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Official Injury Report: Four Out, Two Doubtful

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2022 2:06 pm
GIANTS GAME STATUSES

Out:
CB Justin Layne (Concussion)
CB Nick McCloud (Hamstring)
CB Aaron Robinson (Appendix)
WR Wan’Dale Robinson (Knee)

Doubtful:
WR Kadarius Toney (Hamstring)
DL Leonard Williams (Knee)

Questionable:
OLB Azeez Ojulari (Calf)
OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux (Knee)
Toney is Sammy Watkins  
jvm52106 : 9/24/2022 2:15 pm : link
Without the production.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2022 2:20 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Toney's been chasing that performance in Dallas ever since, and the further we get from that game, the more you have to treat it as an outlier.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2022 2:24 pm : link
COWBOYS GAME STATUSES

Questionable:
DT Quinton Bohanna (Neck)
WR Michael Gallup (Knee)
LB Micah Parsons (Illness)
TE Dalton Schultz (Knee)

Out:
S Jayron Kearse (Knee)
G Connor McGovern (Ankle)
QB Dak Prescott (Right Thumb)
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2022 2:26 pm : link
Color me shocked that KT89 is doubtful.
RE: ...  
Scooter185 : 9/24/2022 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15829331 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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5m
Toney's been chasing that performance in Dallas ever since, and the further we get from that game, the more you have to treat it as an outlier.


And at some point you have to stop chasing after the outlier
With Micah Hyde out for season  
nym172 : 9/24/2022 2:49 pm : link
I expect bills to come for tony jefferson.

Giatns need to sign him to the roster now. Let go of phillips perhaps.
Agree with this giants need more DL.  
nym172 : 9/24/2022 3:01 pm : link
Giants don't have to make their moves (PS elevations, etc.) until 4 p.m. Monday.

What I would do:

IR Layne and McCloud (already out for Monday, would be three additional games)

Sign S Tony Jefferson and CB Fabian Moreau to the 53.

PS elevation: Jaylon Smith, Henry Mondeaux
RE: Agree with this giants need more DL.  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 9/24/2022 3:39 pm : link
In comment 15829359 nym172 said:
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Giants don't have to make their moves (PS elevations, etc.) until 4 p.m. Monday.

What I would do:

IR Layne and McCloud (already out for Monday, would be three additional games)

Sign S Tony Jefferson and CB Fabian Moreau to the 53.

PS elevation: Jaylon Smith, Henry Mondeaux


Good ideas, Or maybe Ryder Anderson?
Defense  
armstead98 : 9/24/2022 3:49 pm : link
Really excited to see this defense with some elite pass rushers. Defense has already been good but could be about to get fun.

Hopefully Leo is good to go in a few weeks.
Would have  
darren in pdx : 9/24/2022 3:50 pm : link
thought Williams would be listed as out.

Toney’s days with the Giants are numbered  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/24/2022 3:58 pm : link
New regime wants tough, smart and dependable and Toney is an acronym of all of those characteristics. WR now becomes top priority this off-season.
RE: Defense  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/24/2022 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15829387 armstead98 said:
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Really excited to see this defense with some elite pass rushers. Defense has already been good but could be about to get fun.

Hopefully Leo is good to go in a few weeks.


I would not expect too much right off of the bat... both of these guys missed most of the summer. Remember, they were hurt before they got hurt again.
RE: ...  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/24/2022 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15829333 Eric from BBI said:
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COWBOYS GAME STATUSES

Questionable:
DT Quinton Bohanna (Neck)
WR Michael Gallup (Knee)
LB Micah Parsons (Illness)
TE Dalton Schultz (Knee)

Out:
S Jayron Kearse (Knee)
G Connor McGovern (Ankle)
QB Dak Prescott (Right Thumb)


How is Schultz questionable? Doesn’t he have the same injury that Thibs has?
Just to underscore the fading relevance of Toney's big game in Dallas:  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/24/2022 4:02 pm : link
Eric from BBI said:
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@art_stapleton
Toney's been chasing that performance in Dallas ever since, and the further we get from that game, the more you have to treat it as an outlier.

Kadarius Toney vs. Dallas Oct.10, 2021:
13 targets, 10 receptions, 189 yards, 0 TDs in a blowout loss.

Richie James vs. Green Bay Nov.5, 2020:
13 targets, 9 receptions, 184 yards, 1 TD in a blowout loss.

Marcus Johnson sits on the practice squad with three times as many career 100-yard games as Toney.

I'm not writing Toney off yet, though. One more weapon would give a tremendous boost to this offense, and Toney is one of the few players who could conceivably be that guy.
I'm not  
BigBlueinDE : 9/24/2022 4:17 pm : link
writing Toney off either, but it sure seems that Toney is writing himself off.
RE: RE: Defense  
armstead98 : 9/24/2022 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15829394 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15829387 armstead98 said:


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Really excited to see this defense with some elite pass rushers. Defense has already been good but could be about to get fun.

Hopefully Leo is good to go in a few weeks.



I would not expect too much right off of the bat... both of these guys missed most of the summer. Remember, they were hurt before they got hurt again.


I’m expecting Azeez to make an impact pretty quickly. I bet he’s limited to 25% of snaps or so but enough to make a big play or two.
I'm not a Toney apologist BUT  
Dave on the UWS : 9/24/2022 4:40 pm : link
he played through a hamstring injury last week. It has to be sore as hell this week. He tried to practice on it, but couldn't go. To me, that is NOT someone who is dogging it. Now, if you want to talk about him being always hurt, that's a different kettle of fish.
RE: Would have  
Matt123 : 9/24/2022 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15829389 darren in pdx said:
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thought Williams would be listed as out.


I thought the same. Hopefully means he's not too far away.

She  
thrunthrublue : 9/24/2022 6:25 pm : link
Disappoints.
RE: RE: ...  
santacruzom : 9/24/2022 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15829341 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15829331 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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5m
Toney's been chasing that performance in Dallas ever since, and the further we get from that game, the more you have to treat it as an outlier.



And at some point you have to stop chasing after the outlier


Chasing outliers is like a Giants fan modus operandi.
why not IR Toney?  
kelly : 9/24/2022 8:17 pm : link
he is after all always hurt.

At least next year he will be healthy and maybe someone will give us a 6th round pick for him.
RE: I'm not a Toney apologist BUT  
GruningsOnTheHill : 9/24/2022 8:18 pm : link
In comment 15829427 Dave on the UWS said:
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he played through a hamstring injury last week. It has to be sore as hell this week. He tried to practice on it, but couldn't go. To me, that is NOT someone who is dogging it. Now, if you want to talk about him being always hurt, that's a different kettle of fish.

Plus he was wide open quite a bit last week.
Not sure what anyone expects from the Joka?  
trueblueinpw : 9/24/2022 8:36 pm : link
He’s injured. People think he’s making that up?
RE: She  
Joey in VA : 9/24/2022 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15829506 thrunthrublue said:
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Disappoints.
Can we knock off the overt sexism? She means he's a girl and girls are inherently weak. It's 2022 can we cut the shit?
They  
fkap : 9/24/2022 11:11 pm : link
disappoint.

there. 2022 style. Grammatically wrong, but still gaining use.
Receiver should never be a priority position for the Giants.  
Reese's Pieces : 9/25/2022 1:26 am : link
Have you followed the team? Only "star" receiver the team had in its four Super Bowl runs was Plax.

Guys like Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Hakeem Nicks, David Tyree, Mario Manningham have made the big plays and been out of football two years later.

What the passing game needs is a pocket for the QB that lasts four or five seconds.
RE: RE: She  
section125 : 9/25/2022 3:14 am : link
In comment 15829614 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 15829506 thrunthrublue said:

It's 2022 can we cut the shit?


Suggest you take your own advice...cut the shit.
how often  
The Jake : 9/25/2022 7:46 am : link
are early season hamstring injuries a result of poor off season prep/training/fitness?

answer: almost always.

Toney doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because he’s gone out of his way to show us how football isn’t the priority in his life. this is what happens.
RE: Receiver should never be a priority position for the Giants.  
The Jake : 9/25/2022 7:48 am : link
In comment 15829640 Reese's Pieces said:
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Have you followed the team? Only "star" receiver the team had in its four Super Bowl runs was Plax.

Guys like Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Hakeem Nicks, David Tyree, Mario Manningham have made the big plays and been out of football two years later.

What the passing game needs is a pocket for the QB that lasts four or five seconds.


LOL! elite QBs in this league get the ball out between 2 and 3 seconds.

sounds like you want to build the Great Wall of China to give Daniel Jones extra special protection? how about - find an elite QB instead?
RE: I'm not a Toney apologist BUT  
Dave : 9/25/2022 7:51 am : link
In comment 15829427 Dave on the UWS said:
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he played through a hamstring injury last week. It has to be sore as hell this week. He tried to practice on it, but couldn't go. To me, that is NOT someone who is dogging it. Now, if you want to talk about him being always hurt, that's a different kettle of fish.

Agree
.  
winoguy : 9/25/2022 7:59 am : link
Toney the Phoney.
RE: RE: I'm not a Toney apologist BUT  
csb : 9/25/2022 9:21 am : link
In comment 15829674 Dave said:
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In comment 15829427 Dave on the UWS said:


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he played through a hamstring injury last week. It has to be sore as hell this week. He tried to practice on it, but couldn't go. To me, that is NOT someone who is dogging it. Now, if you want to talk about him being always hurt, that's a different kettle of fish.


Agree


I think the challenge here is that he practiced this week until Thursday and then missed the walk through. Maybe his hammy is giving him trouble; you have to wonder if he chose not to practice because he discovered that he wasn't going to be a big part of the game plan this week. We know that KG was told mid-week that he wouldn't be starting last week, maybe KT was told something similar and decided to milk the injury for the week.

Who the hell knows what the truth is, we all see unbelievable potential when he's involved but it is becoming tougher to defend Toney these days. Too many odd situations and not enough production.
RE: RE: She  
Festina Lente : 9/25/2022 9:27 am : link
In comment 15829614 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 15829506 thrunthrublue said:


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Disappoints.

Can we knock off the overt sexism? She means he's a girl and girls are inherently weak. It's 2022 can we cut the shit?

🙄
I just dont understand what Judge and Gettleman  
Bleedblue10 : 9/25/2022 10:22 am : link
saw in Toney to make him a first round pick. It's not all about talent this guy won't be in the league in a few years mark my words. He doesn't have the want to and is always hurt(which I think has more to do with the first issue than his body). Shame cause hes electric with the ball in his hands. All year it's gonna be the same shit with him. Play one game miss two, play three games out for the season. Giants should just IR him now
RE: Receiver should never be a priority position for the Giants.  
Dr. D : 9/25/2022 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15829640 Reese's Pieces said:
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Have you followed the team? Only "star" receiver the team had in its four Super Bowl runs was Plax.

Guys like Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Hakeem Nicks, David Tyree, Mario Manningham have made the big plays and been out of football two years later.

What the passing game needs is a pocket for the QB that lasts four or five seconds.

Nicks and Cruz didn't have long careers (due to injuries), but they were both stars in 2011. Nicks was a 1st rd pick. Cruz was a great UDFA find, kind of an anomaly.

We need good pass pro AND a couple decent receivers. Look at Josh Allen and the Bills, before and after Diggs.

It's not 1986 anymore (and that team had Bavaro).
RE: Receiver should never be a priority position for the Giants.  
Matt M. : 9/25/2022 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15829640 Reese's Pieces said:
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Have you followed the team? Only "star" receiver the team had in its four Super Bowl runs was Plax.

Guys like Stephen Baker, Mark Ingram, Hakeem Nicks, David Tyree, Mario Manningham have made the big plays and been out of football two years later.

What the passing game needs is a pocket for the QB that lasts four or five seconds.
Nicks and Cruz were both stars whose careers were cut short due to injury. Even Smith was a star.
Nicks  
darren in pdx : 9/25/2022 5:30 pm : link
was becoming close to a Top 3 WR in the league. He should have been connecting with Eli for years. Same with Steve Smith JR. Giants luck with injuries to their star WRs has been a tragedy since Plax.
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