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Micah Parsons/Evan Neal

nyjuggernaut2 : 9/24/2022 9:51 am
Can't wait to see this matchup on Monday night. Time for Evan Neal to step up and show why he was the top OT taken in the draft. Funny to think these two could have been teammates had the Giants decided not to trade down in the 2021 draft.

I like Neal’s  
Ron Johnson : 9/24/2022 9:55 am : link
Chances better in the run game than in pass protection
He Wasn’t The Top OT Taken  
Trainmaster : 9/24/2022 9:56 am : link
Ekwonu was taken one spot before by the Panthers.

RE: I like Neal’s  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/24/2022 9:56 am : link
In comment 15829130 Ron Johnson said:
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Chances better in the run game than in pass protection


I hope I’m wrong but I don’t like the matchup in pass pro.
Neal wasn't the first OT taken in the 2022 draft  
Hammer : 9/24/2022 9:57 am : link
Ekwonu was.
Good video on Neal.  
Tom the Giants fan. : 9/24/2022 9:58 am : link
Love the maturity. I expect him to him to be a multiple Pro Bowler.

This time I spelled his name right. Never a good idea to have a couple of drinks and post on BBI. Lesson learned. LOL!
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Would the Giants have drafted Neal without the pick from the Bears?  
Ivan15 : 9/24/2022 10:06 am : link
Only if they valued Neal over Thibideau and Ekwonu.
Neal hasn’t been good  
armstead98 : 9/24/2022 10:17 am : link
He’s off balance, ends up on the ground too much, but when he keeps his balance and locks on he’s great.

Giants will need to give him help on Parsons and hope AT can handle him 1 on 1 when he’s lined up over there.
AT  
Toth029 : 9/24/2022 10:36 am : link
Handled him last year.
Much better having Evan Neal run block Micah Parsons  
M.S. : 9/24/2022 10:45 am : link

than Evan Neal trying to pass block against him.

Evan Neal is a young developing player who needs to make his mistakes before he becomes a fully dependable pass blocker. His education continues Monday Night with Micah Parsons as a very strict instructor.
I like Neal, but I don't think he's ready to take on Parsons. He'll  
Ira : 9/24/2022 10:48 am : link
need help.
RE: Would the Giants have drafted Neal without the pick from the Bears?  
k2tampa : 9/24/2022 10:49 am : link
In comment 15829147 Ivan15 said:
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Only if they valued Neal over Thibideau and Ekwonu.


And who knows where they would have been picking if they had had Parsons.
Parsons will get 1 sack off of Neal  
Simms11 : 9/24/2022 10:50 am : link
IMO and maybe a few more pressures. AT can handle him. I'd like to see Neal put Lawrence's ass on the ground in the run game however!
so far nobody in the nfl has proven they can handle parsons  
GiantsFan84 : 9/24/2022 10:55 am : link
whichever giants OL ends up on parsons is in for a long night
So far Evan Neal has played as I expected him to  
arniefez : 9/24/2022 10:57 am : link
he's shown reason to be excited about what he can be in year 2 and beyond but he's a rookie OT who has to perfect his fundamentals to reach his potential. Right now Parsons will take advantage of him at times. Hopefully the Giants OC is ready for that.
RE: RE: Would the Giants have drafted Neal without the pick from the Bears?  
ZoneXDOA : 9/24/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15829180 k2tampa said:
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In comment 15829147 Ivan15 said:


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Only if they valued Neal over Thibideau and Ekwonu.

We would’ve picked in the same spot. We still had Judge as a HC and clown of the week at OC.

And who knows where they would have been picking if they had had Parsons.
RE: Neal hasn’t been good  
Gmen703 : 9/24/2022 11:14 am : link
In comment 15829152 armstead98 said:
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He’s off balance, ends up on the ground too much, but when he keeps his balance and locks on he’s great.

Giants will need to give him help on Parsons and hope AT can handle him 1 on 1 when he’s lined up over there.


He looks like a rookie. He'll need to dig deep to fend off Parsons. Barkley will need to be at the top of his pass protection game as well.
Uhhhhh  
ZoneXDOA : 9/24/2022 11:18 am : link
Somehow I put my comment just after the original quote and just before the comment I was replying to. Apologies if there is confusion! 🤦🏽‍♂️
RE: RE: Neal hasn’t been good  
ZoneXDOA : 9/24/2022 11:28 am : link
In comment 15829201 Gmen703 said:
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In comment 15829152 armstead98 said:


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He’s off balance, ends up on the ground too much, but when he keeps his balance and locks on he’s great.

Giants will need to give him help on Parsons and hope AT can handle him 1 on 1 when he’s lined up over there.



He looks like a rookie. He'll need to dig deep to fend off Parsons. Barkley will need to be at the top of his pass protection game as well.


Offensive Tackle (and OL in general) might be the toughest position in the NFL to adjust to as a rookie. Look at AT’s rookie year. Much like Neal, he flashed but lots of people weren’t impressed. He’s gotten consistently better every game and now he’s listed as PFF’s top OL. Neal will get there. Players get drafted high because of their physical attributes, work ethic, attitude and, of course, production. At least those are the factors that need to be considered heavily imo. Schoen seems really good at all of that. I trust Neal will grow to match AT and be a perennial pro bowler for us
I don’t think Dallas is going to waste much time  
BSIMatt : 9/24/2022 11:39 am : link
Sending Parsons at Thomas. He started off going v Wirfs in the Tampa game and Wirfs handled him, and then he proceeded to attack their left tackles(he had reps/sack against starter at LT and also backup LT after starter left due to injury).

If they do I’ll be happy as I’m not worried about Thomas. Obviously it would be a great, great matchup.

Neal has elite tools but he’s still getting his footing whereas Parsons is on fire right now so this will be a fun opportunity for Neal to test himself. Hoping Azeez and KT were able to give Neal some good looks this week. Getting reps vs Burns a week ago had to help.Parsons has been winning quite often with his inside move due to tackles overcompensating to the outside to negate his elite speed. I think this is where the game within the game for Neal will take place; his counters to Parsons inside move. Don’t reach, keep that left hand back for a late stab. Neal anchoring vs Parsons speed to power will be interesting to watch.
RE: so far nobody in the nfl has proven they can handle parsons  
Toth029 : 9/24/2022 11:45 am : link
In comment 15829184 GiantsFan84 said:
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whichever giants OL ends up on parsons is in for a long night


This is absurd.

He had no sacks vs Giants last year and in the second game, which AT played, he had just an assisted tackle.

His sacks vs Tampa came on a play versus Donovan Smith who got hurt and their backup. Wirfs swallowed him.
RE: RE: I like Neal’s  
JohnG in Albany : 9/24/2022 11:45 am : link
In comment 15829134 Mdgiantsfan said:
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In comment 15829130 Ron Johnson said:


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Chances better in the run game than in pass protection



I hope I’m wrong but I don’t like the matchup in pass pro.



I'm not liking this matchup for the Giants at this point.
Neal  
JerseyCityJoe : 9/24/2022 11:58 am : link
The kid is going to need help.
RE: I like Neal’s  
cokeduplt : 9/24/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15829130 Ron Johnson said:
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Chances better in the run game than in pass protection



He looked pretty bad in the run game last week. He was better in pass protection .
RE: so far nobody in the nfl has proven they can handle parsons  
cokeduplt : 9/24/2022 12:26 pm : link
In comment 15829184 GiantsFan84 said:
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whichever giants OL ends up on parsons is in for a long night



Thomas can handle him.
RE: RE: so far nobody in the nfl has proven they can handle parsons  
JohnG in Albany : 9/24/2022 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15829266 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 15829184 GiantsFan84 said:


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whichever giants OL ends up on parsons is in for a long night




Thomas can handle him.


Parsons has been killing everyone.

But given the current disparity in pass pro between Neal and Thomas, I would certainly expect to see Parsons lined up against Neal in many passing situations.

RE: so far nobody in the nfl has proven they can handle parsons  
BSIMatt : 9/24/2022 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15829184 GiantsFan84 said:
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whichever giants OL ends up on parsons is in for a long night


This is wrong. Parsons has had a lot of feasting on bad tackles. He absolutely destroys bad tackles. I’m not saying he hasn’t beaten the good tackles one on one, but Dallas is interested in finding best matchups for him, not proving how good he is by giving him a contest vs the other teams top OT. When Wirfs was handling Parons Dallas proceeded to find the better matchup on the left side for Parsons, which is exactly what they should do. Just like passing attacks try to isolate the weak link in your secondary, DCs want to give their pass rushed the best matchups they can.
One of the bigger factors on Parsons impact is Daniel Jones himself  
BSIMatt : 9/24/2022 2:36 pm : link
Jones has been under pressure, but fans may not realize he is second in the entire nfl in time to throw. Jones has to speed up his decision making and get the ball out quicker. He’s been holding it a bit too long imo.(I’m sure our cast of “receivers” probably isn’t helping all that much).
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