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NFT: DeGrom Day! Mets vs A's Game 2

allstarjim : 9/24/2022 3:32 pm
Mets:

LF McNeil
CF Canha
SS Lindor
1B Alonso
3B Escobar
RF Ruf
2B Guillorme
DH Vientos
C Nido

P DeGrom


LGM!
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Items of note:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 3:39 pm : link
(Ya beat me to the thread!)

-Nimmo is not playing today; Canha is in his place in CF and Jeff McNeil is batting leadoff and playing LF
-Luis G is starting at 2B
-Nido is catching (as expected after McCann played less than 24 hours ago).
-Ruf is in RF again and Vientos is DHing due the the left-handed starters this entire series.



Starting Lineups and pitchers for September 24, 2022 - Mets @ A's - 4:07 pm EST start

Superman's on the mound...


Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - 9.24.22 - Mets @ A's - 4:07 PM EST

Braves and Phillies are playing around the same time the Mets and A's are, so we'll have both games to keep track of.

#LFGM!
Gotta win the next 4  
Snablats : 9/24/2022 3:40 pm : link
Guarantees going to Atlanta up at least 2 games
For the A's  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 3:44 pm : link
LF Tony Kemp
3B Vimael Machín
DH Sean Murphy
CF Seth Brown
1B Dermis Garcia
RF Conner Capel
C Shea Langeliers
2B Jordan Diaz
SS Nick Allen

P Ken Waldichuk

Kyle Wright pitching for the Braves @ Phillies today, with Bailey Falter going for the Philthies.
was more mets than A's fans there last nite  
Payasdaddy : 9/24/2022 3:52 pm : link
sat in a cluster of around 30 of them
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 4:11 pm : link
Box Score - mlb.com - 9/24/22 - Mets @ A's


Mets @ Athletics - 9/24/22 - 4:07 pm EST start - TV: SNY Feed (Gary & Ron) - ( New Window )
Here are links to today's Braves-Phillies game going on now:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 4:17 pm : link
Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - 9/24/22 - Braves at Phillies - 4:05 pm EST start

Braves @ Phillies - 9/24/22 - TV Feed: Braves

Braves @ Phillies - 9/24/22 - TV Feed: Phillies



3-0  
KevinBBWC : 9/24/2022 4:21 pm : link
Alonso bomb.
Great start. Keep it going guys  
Ira : 9/24/2022 4:22 pm : link
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Baseball is so much better to watch  
bhill410 : 9/24/2022 4:23 pm : link
When your team has a three run lead.
What a start!  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 4:25 pm : link
Just what the Mets need. Walker, Carrasco, and Marte are back in NY now they just said on the broadcast I think.
Degrom looking human today  
bhill410 : 9/24/2022 4:34 pm : link
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Braves are leading the Phillies 1-0 now in the top of the 2nd.  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 4:36 pm : link
Here are their remaining opponents:
Ugh mcniel  
bhill410 : 9/24/2022 4:38 pm : link
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McNeil falls down  
KevinBBWC : 9/24/2022 4:39 pm : link
A's scored two. DeGrom ready to kill Angel Hernandez.
angel hernaandez  
KDubbs : 9/24/2022 4:40 pm : link
shouldnt even be an ump anymore. what a fucking clown
Degrom getting  
bhill410 : 9/24/2022 4:42 pm : link
Crushed. Mcniel should have had him out of inning at 1 run but that was still a bullet.
RE: angel hernaandez  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 4:42 pm : link
In comment 15829429 KDubbs said:
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shouldnt even be an ump anymore. what a fucking clown


Jake was getting into it with him.
Gotta pick Jake up  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2022 4:43 pm : link
time to put up another 9 spot this game.
McNeil's  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 4:47 pm : link
Teammates are going to be merciless for that line drive to left field.

I couldn't help but laugh.

It's only funny if you win the game, though.

It seems to me that deGrom has been fighting his slider for multiple starts now, and it doesn't look like it has quite the bite that it did in his first start or two coming off the IL. It's still a good pitch, but maybe not quite as devastating.
I was afraid of something like this after last start  
Vanzetti : 9/24/2022 4:49 pm : link
Jake was obviously done after 6 but Buck had in his mind that he had to go 7. No doubt to rest the bullpen

Why you would push a guy who recovered from a stress fracture when he was obviously tiring is beyond me.

If they do an MRI and find the stress fracture is returned Cohen ought to fire everyone involved in the decision to push Degrom.

He is an 80-85 pitch pitcher this season. That's what he is and usually its enough to shut down the opponent for 6. So just accept it. He is so dominant in most cases it won't matter.
Vientos first career shot  
KevinBBWC : 9/24/2022 4:49 pm : link
opposite field bomb.
RE: Vientos first career shot  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15829436 KevinBBWC said:
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opposite field bomb.


That was a big boy homer! Awesome for Mark to get career #1! First of many!
Every time deGrom has had one of these games in the last few years  
Snablats : 9/24/2022 5:03 pm : link
His next start is pushed back, then he ends up on the DL and we don't see him for months
Wow  
Vanzetti : 9/24/2022 5:05 pm : link
Vientos has terrific power the other way

He might wind up kicking Ruf off the postseason roster
Yup. Something wrong with Jake  
Vanzetti : 9/24/2022 5:09 pm : link
Get him out

Could be the stress fracture
Vientos' homer was 106 mph  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2022 5:09 pm : link
this series set up very well for the break out. almost as well as june/july set up for what should have been his call up to see if he could legitimately factor in this year.

he now has 2 more extra base hits than Darrin Ruf since August 12th.
Yikes  
moze1021 : 9/24/2022 5:13 pm : link
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RE: Every time deGrom has had one of these games in the last few years  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15829444 Snablats said:
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His next start is pushed back, then he ends up on the DL and we don't see him for months


Oh shut up. His last start of last year he pitched 7 innings, 10 Ks, and 2 ER.

You're full of it, man.
RE: Yup. Something wrong with Jake  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15829448 Vanzetti said:
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Get him out

Could be the stress fracture


Wild conjecture.
Tomorrow's starting pitcher matchup:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:27 pm : link
RE: Vientos' homer was 106 mph  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:29 pm : link
In comment 15829449 Eric on Li said:
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this series set up very well for the break out. almost as well as june/july set up for what should have been his call up to see if he could legitimately factor in this year.

he now has 2 more extra base hits than Darrin Ruf since August 12th.


Do you have the distance on that HR?
NL East standings as of the start of the day today:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:33 pm : link
Wow!  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:36 pm : link
Alonzo the savior! Saved 2 runs, like Gary said. I hate to say this, but I've seen enough of deGrom today. Trevor Williams was throwing on the side. I'm assuming Buck brings him in to start the 5th.
RE: RE: Vientos' homer was 106 mph  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2022 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15829470 allstarjim said:
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this series set up very well for the break out. almost as well as june/july set up for what should have been his call up to see if he could legitimately factor in this year.

he now has 2 more extra base hits than Darrin Ruf since August 12th.



Do you have the distance on that HR?

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@would_it_dong
Mark Vientos vs Ken Waldichuk
#LGM

Home Run 💣

Exit velo: 106 mph
Launch angle: 26 deg
Proj. distance: 394 ft

No doubt about that one 🔒
That's a dinger in all 30 MLB ballparks

Angel Hernandez is an asshole.  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:39 pm : link
I don't like to talk balls and strikes often, but this is too much. He's incompetent.
Jake is looking mortal  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:42 pm : link
But he's had a little bit of luck in recent starts. I've noticed him get hit pretty hard recently, even if those balls turned into outs (remember Nimmo's HR saving catch).

To me he's been struggling with his control, particularly with the slider. It could be his mechanics are just off. But he's so good that on most days, even when he's off he still has a really good start for most pitchers.

Today's stuff is not any different than the last several starts. What is different is that the hard hit balls went for hits today, and he wasn't able to get the big strikeout with runners on to get him out of trouble.

A start like today... you could almost see coming.

Game is still very much winnable though.

What does Jake need to do? Exactly what he did the last couple of innings, start to mix in his other pitches more. More curveballs and changeups.
Braves are up 6-0 in Philly in the Bottom of the 4th.  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:43 pm : link
Looks unlikely that the Phils are gonna gives any more help today, like they have the previous two.
RE: RE: RE: Vientos' homer was 106 mph  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15829476 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15829470 allstarjim said:


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In comment 15829449 Eric on Li said:


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this series set up very well for the break out. almost as well as june/july set up for what should have been his call up to see if he could legitimately factor in this year.

he now has 2 more extra base hits than Darrin Ruf since August 12th.



Do you have the distance on that HR?




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@would_it_dong
Mark Vientos vs Ken Waldichuk
#LGM

Home Run 💣

Exit velo: 106 mph
Launch angle: 26 deg
Proj. distance: 394 ft

No doubt about that one 🔒
That's a dinger in all 30 MLB ballparks





Nice, thanks Eric.
DeGrom  
five5 : 9/24/2022 5:44 pm : link
He has given up more hard contact on his fastball this year than previous ones combined. He still touches 100 on occasion but the lack of swing and misses is very concerning.
Williams  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:46 pm : link
Left that middle-middle.
that lineout to alonso was 108 mph and a .660 xba  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2022 5:46 pm : link
so that was a big play by alonso.

bats are going to have to keep mashing today.
Oh well..even if they lose today..  
moze1021 : 9/24/2022 5:46 pm : link
Win 2 of every 3 blocks of games for rest of the year and they clinch the division.

LFGM
RE: RE: Every time deGrom has had one of these games in the last few years  
Snablats : 9/24/2022 5:47 pm : link
In comment 15829460 allstarjim said:
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His next start is pushed back, then he ends up on the DL and we don't see him for months



Oh shut up. His last start of last year he pitched 7 innings, 10 Ks, and 2 ER.

You're full of it, man.

Sorry if you're bothered by the truth
RE: DeGrom  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:48 pm : link
In comment 15829483 five5 said:
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He has given up more hard contact on his fastball this year than previous ones combined. He still touches 100 on occasion but the lack of swing and misses is very concerning.


Agreed. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Jake having more movement on that FB. Lately it's had plenty of velo; 98-102, but it seems to be more straight.

A straight 4-seamer a ML hitter will time it, doesn't matter how hard you throw.
deGrom's pitching line today:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:49 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: Every time deGrom has had one of these games in the last few years  
allstarjim : 9/24/2022 5:49 pm : link
In comment 15829488 Snablats said:
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In comment 15829444 Snablats said:


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His next start is pushed back, then he ends up on the DL and we don't see him for months



Oh shut up. His last start of last year he pitched 7 innings, 10 Ks, and 2 ER.

You're full of it, man.


Sorry if you're bothered by the truth


The truth! I proved you wrong definitively, dude. You're just talking out of your ass, per usual.
RE: deGrom's pitching line today:  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2022 5:51 pm : link
In comment 15829491 Optimus-NY said:
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it looked like he was struggling with his release point and obviously he was pissed at some of the calls.

they also put him in a position he's not practiced in having to try to pitch with a lead of more than 1 run.
DeGrom  
five5 : 9/24/2022 5:55 pm : link
We all know how great he has been the last several years. That being said, he needs to be treated with kid gloves. He has become a 5-6 inning pitcher who tends to miss a significant amount of time which makes it difficult for the entire rotation. He hasn’t had his fastball the last few starts which is very alarming with the playoffs around the corner.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Every time deGrom has had one of these games in the last few years  
Snablats : 9/24/2022 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15829492 allstarjim said:
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In comment 15829460 allstarjim said:


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His next start is pushed back, then he ends up on the DL and we don't see him for months



Oh shut up. His last start of last year he pitched 7 innings, 10 Ks, and 2 ER.

You're full of it, man.


Sorry if you're bothered by the truth



The truth! I proved you wrong definitively, dude. You're just talking out of your ass, per usual.

No you just can't comprehend English. I never said the last time he went to the DL was after a start like this
RE: RE: deGrom's pitching line today:  
Optimus-NY : 9/24/2022 5:59 pm : link
In comment 15829493 Eric on Li said:
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it looked like he was struggling with his release point and obviously he was pissed at some of the calls.

they also put him in a position he's not practiced in having to try to pitch with a lead of more than 1 run.


I thought Hernandez threw him off his game a bit with his wild strike-zone.
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