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Sometimes the best moves are the ones not made

robbieballs2003 : 9/22/2022 10:50 pm
Man, we dodged a bullet paying for Trubisky. I am glad we didn't get into a bidding war for him. That is all.
Or wilson  
armstead98 : 9/22/2022 11:00 pm : link
Agreed  
jvm52106 : 9/22/2022 11:02 pm : link
That would have been pretty bad
I can’t think of too many trades for a starting QB that worked out  
Ivan15 : 9/22/2022 11:21 pm : link
I don’t consider the Eli trade because he wasn’t a starter at the time.
It’s Pickett time  
Joe Beckwith : 9/23/2022 1:26 am : link
In Pittsburgh.
Roll the dice, either way it’s ultimately a win.
It’s Pickett time  
Joe Beckwith : 9/23/2022 1:28 am : link
In Pittsburgh.
Roll the dice, either way it’s ultimately a win.
What if … ?  
monstercoo : 9/23/2022 3:49 am : link
It didn’t make sense to pay one of these QBs this year, but we’d be a better team with most of the QBs that were available. If this team continues to play well, I could see a Wilson-like move in 2023.
We are a better team with Jones.  
Giant John : 9/23/2022 4:07 am : link
Glad we didn’t make those moves.
Jones will need to be replaced  
section125 : 9/23/2022 6:01 am : link
soo enough. Trubisky never was an alternative except for the anyone other than Jones group.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2022 6:13 am : link
Mitch sucks.
RE: I can’t think of too many trades for a starting QB that worked out  
Drewcon40 : 9/23/2022 6:29 am : link
In comment 15828153 Ivan15 said:
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I don’t consider the Eli trade because he wasn’t a starter at the time.


I agree - it can work if your other parts are in place. Stafford and Jimmy Garoppolo come to mind as successful. I do think you don’t need to draft at the top of the draft. The top QBs have different paths to success.
We may not be in a position to trade up  
ATL_Giants : 9/23/2022 7:20 am : link
for a QB in this upcoming draft. There are other teams with more draft capital.
Next year, someone other than a rookie is a real possibility for us.
Bigger  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 7:21 am : link
bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.
Anyone  
dslayton86 : 9/23/2022 7:52 am : link
that wanted Trubisky when we already had Jones (a better mediocre/bad QB) is an idiot fr fr.
RE: Bigger  
BLUATHRT : 9/23/2022 7:52 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.


I was thinking this watching the Raiders and Ravens D's both sucking.
Or Mayfield  
ZogZerg : 9/23/2022 8:22 am : link
Some here claim he is good.
He blows.
LOL at the Turbisky comments  
HomerJones45 : 9/23/2022 8:26 am : link
you guys just saw what other teams' fans watch with Danny Dimes. Turbisky's performance last night was very Jones-like.
RE: Or Mayfield  
mfsd : 9/23/2022 8:35 am : link
In comment 15828219 ZogZerg said:
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Some here claim he is good.
He blows.


Yup. And many people here went to the mat for the legendary Josh Rosen, both in the draft and after Arizona dumped him. He now resides on the Browns practice squad, his 6th team in 5 years , after some guy named Feleipe Franks beat him out for the Falcons 3rd string job
RE: LOL at the Turbisky comments  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2022 8:39 am : link
In comment 15828223 HomerJones45 said:
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you guys just saw what other teams' fans watch with Danny Dimes. Turbisky's performance last night was very Jones-like.

The point of the thread once again went completely over your head. Which is the least surprising thing ever. You’re an extremely dim bulb
RE: LOL at the Turbisky comments  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2022 8:51 am : link
In comment 15828223 HomerJones45 said:
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you guys just saw what other teams' fans watch with Danny Dimes. Turbisky's performance last night was very Jones-like.


They probably think he sucks, whats your point?

The point of the thread is that spending money on Trubisky looks like its going to be a complete swing and miss for Pittsburgh and as someone who thought he could have been an upgrade, I was wrong.
also  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2022 8:55 am : link
you are seeing how much that OL and run game factored into Baker looking solid in Cleveland. Brissett stinks but they can still move the ball and score despite him. Starting to put a whole bunch of arguments this past offseason to bed on how good Mayfield really is, or isn't.

Glad we don't have him or Trubisky, just more wasted money (and potentially picks in Baker's case)
I do agree we should not have paid for him  
Essex : 9/23/2022 8:55 am : link
but I also think if Jones goes down he would be better than Tyrod Taylor. A lot of the problems last night for Pittsburgh stemmed from the fact that they could not stop the run. Trubiscky is an easy target because he is not very good, but that game last night was lost at the LOS on both sides of the ball.
I agree  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2022 9:06 am : link
probably better than Taylor.
Jones is way better than Tribisky  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/23/2022 9:07 am : link
Can you imagine what Phil Simms could have accomplished in 1980 if he had Thomas and Neal as his tackles?
RE: RE: LOL at the Turbisky comments  
HomerJones45 : 9/23/2022 9:14 am : link
In comment 15828233 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15828223 HomerJones45 said:


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you guys just saw what other teams' fans watch with Danny Dimes. Turbisky's performance last night was very Jones-like.


The point of the thread once again went completely over your head. Which is the least surprising thing ever. You’re an extremely dim bulb
Thanks! I take my amusement where I find it.
RE: I agree  
monstercoo : 9/23/2022 9:16 am : link
In comment 15828248 UConn4523 said:
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probably better than Taylor.


The Trubisky contract is basically the same as the Taylor contract too.
RE: I agree  
monstercoo : 9/23/2022 9:17 am : link
In comment 15828248 UConn4523 said:
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probably better than Taylor.


The Trubisky contract is basically the same as the Taylor contract too.
Yeah, we didn’t lose anything not going after….  
5BowlsSoon : 9/23/2022 9:19 am : link
Mayfield
Trubisky
Wilson


I didn’t want all 3. I would rather draft a QB next year to hold a clipboard when the season begins and develop him for the first year while Tyrod Taylor (assuming Jones won’t be re-signed) becomes a one year starter. If Taylor gets hurt, which is likely, then he could come in unless we feel more comfortable putting in a decent older vet.
I agree with Eric  
arniefez : 9/23/2022 9:22 am : link
Graham leaving is a game changer for the Giants. Watching the game last night reminded me of how much I hate a defense that plays a soft zone.

As far as the QBs go I think Jones and Trubisky are 6 of one half dozen of another. I think Trubisky throws better on the run than Jones. I think Jones runs the game a little better. But IMO neither of them is more than a bottom 3rd of the league on their best day. I think both are best suited as backups.
RE: Bigger  
Dr. D : 9/23/2022 9:23 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.

HUGE! Difference between 2-0 vs. 0-2. Could end up being the difference between a playoff spot and another losing season.

Thank you so much, Coaches Graham and Wink!
I wasn't a fan of the idea to sign Trubisky,  
Section331 : 9/23/2022 9:28 am : link
I've always thought he was uniquely awful, but those that wanted to sign him did so because they wanted someone to compete with Jones for the job. If Jones couldn't beat out Mitch, what does that say about him?
Dodged a bullet paying for Trubisky?  
chick310 : 9/23/2022 9:39 am : link
He was signed for 2 years, $14.3M and $5M guaranteed. And when the Steelers were still contemplating what they might/might not do in the Draft this past year.

Do we really need to couch this is a killer blow avoided?
The Giants would have had to pay more  
ZogZerg : 9/23/2022 9:45 am : link
since Steelers Starting was basically his.
its another 1st Rd QB who  
LG in NYC : 9/23/2022 10:02 am : link
didn't live up to billing.

Leaving DJ out of the discussion so it doesn't get tainted, how many highly drafted QB's have or are flaming out.

Trubisky
Darnold
Mayfield
Haskins (even before his untimely death)
Drew Lock
Rosen
Jared Goff (has some early success and still starting but still, not exactly #1 material)
Wentz
Pax Lynch
Winston
Mariota
Bortles
Manziel
Bridewater


that is just in past 8 years

obviously there have been several successful high draft picks but many more fail to live up to their billing long term than succeed.

it truly is a crap shoot in many ways
RE: Dodged a bullet paying for Trubisky?  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2022 10:05 am : link
In comment 15828296 chick310 said:
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He was signed for 2 years, $14.3M and $5M guaranteed. And when the Steelers were still contemplating what they might/might not do in the Draft this past year.

Do we really need to couch this is a killer blow avoided?


No one is saying that.
RE: Bigger  
The Jake : 9/23/2022 10:13 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.


Not so much a dodged bullet as a GIFT FROM THE GODS FOR OUR DECADE OF SUFFERING.

I love Wink and his defense so much.

That's all.
RE: Bigger  
Eric on Li : 9/23/2022 10:19 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.


100%.
RE: Bigger  
MotownGIANTS : 9/23/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.


Yeah kinda forgot how all that unfolded.
RE: Bigger  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/23/2022 11:15 am : link
In comment 15828202 Eric from BBI said:
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bullet dodged was having our former DC walk and hiring Wink.


Clap, Clap, Clap.
so we dodged a bullet on Trubisky  
Mayo2JZ : 9/23/2022 1:03 pm : link
and spent the $ on KG
RE: I can’t think of too many trades for a starting QB that worked out  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/23/2022 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15828153 Ivan15 said:
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I don’t consider the Eli trade because he wasn’t a starter at the time.

Stafford worked out pretty well for the Rams. But you'd have to think REALLY far back to remember that example.
RE: Jones will need to be replaced  
giantstock : 9/23/2022 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15828189 section125 said:
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soo enough. Trubisky never was an alternative except for the anyone other than Jones group.


Not true at all. Another "Selective Memory" type of post.

From the "Anyone is better than Jones" camp ofc Trubisky was an alternative.
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