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NFT: Mets chat - Off Day today; A's tomorrow; ATL/PHI play later

Optimus-NY : 9/22/2022 12:36 pm
The Braves and Phillies play later today. Mets are off today and up by a game with some issues to deal with:

-Nimmo's left quad tightness
-Marte's finger is still on the mend
-McNeil took a lickin' n kept on tickin' (twice yesterday)

Here's who's on the mound tomorrow:


Let's consolidate today's news in one thread today. Yesterday's game thread might get buried. Share any news about any of these situation and more here please. Toodles!

Braves vs. Phillies  
johnnyb : 9/22/2022 1:12 pm : link
is like Dallas playing Philly. I hope they beat the hell out of eachother. Can't root for either one.
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DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 1:15 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
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The Mets formally extended Joey Lucchesi's rehab assignment past the 30-day limit, which is not unusual for Tommy John rehabbers. He remains an outside option to help the pitching staff at the very end of the season.

Lucchesi on rehab: 7 G, 10.1 IP, 11 K, 2 BB, 1.74 ERA
RE: Braves vs. Phillies  
Section331 : 9/22/2022 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15827476 johnnyb said:
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is like Dallas playing Philly. I hope they beat the hell out of eachother. Can't root for either one.


In this case, I have zero problem rooting for the Phils, and I fucking hate the Phils.
Lucchesi is an interesting one  
KDavies : 9/22/2022 1:33 pm : link
could be better than Joely as a LHRP, but the Mets are really running out of time with him. They can't try to see what he has at the MLB in the playoffs
Tie breaker question...  
dannysection 313 : 9/22/2022 1:34 pm : link
If they Mets win one of the three games at Atlanta next weekend, that would assure they have a winning record against the Braves this year; I think!

Pretty sure they are ahead 9-7, with 3 games to go, so one more win gives them 10 wins in a 19 game schedule.

My question is, would this 10th win give the Mets the first tie breaker for the division if the two teams finish with identical records?

Thanks!

We are all Phillies fans for the next 4 days.  
larryflower37 : 9/22/2022 1:34 pm : link
I hope they beat the hell out of ATL.
Danny, yes  
Snablats : 9/22/2022 1:42 pm : link
if the Mets win one of the 3 in Atlanta, then they hold the tiebreaker

This is the Mets best chance to open up a lead. 3 best pitchers going against a really bad Oakland team while Atlanta is in Philly, who is desperate to hold onto their WC spot

Now lets hope Philly plays desperately
Pretty  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 1:43 pm : link
odd MLB allows teams to extend rehab assignments ONLY for UCL injuries. Why not shoulder or ACL? Strange.
Thanks, Dan...  
dannysection 313 : 9/22/2022 1:49 pm : link
That could be huge..

Yes, Oakland is terrible, but the Mets seem to play down to their opponents (See Cub series) and in baseball, well who knows. The Pirates went 5-1 against the Dodgers, for instance.
The Mets  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 2:00 pm : link
have two off-days next week, in I believe a rarity before the Braves series, Monday and Thursday.

They should be able to manipulate the rotation for the Braves series if they haven't already to start deGrom, Scherzer and Bassitt.
RE: Tie breaker question...  
Optimus-NY : 9/22/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15827511 dannysection 313 said:
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If they Mets win one of the three games at Atlanta next weekend, that would assure they have a winning record against the Braves this year; I think!

Pretty sure they are ahead 9-7, with 3 games to go, so one more win gives them 10 wins in a 19 game schedule.

My question is, would this 10th win give the Mets the first tie breaker for the division if the two teams finish with identical records?

Thanks!


Correct. That's why it's essential that they win at least one of those games. Bassitt, deGrom, and Scherzer are scheduled to pitch on 9/30, 10/1, and 10/2 respectively, so they have no excuse not winning one of those games.

If the Mets head to Atlanta up a game on the Braves and win just one of the games there, then I like their chances. They'd go back home to face the Nationals and would have to win all three--because I'm assuming the Braves will do just that in Miami against the Marlins for their last three games. If all of those things fall into place for the Mets and they fail to sweep the Nats---the team w/the worst record in MLB--- with the division on the line, then they wouldn't deserve to win the NL East.
Mets need to sweep Oakland  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2022 2:07 pm : link
It will be tough with Oakland throwing 3 LH starters at them, while Mets are missing Marte, the one guy in the lineup who really consistently hits lefties.

But very likely, the division comes down to showdown in Atlanta with the Braves. Buck set up the rotation to have mets three best pitchers going against Braves: Bassitt, Scherzer and Degrom
RE: Mets need to sweep Oakland  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15827571 Vanzetti said:
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It will be tough with Oakland throwing 3 LH starters at them, while Mets are missing Marte, the one guy in the lineup who really consistently hits lefties.

But very likely, the division comes down to showdown in Atlanta with the Braves. Buck set up the rotation to have mets three best pitchers going against Braves: Bassitt, Scherzer and Degrom


Would be a nice series to see Vientos bust out. 2 of oak's starters are basically AAA pitchers. Waldichuk has only made 4 big league starts (7 era), Sears has made 8 and done better but obviously still early in his career. Irvin is experienced but he is also the opposite of overpowering. 91 mph fb, 19th percentile exit velocity allowed. reverse splits for his career but probably couldn't set up a better 3 straight matchups for a rhh.
5 hours from now...  
Optimus-NY : 9/22/2022 2:16 pm : link





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DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 2:50 pm : link
That said, ESPN's Buster Olney believes deGrom will bolt.

"I don't believe he will be (back with the Mets) . . . his decision is based more on what his comfort level is," Olney told The Michael Kay Show, regarding whether deGrom will stay put.
We're in the playoffs  
Spider43 : 9/22/2022 2:53 pm : link
I'm not as caught up in winning the division as others here. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great, but it's not the end of the world if the Bravos finish ahead of us. I don't think they will, but hey, who knows.

It's more important to me that we get things right for the postseason. Start resting guys and nurse the various injuries already (but get them key AB's to remain sharp and still have their timing down!). Start planning the playoff rotations for the starters. Get the pen rested, but ready and sharp. Start thinking about the matchups.

As far as I'm concerned we passed the big test against the Dodgers already a few weeks back. We CAN hang with them. As long as we don't lay an egg against the Bravos in the penultimate series, we'll be aight.
What does this mean?  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 2:59 pm : link

"his decision is based more on what his comfort level is"
RE: RE: Mets need to sweep Oakland  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15827583 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15827571 Vanzetti said:


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It will be tough with Oakland throwing 3 LH starters at them, while Mets are missing Marte, the one guy in the lineup who really consistently hits lefties.

But very likely, the division comes down to showdown in Atlanta with the Braves. Buck set up the rotation to have mets three best pitchers going against Braves: Bassitt, Scherzer and Degrom



Would be a nice series to see Vientos bust out. 2 of oak's starters are basically AAA pitchers. Waldichuk has only made 4 big league starts (7 era), Sears has made 8 and done better but obviously still early in his career. Irvin is experienced but he is also the opposite of overpowering. 91 mph fb, 19th percentile exit velocity allowed. reverse splits for his career but probably couldn't set up a better 3 straight matchups for a rhh.


I think Vientos is going to need about 150 ABs. He has been right on some pitches but is just missing them.

RE: What does this mean?  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15827664 pjcas18 said:
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"his decision is based more on what his comfort level is"


i think it means that he's not a "big city guy" and would be more comfortable closer to where he lives (florida).

i also think all the noise from jdg all year has been smokescreen to make sure it's clear there will be no hometown discount.

it seems clear he's steamed at the perceived hometown discount he gave the mets and his former agent the first time, i find it hard to believe he's going somewhere else for a hometown discount but i guess you never know. i still find it amazing freeman left atlanta.
RE: What does this mean?  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15827664 pjcas18 said:
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"his decision is based more on what his comfort level is"


Referring to the market aka not loving NY
Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:10 pm : link
batted ball data is completely fine/good, his K-rate however can't be hand waved away with "bad luck". 20 ab's 8 k's. Extremely small sample size of course but 40% k-rate = a ticket to the bench. They likely waited too long to really have any idea if he can help them right now. For his sake, he's lucky Ruf has been so bad it's even a discussion.
RE: RE: RE: Mets need to sweep Oakland  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15827674 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 15827583 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 15827571 Vanzetti said:


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It will be tough with Oakland throwing 3 LH starters at them, while Mets are missing Marte, the one guy in the lineup who really consistently hits lefties.

But very likely, the division comes down to showdown in Atlanta with the Braves. Buck set up the rotation to have mets three best pitchers going against Braves: Bassitt, Scherzer and Degrom



Would be a nice series to see Vientos bust out. 2 of oak's starters are basically AAA pitchers. Waldichuk has only made 4 big league starts (7 era), Sears has made 8 and done better but obviously still early in his career. Irvin is experienced but he is also the opposite of overpowering. 91 mph fb, 19th percentile exit velocity allowed. reverse splits for his career but probably couldn't set up a better 3 straight matchups for a rhh.



I think Vientos is going to need about 150 ABs. He has been right on some pitches but is just missing them.


i don't expect there's anything he can do in another 10-20 at bats this year. next year unless he has a crazy spring i would think he'll start in the minors to play every day and then come up when he's hot.

knowing what we know now of how they view his defensive versatility though it's that much more frustrating they didn't give him the 50-100 at bats in june/july when they had the chance to. or trade him for a meaningful piece.
RE: RE: What does this mean?  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15827681 DanMetroMan said:
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"his decision is based more on what his comfort level is"



Referring to the market aka not loving NY


sayonara, don't let the door hit you on the ass.

though situations like this always remind me when Roger Clemens became a FA with the Red Sox and said he was not going to re-sign in Boston because he wanted to be closer to home (Texas) and then he signed with the Blue Jays.

Mets  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:12 pm : link
expected to sign C Daiverson Gutierrez for what BA is saying is the 19th biggest bonus of the period. As I've noted previously, the Mets are not connected to/expected to sign any of the premium names. Will those names work out? No clue. Just stating the facts as we have them right now. He would be the second of 2 7 figure signees for this period joining SS Christopher Larez.
To  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:14 pm : link
be clear, I'm just deciphering Olney's statement, I'm not saying I know anything about deGrom's preference. It's been recently rumored while Atlanta may be the team he "most likely" lands with, Texas is another team "rumored" to be eying him.
I don't care if deGrom  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 3:18 pm : link
opts out and signs elsewhere. It's his right.

I just hope the Mets ride him as much as they can this stretch run and playoffs.

Once he announced he was opting out I figured he was gone, but that also means no kid gloves if i were running things - especially down the stretch and in the playoffs (think Matt Harvey).

RE: Vientos  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15827689 DanMetroMan said:
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batted ball data is completely fine/good, his K-rate however can't be hand waved away with "bad luck". 20 ab's 8 k's. Extremely small sample size of course but 40% k-rate = a ticket to the bench. They likely waited too long to really have any idea if he can help them right now. For his sake, he's lucky Ruf has been so bad it's even a discussion.


of course a 40% k-rate is bad but the % numbers are meaningless in a 20 plate appearance sample size. 1 less K =35%, 2 less = 30%. the 10% walk rate is more encouraging than the 40% k rate but again 1 more or less in either direction entirely distorts it. He's had less than half the plate appearances baty had and he was still in a SSS. then add in the extra context that vientos has only had a handful of starts, has had to pinch hit a bunch, and didn't just get to just play every day like baty did.

JD Davis has a 38% k-rate with the SFG in 113 plate appearances since the deadline and a 129 RC / 808 ops because he also has 5 homers.

points being if you can hit with power it can cover up some warts and more often than not there are going to be growing pains with young players that can only be overcome by playing through it - which could have happened for vientos if he'd gotten more playing time when they had the chance because the batted ball data is already showing up.
Interesting  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 3:39 pm : link
piece from Eno today. Data suggests the new rules will hurt "bigger/slower" 2b/3b. This won't impact McNeil (he doesn't fit that) but it could impact Baty and/or Vientos.
There is a lot of smoke around deGrom leaving  
Chris684 : 9/22/2022 4:01 pm : link
so I don't dismiss the idea that maybe deep down this market isn't his first choice (although I'm not exactly sure what his gripe would be considering he is a living legend in the eyes of Mets fans who practically worship him).

I have a hard time believing that Steve Cohen will come in 2nd place for deGrom's services on the open market. Ultimately I think Jake will have to take less money to leave here which is why I don't see it happening. Maybe that's just my heart talking.
I know exactly where Degrom will land  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2022 4:03 pm : link
with whoever offers him the most money. That will be the determining factor. Comfort level, quality of schools etc only matters if the money is the same.

As far as opting out goes, he had to do that because Mets have a team option for 2024, so if Jake had not opted out he would have lost all leverage in negotiating a longterm deal.

So opting out is not at all a sign of whether he will stay. He was always going to opt out (unless he had a career-ending injury)
RE: Interesting  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15827740 DanMetroMan said:
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piece from Eno today. Data suggests the new rules will hurt "bigger/slower" 2b/3b. This won't impact McNeil (he doesn't fit that) but it could impact Baty and/or Vientos.


defensively? i would think there's more positive impact for pull side power hitters since they are generally the most easily shifted.
RE: I know exactly where Degrom will land  
Eric on Li : 9/22/2022 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15827773 Vanzetti said:
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with whoever offers him the most money. That will be the determining factor. Comfort level, quality of schools etc only matters if the money is the same.

As far as opting out goes, he had to do that because Mets have a team option for 2024, so if Jake had not opted out he would have lost all leverage in negotiating a longterm deal.

So opting out is not at all a sign of whether he will stay. He was always going to opt out (unless he had a career-ending injury)


agreed. 99.9% of the time it's $.
RE: RE: Interesting  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15827774 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15827740 DanMetroMan said:


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piece from Eno today. Data suggests the new rules will hurt "bigger/slower" 2b/3b. This won't impact McNeil (he doesn't fit that) but it could impact Baty and/or Vientos.



defensively? i would think there's more positive impact for pull side power hitters since they are generally the most easily shifted.


Yes. Defensively
Eno Sarris-  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 4:08 pm : link
The league has been trying out bigger, slower defenders at second base and third base with the shift rules. Those players may be in for a rude awakening this year.

Helped the most: Corey Seager, Rowdy Tellez, Matt Olson, Kyle Schwarber, Max Muncy, Shohei Ohtani, Max Kepler, Jared Walsh

Hurt the most: Patrick Wisdom, Nolan Gorman, Luis Rengifo, Harold Castro, Alec Bohm
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 4:09 pm : link
"There will be a pitch clock, set at 15 seconds with nobody on base. The bases will be bigger. To combat excessive shifting, infielders will have to be on the infield dirt, two on each side of second. As Jayson Stark said, “stuff will happen.” There will be winners and losers as baseball tries to reshape the game into one that displays more athleticism and action."
I take Olney's comment  
Dr. D : 9/22/2022 4:10 pm : link
with a huge grain of salt. If deGrom is unhappy that he gave the cheapass Wilpons a home town discount, what's that got to do with Cohen? I don't think deGrom is stupid. He knows Cohen had nothing to do with that and it's totally understandable that he opted out. Why wouldn't he?

Doesn't mean he necessarily wants to leave, it just means he wants to be paid more and he knows the new boss can make it so. Does anyone think Cohen doesn't care if he loses deGrom? Especially to the braves?

Furthermore, re. the Braves, do they have a history of paying a shitload for older FA pitchers? And as far as geography, yes Atlanta is closer to his home in Deland FL, but it's not like it's a quick drive. It's about 6.5 hours.

I also think he may be enjoying his team right now, the atmosphere and playing with guys like Scherzer. He's a simple man, and provided the money is right, he might not want to start playing for another franchise at this stage of his career. You think Tom Glavine would've chosen to leave the Braves to come to the Mets if the Braves still wanted him and the money was the same?

Only time will tell, and if the wiponzi's still owned the team, I would say he's bye bye, but with Cohen I like our chances.
It's  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 4:12 pm : link
been suggested (in part) that some of deGrom's willingness to leave stems back to the handling of his injuries. One item brought up... Sandy said deGrom had a torn ligament, deGrom immediately disputed this.


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According to team president and acting general manager Sandy Alderson, who spoke to reporters prior to the Mets-Marlins series opener in Miami on Tuesday, deGrom had a sprained/partially torn UCL in his right elbow.



deGrom

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"I know what was said, but my ligament is perfectly fine," deGrom said. "I’ve been throwing. So I wouldn’t be throwing if I had a compromised ligament. That’s the plan, to continue to throw and build up and see where we end up. And that’s all I’m going to say."
RE: I take Olney's comment  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15827782 Dr. D said:
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with a huge grain of salt. If deGrom is unhappy that he gave the cheapass Wilpons a home town discount, what's that got to do with Cohen? I don't think deGrom is stupid. He knows Cohen had nothing to do with that and it's totally understandable that he opted out. Why wouldn't he?

Doesn't mean he necessarily wants to leave, it just means he wants to be paid more and he knows the new boss can make it so. Does anyone think Cohen doesn't care if he loses deGrom? Especially to the braves?

Furthermore, re. the Braves, do they have a history of paying a shitload for older FA pitchers? And as far as geography, yes Atlanta is closer to his home in Deland FL, but it's not like it's a quick drive. It's about 6.5 hours.

I also think he may be enjoying his team right now, the atmosphere and playing with guys like Scherzer. He's a simple man, and provided the money is right, he might not want to start playing for another franchise at this stage of his career. You think Tom Glavine would've chosen to leave the Braves to come to the Mets if the Braves still wanted him and the money was the same?

Only time will tell, and if the wiponzi's still owned the team, I would say he's bye bye, but with Cohen I like our chances.


I believe it's been noted it's only something like an hour on a plane.
with Cohen in charge  
Dr. D : 9/22/2022 4:22 pm : link
I think it's not just his money that will make a difference, though that's big. But I think his personality, passion, love of the team and salesmanship will make a difference. Scherzer didn't want to come to the Mets, but Cohen made it happen anyway.

If Cohen really wants deGrom to stay, I think most likely it will happen. Not only can Cohen afford to pay deGrom, but he seems like the type who will sell staying to deGrom.

Sell the possibility of a couple championships and that he can be an all time legend with the Mets, maybe even have a statue some day. He won't get that going to the braves or TX.
RE: RE: I take Olney's comment  
Dr. D : 9/22/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15827788 DanMetroMan said:
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I believe it's been noted it's only something like an hour on a plane.

Yeah it's an hour vs. probably about 2.5 or so from NY?

I guess we'll find out eventually how important that is vs. the other stuff.
RE: with Cohen in charge  
Dr. D : 9/22/2022 4:39 pm : link
In comment 15827796 Dr. D said:
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Sell the possibility of a couple championships and that he can be an all time legend with the Mets, maybe even have a statue some day. He won't get that going to the braves or TX.

He might get a championship, but he won't be a legend to those fans or potentially have a statue some day. deGrom sees how Tom Seaver and Piazza are revered. Who wouldn't want that? Is deGrom going to get that by going to the braves or whatever team at age 35? His standing with Mets fans will be diminished and he probably won't earn similar love from the new fans.

I think Cohen will sell those things, if he wants deGrom to stay.
Jake  
PakistanPete : 9/22/2022 4:39 pm : link
just wants to get paid imho.

Everything else is noise.
RE: Jake  
Optimus-NY : 9/22/2022 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15827818 PakistanPete said:
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just wants to get paid imho.

Everything else is noise.


This
RE: It's  
Chris684 : 9/22/2022 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15827783 DanMetroMan said:
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been suggested (in part) that some of deGrom's willingness to leave stems back to the handling of his injuries. One item brought up... Sandy said deGrom had a torn ligament, deGrom immediately disputed this.




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According to team president and acting general manager Sandy Alderson, who spoke to reporters prior to the Mets-Marlins series opener in Miami on Tuesday, deGrom had a sprained/partially torn UCL in his right elbow.




deGrom



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"I know what was said, but my ligament is perfectly fine," deGrom said. "I’ve been throwing. So I wouldn’t be throwing if I had a compromised ligament. That’s the plan, to continue to throw and build up and see where we end up. And that’s all I’m going to say."



Whatever organizational flaws deGrom has dealt with over his career with the Mets so far, I’m sure he can realize that we’re basically already talking about a different organization at this point, with even more changes coming.

If the money from the Mets is more than he’s getting elsewhere, are some off base comments Sandy Alderson made (who will no longer be here by the way) realistically getting in the way?
RE: We're in the playoffs  
Section331 : 9/22/2022 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15827653 Spider43 said:
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I'm not as caught up in winning the division as others here. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great, but it's not the end of the world if the Bravos finish ahead of us. I don't think they will, but hey, who knows.


Winning the division almost certainly means playing one less series, you can't overstate how important that is. I'll be incredibly disappointed if the Mets don't take the division. It would give them 5 days off, they can set up whatever rotation they like, it's an enormous benefit to get the bye.
RE: RE: We're in the playoffs  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 5:14 pm : link
In comment 15827834 Section331 said:
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In comment 15827653 Spider43 said:


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I'm not as caught up in winning the division as others here. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great, but it's not the end of the world if the Bravos finish ahead of us. I don't think they will, but hey, who knows.




Winning the division almost certainly means playing one less series, you can't overstate how important that is. I'll be incredibly disappointed if the Mets don't take the division. It would give them 5 days off, they can set up whatever rotation they like, it's an enormous benefit to get the bye.


Especially with Marte's finger issue
Guys like Jake who don't make it to the majors until they are 25+  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2022 5:21 pm : link
have a very short window to make big money.

In 2019 at age 31, he was "only" making 7 million.
In his entire career, he has only made 120 million (including this year).

Considering he is one of the most dominant pitchers of all time that is not that much.

He will definitely be looking for a 7 rear deal. Probably in the neighborhood of 300 million.

I have a feeling Mets are going to look to move Lindor after 2024 season, so that he does not obtain 5 and 10 status. That's basically where Jake's money will come from.

Move  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 5:27 pm : link
Lindor? They have 34 million committed after 2024... total. In fact, as of right now they have almost no money committed beyond next season. Lindor/Marte/McCann/Alonso. They also aren't exactly loaded with young talent that will be paid before that time. I don't see that AT ALL being the route they go. They have no need to.
James  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 5:29 pm : link
McCann, Mark Canha and Carlos Carrasco are making 32 million this season. Francisco Lindor is making 34. A Steve Cohen owned team isn't going to have to move one of their best players (the top SS in baseball by fWAR this season) to afford keeping another player.
A  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 5:33 pm : link
list of players who are FA's for the Mets by the end of next season

Canha
deGrom
Escobar
Bassitt
deGrom
Nimmo
Carrasco
Walker
Diaz
Scherzer
May
Ottavino
Williams
Lugo
Ruf
Naquin


The Mets have absolutely no need to trade Francisco Lindor
Winning the division is huge this season  
Snablats : 9/22/2022 5:40 pm : link
The way the matchups are, it would be a big advantage to win the East

And yet another black mark on the Sandy Dumbass ledger, pissing off deGrom
Good news  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2022 6:24 pm : link
in case it hadn't been shared yet.

GENY Mets Report
@genymets
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NEWS: Brandon Nimmo had an MRI today & the results came back clean. He is day-to-day. #LGM
RE: Good news  
speedywheels : 9/22/2022 6:55 pm : link
In comment 15827884 pjcas18 said:
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in case it hadn't been shared yet.

GENY Mets Report
@genymets
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NEWS: Brandon Nimmo had an MRI today & the results came back clean. He is day-to-day. #LGM


that is good news. hopefully he doesn't miss more than a few games...
Acuna  
DanMetroMan : 9/22/2022 7:07 pm : link
Scratched, back tightness. Not rooting for injuries just pointing this out
RE: We're in the playoffs  
Gmanfandan : 9/22/2022 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15827653 Spider43 said:
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I'm not as caught up in winning the division as others here. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great, but it's not the end of the world if the Bravos finish ahead of us. I don't think they will, but hey, who knows.

It's more important to me that we get things right for the postseason. Start resting guys and nurse the various injuries already (but get them key AB's to remain sharp and still have their timing down!). Start planning the playoff rotations for the starters. Get the pen rested, but ready and sharp. Start thinking about the matchups.

As far as I'm concerned we passed the big test against the Dodgers already a few weeks back. We CAN hang with them. As long as we don't lay an egg against the Bravos in the penultimate series, we'll be aight.
Hush your mouth! I have a $200 bottle of bourbon bet that we win the division. GET THAT BYE BOYS!!!
Phils up 1-0 bottom 5  
speedywheels : 9/22/2022 8:53 pm : link
They may still yet lose, but at least they aren't rolling over tonight...
RE: Phils up 1-0 bottom 5  
Dennis : 9/22/2022 10:02 pm : link
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They may still yet lose, but at least they aren't rolling over tonight...


Bottom 8th just starting. Still 1-0, Phillies ahead. Phillies coming up to bat.
RE: RE: Phils up 1-0 bottom 5  
Dennis : 9/22/2022 10:16 pm : link
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They may still yet lose, but at least they aren't rolling over tonight...



Bottom 8th just starting. Still 1-0, Phillies ahead. Phillies coming up to bat.


Bottom 9th now starting, still 1-0, Phillies ahead. Pray.
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Dennis : 9/22/2022 10:27 pm : link
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They may still yet lose, but at least they aren't rolling over tonight...



Bottom 8th just starting. Still 1-0, Phillies ahead. Phillies coming up to bat.



Bottom 9th now starting, still 1-0, Phillies ahead. Pray.


Phillies won, 1-0.
One in the loss column  
Gmanfandan : 9/22/2022 10:27 pm : link
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big loss  
spike : 9/22/2022 10:27 pm : link
Mets need to take care of business and shut the door.
Wooooo! PHI wins!  
speedywheels : 9/22/2022 10:29 pm : link
Now go take care of shit this weekend vs AAA A’s
That is a very big loss for them  
moespree : 9/22/2022 10:42 pm : link
Atlanta needed to win both the games in hand.

If the Mets enter the Atlanta series anything more than 1 game up, they only need to win 1 of 3 to exit the series in first place.
As I said, this weekend can be the decider  
Snablats : 9/22/2022 10:56 pm : link
Gotta take care of our own business though, not like the Cubs series
Phils also beat their best pitcher: Max Fried  
Vanzetti : 9/22/2022 10:57 pm : link
And they have Nola going tomorrow night against Odorizzi.

It would be great if Phils take first two
And the Mets have their 3 best starters going this weekend  
Snablats : 9/22/2022 11:49 pm : link
No excuses, gotta sweep a team 40 games under .500 with the 2nd worst record in baseball
I saw a stat that I thought was interesting  
moespree : 9/23/2022 1:03 am : link
Braves are 76-34 with Acuna playing

17-22 without him

Yeah I know, no big mystery a team is better when it's best players are in the lineup but given how large the discrepancy was, it is noteworthy.

Braves have really good players but 42 games over with him playing and 5 under without shows how important he actually is to that team.
Mets just got a HUGE assist from the Phils.  
Optimus-NY : 9/23/2022 1:54 am : link
It's now imperative that they sweep the Triple A's in Oakland. Zero excuses for them not to, particularly with their Big 3 on the mound in Bassitt, deGrominator, and Scherzer (in that order). Hopefully the Phils can win a 2nd one too to help the Mets even more in case the Marlins win one of the two in New York next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. It looks like the Mets will miss Alcantara's turn in the Marlins' rotation since he's pitching Saturday against the Nats. Another HUGE assist.
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