entire season seems very harsh for this kind of offense.
RE: RE: This getting more attention than the Bret Farve thing is  
Ceez2.0 : 9/22/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15827413 BigBlueShock said:
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annoying af and an unfortunate example of what's wrong with our society.


Well yeah, this is literally breaking news. Of course you’re going to get a lot of it today. And if you haven’t seen the Favre thing covered a shit ton it’s because you’re willfully ignoring it so that you can blame society.

You should really stop believing everything you see on Facebook. And yes, I know that’s where you’re getting your bad info from because I seen the same incredibly stupid thing on there regarding Favre


Very presumptuous of you to "know" where I get my info from being that I haven't been on Facebook in over 10 years.

You should stop assuming you know everything.
RE: RE: RE: This getting more attention than the Bret Farve thing is  
Semipro Lineman : 9/22/2022 1:06 pm : link
In comment 15827463 Ceez2.0 said:
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Very presumptuous of you to "know" where I get my info from being that I haven't been on Facebook in over 10 years.

You should stop assuming you know everything.


So you have a different social media source for your bad takes? Good to know ;-)
The  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 1:12 pm : link
poor woman who has been identified as the one he had an affair with is *not* involved per Marc J Spears
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Ceez2.0 : 9/22/2022 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15827468 Semipro Lineman said:
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Very presumptuous of you to "know" where I get my info from being that I haven't been on Facebook in over 10 years.

You should stop assuming you know everything.



So you have a different social media source for your bad takes? Good to know ;-)


I expressed an opinion, you (others) disagree. Cool. Peace and love bros.
RE: RE: RE: Why the F should  
Mad Mike : 9/22/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15827155 pjcas18 said:
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Like I said, you discipline them privately.

If their policies about what he's done call for suspension, how could they do that privately?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This getting more attention than the Bret Farve thing is  
Semipro Lineman : 9/22/2022 1:40 pm : link
In comment 15827491 Ceez2.0 said:
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Very presumptuous of you to "know" where I get my info from being that I haven't been on Facebook in over 10 years.

You should stop assuming you know everything.



So you have a different social media source for your bad takes? Good to know ;-)



I expressed an opinion, you (others) disagree. Cool. Peace and love bros.


Just joking with you. Your denial about Facebook was worded somewhat specifically so you left yourself open to that joke IMHO.
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Ceez2.0 : 9/22/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15827522 Semipro Lineman said:
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In comment 15827468 Semipro Lineman said:


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In comment 15827463 Ceez2.0 said:


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Very presumptuous of you to "know" where I get my info from being that I haven't been on Facebook in over 10 years.

You should stop assuming you know everything.



So you have a different social media source for your bad takes? Good to know ;-)



I expressed an opinion, you (others) disagree. Cool. Peace and love bros.



Just joking with you. Your denial about Facebook was worded somewhat specifically so you left yourself open to that joke IMHO.


Lol, gotcha.
astonishing  
JesseS : 9/22/2022 2:01 pm : link
that people think rules on relationships within an organization are something new or a "what the world is coming to" type of thing.

This is decades old, for good reason. At the very least, it has to be reported, and people are moved around. It is truly astounding that people turn it into something to be aggrieved about.
Stephen A Smith  
Kmed6000 : 9/22/2022 2:02 pm : link
said it's only because he's black. This happens to white people all the time and nobody says anything.
 
christian : 9/22/2022 2:23 pm : link
I suspect there is more to the story than simply a relationship and a violation of policy.

Organizations very rightly take these things more seriously if there’s been retaliation, compromising material, a crime committed, or pending litigation.

If the team is considering a year long suspension and he’s considering quitting, I’ll be surprised if this is a small matter.
RE: Who cheats on Nia Long?  
FStubbs : 9/22/2022 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15827241 DCOrange said:
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She's adorable.


Tony Parker allegedly cheated on Eva Longoria with Brent Barry's wife.
RE: RE: Who cheats on Nia Long?  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15827707 FStubbs said:
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She's adorable.



Tony Parker allegedly cheated on Eva Longoria with Brent Barry's wife.

FWIW Brent Barry's wife is beautiful as well
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Thibs is getting a lot of praise on Twitter  
bceagle05 : 9/22/2022 3:25 pm : link
for ditching his fiancé years ago to immerse himself in coaching. Gotta love social media.
It's official  
Anakim : 9/22/2022 9:53 pm : link
Suspended for the whole season
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Del Shofner : 9/22/2022 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15827385 Jerry in_DC said:
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Companies don't care if 23 year olds hook up after happy hours. They care a lot if the executives and senior management are screwing the staff. And they should.


This. Mrs S and I were colleagues at a big NY law firm back in the day. We obviously hooked up, and we even got married while both still employed there. The firm had no problem with it - we were first year associates and after we were married they even had us interview law students and laterals together. (Hey - come here - work all night and meet your spouse!). But what Jerry says is correct. Executives and management screwing the staff is different. As it should be.
RE: Stephen A Smith  
BlackLight : 9/22/2022 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15827564 Kmed6000 said:
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said it's only because he's black. This happens to white people all the time and nobody says anything.


Yeah okay. The guy just took the Celts to Game 6 of the NBA Finals in his first season as their coach. If anything should have protected him, it should've been his success as a coach to this point.

Anyone but the head coach probably gets shit-canned, regardless of skin color or value to the organization.

It's hard to imagine, but Stephen A. Smith might simply be trying to provoke a response with his opinion.
RE: Stephen A Smith  
jvm52106 : 9/23/2022 6:18 am : link
In comment 15827564 Kmed6000 said:
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said it's only because he's black. This happens to white people all the time and nobody says anything.


Yawn...
Obviously there is more going  
jvm52106 : 9/23/2022 6:21 am : link
On here and consensual means nothing if it creates a "hostile or uncomfortable" workplace for others, especially if the actions go against stated team policies and regulations.
Now the story is coming out  
pjcas18 : 9/23/2022 8:27 am : link
Turns out that what began as consensual allegedly became “unwanted advances”. Athletic has some new details that are emerging
RE: RE: Who cheats on Nia Long?  
bradshaw44 : 9/23/2022 9:37 am : link
In comment 15827374 Optimus-NY said:
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She's adorable.



Exactly. But people get sick of their significant others for whatever reason at some point or another and go off the reservation if the opportunity is presented.


Chris Rock summed it up best. "You show me the most beautiful woman in the world, and I can show you the guy that's tire of F-----g her!!"
RE: RE: RE: Who cheats on Nia Long?  
bradshaw44 : 9/23/2022 9:37 am : link
In comment 15828293 bradshaw44 said:
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She's adorable.



Exactly. But people get sick of their significant others for whatever reason at some point or another and go off the reservation if the opportunity is presented.



Chris Rock summed it up best. "You show me the most beautiful woman in the world, and I can show you the guy that's tire of F-----g her!!"


*tired
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