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LOL... Kadarius Toney... updated injury status

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 3:07 pm
The Giants held a walk-thru today.

The only change to the team's injury report is that Toney went from "limited" on Thursday to DNP on Friday.

This is getting more than ridiculous.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 3:07 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Giants had a walkthrough practice today so the injury report is a practice participation projection.

But one change is Kadarius Toney (hamstring) noted as a did not participate. He was listed as limited Thursday. Giants have practice again tomorrow before Monday’s game.
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Danny Kanell : 9/23/2022 3:09 pm : link
There has to be more to it with this guy. I've never seen a player play less without a legitimate injury.

I've officially seen enough. He can go.
LMAO!  
Jints in Carolina : 9/23/2022 3:10 pm : link
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Schoen must be....  
morrison40 : 9/23/2022 3:10 pm : link
shaking his head in disbelieve, bordering on amazement, re: the incompetence of his predecessors!
He played on Sunday. He'll probably play on Monday.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/23/2022 3:11 pm : link
This (whatever "this" is) is holding him back but if he's able to play on game days, I'm not going to get too worked up about it.

The bigger issue is that it looks like the lack of practice time is limiting his performance, for whatever reason. But didn't he have a big gainer called back on a questionable OPI call on another receiver last Sunday?
Toney  
Trainmaster : 9/23/2022 3:12 pm : link
China Doll 2.0

Let’s get Ronnie Barnes and his crack staff to redouble their efforts (Toney will be in a wheelchair at season’s end).

It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
BLUATHRT : 9/23/2022 3:13 pm : link
His last first round pick. Perfection!
RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
Jints in Carolina : 9/23/2022 3:15 pm : link
In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:
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His last first round pick. Perfection!


Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.
This is getting more than ridiculous  
Spider43 : 9/23/2022 3:15 pm : link
Not really... Joka's gonna' joke!
i was arguing with another Giant fan  
cjac : 9/23/2022 3:15 pm : link
in the parking lot before the game last week.

He was popping off at how great Kadarious Toney is and it hit a nerve with me. I said the guy is 18 games into his career and the one good game he had he got benched for throwing a punch.

Then after the Panther game i made sure that he got reminded of his game stats. 2 catches for zero yards.

This guy is completely fucking useless
Really frustrating  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/23/2022 3:15 pm : link
especially with what Sheppard said. This passing offense has a lot of details to it. This team was counting on both Galloday and Toney to be very big contributors.
RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
mattlawson : 9/23/2022 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.


I hope that’s not true
Does this  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/23/2022 3:20 pm : link
kid just not hydrate?
He's got to be trolling right?  
widmerseyebrow : 9/23/2022 3:21 pm : link
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.Kadarius "Al Czervik"  
Greg from LI : 9/23/2022 3:23 pm : link
Head fakes, misdirections  
Think I've Had Enough : 9/23/2022 3:24 pm : link
counter plays; Giants follow the injury posting rules with precision. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t expect sudden form reversals by the evening of the 26th. Front office, coaches, players are all pleasant enough but reveal nothing unless there’s strategy behind blabbing it. Toney is a weapon, whether one approves of his contract or not. Giants won’t get emotional about it.
imagine being a new GM  
islander1 : 9/23/2022 3:24 pm : link
and trying to build a team with your three best receivers being a 90 million dollar bust, a first round pick with a permanent hamstring injury, and a veteran who's one concussion away from forced retirement.

Oh and a first round QB who's mediocre at best.
RE: He played on Sunday. He'll probably play on Monday.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15828654 81_Great_Dane said:
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This (whatever "this" is) is holding him back but if he's able to play on game days, I'm not going to get too worked up about it.

The bigger issue is that it looks like the lack of practice time is limiting his performance, for whatever reason. But didn't he have a big gainer called back on a questionable OPI call on another receiver last Sunday?


Why would you think he would play?
RE: RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
AcidTest : 9/23/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15828666 mattlawson said:
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In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:


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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.



I hope that’s not true


If Gettleman wanted Parsons that means he opposed the trade with the Bears. But in his post draft press conference, he said he talked to Ryan Pace, the then GM of the Bears, before the draft about trading with them. I don't think he would have mentioned their conversation if he personally opposed the trade. My understanding was that the opposition to Parsons was institutional, and that the difference was that DG wanted to draft Darrisaw, not Toney, after the trade down.
Moves and counter moves  
Thegratefulhead : 9/23/2022 3:28 pm : link
Toney has no interest in football. I bet him and his boys are laughing all day, everyday.
RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
Named Later : 9/23/2022 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.


I would like to see some independent verification of this.
Toney  
AcidTest : 9/23/2022 3:28 pm : link
has a pretty long injury history in college. His body may not be able to withstand the rigors of football, especially at this level. But the end result is that little to no practice limits his knowledge of the playbook to mostly gadget plays. And that is assuming he plays, which is uncertain based on this latest information.
We’re all tired of it  
GiantSteps : 9/23/2022 3:31 pm : link
Must’ve been the cleats


In retrospect, the move back to 20 was a good one (or at least, theoretically; we have yet to see Thibs play), but if you had to pick at 20 now who would you have picked instead of Toney?
KG time?  
Payasdaddy : 9/23/2022 3:31 pm : link
be nice if our lil ole second rd pick sees the field too
not this week, maybe next
Doesn’t really matter Toney being out  
M.S. : 9/23/2022 3:32 pm : link

In the grand scheme of things.

He hasn’t added anything to the team so no big deal.

Doubt he’s here next season. Big surprise if he is.
Gettleman was horrendous  
PaulN : 9/23/2022 3:35 pm : link
But Joe Judge was a fucking joke. Don't put this all on Gettleman, he had help fucking this up. We just have to hope that Maea stays away, because if it's not obvious that this guy is no rocket scientist now, it never will be, because he signed off on all of this. He was taken on by a fucking carnival act. Joe Judge and his traveling band of misfits.
RE: RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/23/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15828678 Named Later said:
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In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:


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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.



I would like to see some independent verification of this.


You can search Dave on with Jeremiah after the Toney pick. They wanted Jamin Davis but WFT. Toney was next on the board. So they seem to have wanted LB. I thought Chris Mara made Parsons off limits.

Judge wanted to upgrade WR's. Wanted the Bama kid first (who Philly got) and then the trade down. Toney and Galloday were big Judge influences imv.
RE: RE: He played on Sunday. He'll probably play on Monday.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/23/2022 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15828673 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15828654 81_Great_Dane said:


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This (whatever "this" is) is holding him back but if he's able to play on game days, I'm not going to get too worked up about it.

The bigger issue is that it looks like the lack of practice time is limiting his performance, for whatever reason. But didn't he have a big gainer called back on a questionable OPI call on another receiver last Sunday?



Why would you think he would play?
He was on the injury report last week and played on Sunday. He looks like one of those guys who's going to be "a game-day decision" a lot of the time but is usually activated and gets on the field. But: If he doesn't practice, he can't play most of the snaps. He might be limited to just a few plays a game. Even if he's effective on those plays, the Giants need more from him than that.
Better safe than sorry  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 9/23/2022 3:36 pm : link
cause, just maybe he is really injured and the medical staff is taking appropriate precautions.

His college tape is electric, and I’m really excited to see him be great for the Giants. I am frustrated that I haven’t seen him have sustained success so far in his first year and two games. I think what would be best for the team would be for him to heal, physically, mentally, learn the playbook, get the trust of the coaches and teammates, etc., and start making plays. And be a matchup nightmare for DCs for years to come.

I want to see him on the field with Barkley at full speed, and smarter after a 2 year absence. And with Wan’Dale getting separation to make it easier for the QB to get him the ball. And with the OL continuing to gel as the season progresses so the receivers have more time to finish their routes, or go deeper. And for the game to slow down for the rookie TE, as he learns what it takes to excel at the next level.

The entire offense will develop as a unit as the season progresses. This is probably the least cohesive they will be, each week a little better.

Toney frustrates me, but I’m not angry. Patience is hard. Getting rid of him would make it a certainty to get no value from the investment.

81_Great_Dane  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 3:37 pm : link
At this point, it would probably be better to cut him and sign Alex Bachman. And Alex Bachman isn't very good.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
Named Later : 9/23/2022 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15828695 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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In comment 15828678 Named Later said:


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In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:


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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.



I would like to see some independent verification of this.



You can search Dave on with Jeremiah after the Toney pick. They wanted Jamin Davis but WFT. Toney was next on the board. So they seem to have wanted LB. I thought Chris Mara made Parsons off limits.

Judge wanted to upgrade WR's. Wanted the Bama kid first (who Philly got) and then the trade down. Toney and Galloday were big Judge influences imv.


As I recall the run-up to that Draft, Gettleman was getting all excited about DaVonta Smith, to the point of giddyness. Howie Roseman jumped him with a trade and took the kid rightr from under DG's hairy nose.

An Object Lesson about tight lips during the Draft Week.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/23/2022 3:46 pm : link
Dan Duggan
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The Giants produced a “projected” participation report today because they conducted a walk-through. WR Kadarius Toney (hamstring) was a non-participant after being limited yesterday. Not sure I’ve seen a player’s status downgraded for a projected practice.
I don't think the Giants could get a 2nd Rounder for him  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/23/2022 3:49 pm : link
...maybe someone's comp 3rd rounder. ...Maybe
RE: 81_Great_Dane  
81_Great_Dane : 9/23/2022 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15828699 Eric from BBI said:
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At this point, it would probably be better to cut him and sign Alex Bachman. And Alex Bachman isn't very good.
I'm not there yet, though I'm not exactly going to defend the guy. The Giants aren't fielding a lot of talent at the offensive skill positions, and they don't have the cap space to go get some. Sort of like their situation with Golladay: Get what you can from him this season, see if there's something to be done with training, coaching and/or motivation to get him going, and deal with the results after the season.
RE: 81_Great_Dane  
jvm52106 : 9/23/2022 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15828699 Eric from BBI said:
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At this point, it would probably be better to cut him and sign Alex Bachman. And Alex Bachman isn't very good.


See this is the problem with guys like Toney and then the fans themselves about guys like Toney. Too often glimpses and projections (or just opinions that are given the weight of facts) are used to quantify when they should only be qualifying pieces.

He is actual performances have been a mixed bag of NOTHING, to a few small area items and 1.5 games of making some legit plays. The biggest, the Boys game in Dallas last year he ends up showing his knucklehead thinking by getting thrown out of the game.

He has been injured or sick or some weird happenstance occurs for the bulk of his 1.2 seasons here. It has been a complete joke with this guy and honestly he brings very little to the table even when he does play.

The Giants should shop him to anyone (GB, TB, LAR) who want someone for a need right now and who has a locker room who can handle him for the short term.

If they get a conditional 3rd or 4th rd pick I would take it and rid him and his salary from this team. I don't want to hear about WR being a weakness and he is one of our best play makers blah blah.. There is ZERO evidence to support that beyond opinion and projection. He is a headcase, he rarely plays and eventually will be a distraction..

He didn’t practice?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2022 3:53 pm : link
That doesn’t sound like the Kadarius Toney we know at all.

Must be some mistake…please check again.
RE: I don't think the Giants could get a 2nd Rounder for him  
Danny Kanell : 9/23/2022 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15828711 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...maybe someone's comp 3rd rounder. ...Maybe


No chance at this point. The book is already out.
Da’ Yung Joka!  
trueblueinpw : 9/23/2022 3:54 pm : link
Is he at least studying the playbook?
WR still a major need  
Sean : 9/23/2022 3:55 pm : link
Nothing worse than needing a position after investing so much in said position.
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jvm52106 : 9/23/2022 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15828707 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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The Giants produced a “projected” participation report today because they conducted a walk-through. WR Kadarius Toney (hamstring) was a non-participant after being limited yesterday. Not sure I’ve seen a player’s status downgraded for a projected practice.


I actually think this is a VERY key tweet/report. I mean, think about it this way. The Giants had no need to say that, it is a walk through, Toney could easily just stand around etc. If Toney pulled some BS this is a very good way for the Giants to put it out there for all to see that Toney was not able to do a walk through..

Our new staff must be one of the best we have had EVER, to get two wins with this group of mismatched parts from the last few years of DG and last two years of Joe Judge.

I have a feeling if Robinson had not been hurt week 1,w e wouldn't have seen much of Toney in week 2..
Maybe he picked up the virus for what, the 8th time now?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2022 3:59 pm : link
I'm confused by this...  
D HOS : 9/23/2022 3:59 pm : link
They didn't have a "practice" they had a "walk through".

The injury report is "projected" which I assume means "if we had actually practiced, here is who would not have participated..."

Did Toney's injury prevent him from the walkthrough?

Or are you not able to do the walkthrough if you wouldn't also be able to be a full go in a hypothetical practice?

If he could have done the walk through but didn't, what does that signify in terms of his game preparation and availability?
Who can replace zero yds per catch ?  
averagejoe : 9/23/2022 4:02 pm : link
He is invisible in practice and he is invisible in games. How will he be missed ? Our dummy QB can only lock onto one receiver at a time. He only throws to Shepard, Stills, or Barkley . Toney won't be missed .
RE: .Kadarius  
TXRabbit : 9/23/2022 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15828670 Greg from LI said:
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lol that's perfect
JS will definitely be looking  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/23/2022 4:05 pm : link
be looking for a top WR. Here is what happened before and after Diggs in Buff.

Buff 2019 330 total yards 19.6 pts No Diggs
2020 396 31.1 Diggs 127 receptions 1530 12.3
2021 381 28.4 103 1225 11.9



Anyone on the Giants ready to fill that role?
RE: I don't think the Giants could get a 2nd Rounder for him  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 9/23/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15828711 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...maybe someone's comp 3rd rounder. ...Maybe


You honestly think some team would give us anything for a player who never plays? We are not getting anything for Toney. Surely, there are some dumb GMs, but they all seem to work for the Giants.
They should trade this guy now  
Jay on the Island : 9/23/2022 4:11 pm : link
and just take the best offer available. I would call the Packers first and see what they offered.
RE: RE: RE: It's the cherry on top of Gettleman's tenure as GM  
90.Cal : 9/23/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15828666 mattlawson said:
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In comment 15828659 Jints in Carolina said:


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In comment 15828657 BLUATHRT said:


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His last first round pick. Perfection!



Apparently Gettleman wanted Parsons....Judge was the one who wanted Toney.



I hope that’s not true


1st time hearing that. Makes no sense. Judge is no GM, shouldn't have been given HC powers how TF would he have GM powers. Gettleman drafted this bum. Yung Joka fits the DeAndre Baker mold IMO.
What team would trade for a player  
M.S. : 9/23/2022 4:17 pm : link

Who’s never available?
With an apology to Falco...  
Klaatu : 9/23/2022 4:17 pm : link
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, where's Kadarius?

He was a 1st Round pick from a year ago,
Supposed to be a Human Joystick, getting paid lots of dough.
Although he's flashed a few times, it's been few and far between,
And he's spent more time with trainers than with guys on the team.

Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, where's Kadarius?

Is his heart just not in it, or are his ailments legit?
Is his rapping more important and he'd much rather sit?
Would he rather top the charts instead of playing this sport?
So far the only he's topped has been the Injury Report.

Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, uh oh,
Kadarius not there-ius, uh oh, where's Kadarius?
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