Let's kick it off.
I learned that it's always about Daniel Jones, even if the thread was about Special Teams, it will come down to being about Daniel Jones.
I also learned that a QB can throw a game losing interception before halftime and somehow, knowledgeable reporters can opined that Daniel Jones' fate with the Giants only has two choices and there is no middle grounds.
I learned that Head Trainer Ronnie Barnes was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
I learned that you can brag about a prediction of a major statistical achievement even if your original prediction was focused on a completely different stat line. But that's what you took heat over it, etc... and not over the original misidentification.
I learned that the cost control segment on BBI is already fretting over the contract to give a young starter with two more years on his rookie deal.
And finally, I learned that once again the beat reporters and analysis sites are using BBI and other message boards for story ideas.
P.S. If any of y'ouse reporters steal this original old school BBI theme that 15 years old then I'm sending Greg in LI after you
Injuries only happen to the Giants.
I learned that you are being negative if you feel a guy who has already missed or been limited in 85% of his time with the team is listed as limited or injured again.
That Kenny Golladay's issues are because the QB can't make him look better.
Injuries only happen to the Giants.
I learned that you are being negative if you feel a guy who has already missed or been limited in 85% of his time with the team is listed as limited or injured again.
That Kenny Golladay's issues are because the QB can't make him look better.
No man you misunderstood on KG. It was pointing out the logical inconsistency in saying that a QB doesn't have the OL he needs to succeed yet a WR gets none of that understanding put to them. DJ gets infinite excuses was KG is just a bad seed. What people miss is there is a grey area, KG does seem light on effort but that doesn't explain his whole situation and just because DJ has had some sub par talent around him doesn't excuse him from responsibility. It's really that simple but some of you can only see in terms of "players I like" and "players I don't like"
A Yankee fan was the first on the board to speculate that Judge can win the Triple Crown. However, he amended the triple crown in his prediction to Hrs, RBI, and most hits since it was unlikely Judge would catch up to then leader in batting average. He got mocked for that change.
Now that Judge is near the actual triple crown he is arguing that he caught heat for being right with his prediction. I'm throwing shade for the revised history
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I've learned that threads complaining that all the other threads are about Daniel Jones .... become thread about Daniel Jones.
And yet you used this thread to take a shot at some other poster (not me) anyway.
It proves my point.
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on a thread below that apparently the Giants HAVE to draft a QB this spring because they Bills took Allen when ALL of BBI wanted Allen instead of Barkley..
Injuries only happen to the Giants.
I learned that you are being negative if you feel a guy who has already missed or been limited in 85% of his time with the team is listed as limited or injured again.
That Kenny Golladay's issues are because the QB can't make him look better.
No man you misunderstood on KG. It was pointing out the logical inconsistency in saying that a QB doesn't have the OL he needs to succeed yet a WR gets none of that understanding put to them. DJ gets infinite excuses was KG is just a bad seed. What people miss is there is a grey area, KG does seem light on effort but that doesn't explain his whole situation and just because DJ has had some sub par talent around him doesn't excuse him from responsibility. It's really that simple but some of you can only see in terms of "players I like" and "players I don't like"
I think you are missing the point. Its not that DJ is being excused from responsibility, it's that he shouldn't take ALL the responsibility. That seems to get pushed as a big time agenda here. IE a player they don't like blame him for EVERYTHING and let logic be damned.
thanks Producer
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I think you are missing the point. Its not that DJ is being excused from responsibility, it's that he shouldn't take ALL the responsibility. That seems to get pushed as a big time agenda here. IE a player they don't like blame him for EVERYTHING and let logic be damned.
I don't know, I see way more you can't blame him for this or the OL isn't giving him enough time than this is all his fault. You'll have to point some out for me, I think most people are pretty fair about him not having a good cast around him for his career. But some want to excuse his poor play from this and others want to say yes and he has played below average as well, which is the right take.
Actually it's Cashman's fault
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on a thread below that apparently the Giants HAVE to draft a QB this spring because they Bills took Allen when ALL of BBI wanted Allen instead of Barkley..
Injuries only happen to the Giants.
I learned that you are being negative if you feel a guy who has already missed or been limited in 85% of his time with the team is listed as limited or injured again.
That Kenny Golladay's issues are because the QB can't make him look better.
No man you misunderstood on KG. It was pointing out the logical inconsistency in saying that a QB doesn't have the OL he needs to succeed yet a WR gets none of that understanding put to them. DJ gets infinite excuses was KG is just a bad seed. What people miss is there is a grey area, KG does seem light on effort but that doesn't explain his whole situation and just because DJ has had some sub par talent around him doesn't excuse him from responsibility. It's really that simple but some of you can only see in terms of "players I like" and "players I don't like"
Umm, no.. Your last line screams of a deeper meaning, just like in the original thread about Golladay. The whole point seems pretty lost when the coaching staff doesn't even want to play the guy.
People tend to dislike poor QBs, yeah
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I think you are missing the point. Its not that DJ is being excused from responsibility, it's that he shouldn't take ALL the responsibility. That seems to get pushed as a big time agenda here. IE a player they don't like blame him for EVERYTHING and let logic be damned.
I don't know, I see way more you can't blame him for this or the OL isn't giving him enough time than this is all his fault. You'll have to point some out for me, I think most people are pretty fair about him not having a good cast around him for his career. But some want to excuse his poor play from this and others want to say yes and he has played below average as well, which is the right take.
I don't think so. If I have to point out to you then I don't think you have ever read any post from BW or Producer or Mike (I think form Ohio) or Debaser. And before when Go Terps was posting. These are just ones off the top of my head. You mean you never heard or read anything that would suggest that at least a couple of these posters blame EVERYTHING on Jones? And three of them post a lot.
Just let us sit quietly and watch the game please.
Just let us sit quietly and watch the game please.
DOWN IN FRONT!
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In comment 15828379 NoGainDayne said:
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I think you are missing the point. Its not that DJ is being excused from responsibility, it's that he shouldn't take ALL the responsibility. That seems to get pushed as a big time agenda here. IE a player they don't like blame him for EVERYTHING and let logic be damned.
I don't know, I see way more you can't blame him for this or the OL isn't giving him enough time than this is all his fault. You'll have to point some out for me, I think most people are pretty fair about him not having a good cast around him for his career. But some want to excuse his poor play from this and others want to say yes and he has played below average as well, which is the right take.
And I think you are misinteprteting the comments about the OL. It's in "defense" of blaming him for "EVERYTHING" for example when he is referred to as not being a starting caliber QB.
You've seen that before, right?
Plus the owner is in that camp. So how exactly are we at more people blaming him completely? Seems lopsided in the other direction pretty clearly.
Just let us sit quietly and watch the game please.
And don't get me started on streaming sports...
Plus the owner is in that camp. So how exactly are we at more people blaming him completely? Seems lopsided in the other direction pretty clearly.
I don't understand your last question.
And tell me did you think Daniel Jones made even one good throw in the last game?
What everyone is eating this weekend.
Daniel Jones has surpassed Jesus as the most well known name amongst Giants fan base.
You can’t bang secretary’s at work.
Mike Lombardi is the same POS he’s always been.
Golladay isn’t happy, doesn’t understand why he’s not being played. Doesn’t think it matters how hard he tries he should be played, well, because…
Ojulari might play, but won’t, but might.
And lastly, Koldegard is going to the game in London and wants to know who else is going.
I hadn't even heard the term suicide cord before.
Are you sure?
But I wasn't talking about you. Sometimes I disagree with you but I respect your opinion. I asked the question because of one the posters you defended on here BW.
As you say many good throws on the drive. Well read the Sy '56 Giants-Panthers Game Review thread third page Sept 21st 12;06 PM when BW questions Sy's comments on what throws were elite. Are you (BW) going to quibble with SY on what is a "good throw" vs "elite?" Or you (BW) can't let it go that SY is complimenting Jones? Or you (BW) don't even think Jones made one good throw?
Anyhow this is the type of nutjob posts you get from BW and others like him that you are willing to excuse. I'm not saying you are the nutjob- not one bit - I'm saying though you probably have biases just like all of us do - and you are more willing to excuse posters that offer a negative opinion even if a lunatic from many because you're negative on him as well (though not as much as some others). I'm negative too - I don't think they will re-sign him and am okay. I'm expecting a season which we can either draft a QB or look to overpay for one in the future.
***SY made a clear comment on that thread his comment was "Jones CAN DO IT" ie - "he has it in him." There are many posters that don't agree with that. Then wouldn't logic dictate a rebuttal that many agree with SY that he does have it in him and maybe the OL and the WR's and the injuries to Barkley and the prior awful coaching are ALSO to blame?
In order to agree with and defend SY's comment of "He CAN Do it" - then ofc posters would bring up the points I just mentioned, right?
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ChrisRick used to post as Crick n NC
Are you sure?
Maybe I should wait and see :)
The Owner of the team also said this which many of us agree with:
https://www.nj.com/giants/2022/02/with-giants-keeping-daniel-jones-as-starter-in-2022-here-is-whats-next-for-him-and-them-if-he-stinks-again-and-if-he-doesnt.html
"“I would be surprised if he’s not the starter [in Week 1 next season],” said Mara, the Giants’ co-owner. “Daniel will get a chance next year, and we’ll hopefully be able to get a fair evaluation of him. If it doesn’t work out, we’ll go to Plan B. . . . ""
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He clearly says we will go to Plan B if things don't work out.
Do you think this quote is awful? He has hired outside his comfort zone - so if what he is saying above is accurate - then you are okay with it, correct?