The simple truth is we are frustrated because he does not play and we do know he has great potential. We have seen it as recently as last week when he made an unbelievable move on the play that was called back.
That is all we KNOW. He has great potential and does not play enough.
As far as I know
We do not know that he does not care enough about the team.
We do not know that he does not prioritize football.
We do not know the extent and affect of his injury(s).
We do not know he has not picked up the offense.
Are you insiders that know these things or simply frustrated fans who are swinging at air?
At some time you move on from players that cannot stay on the field - I don't think we are anywhere near that point, but we don't know what is happening behind the scenes.
A question for those who want to get rid of him.
What would be the least you would take?
A future draft pick - what round?
Would you just release him if we can't make a trade?
He’s selfish individual who doesn’t care about his teammates. I hope somebody on our team straightens his sorry ass out.
Fair enough view. Practice, Play, Produce and he is 0-3. That said, I am not sure he is a "selfish individual who does not care about his teammates". Time will tell.
I'm sure the Giants would have already put Toney on IR if they thought that was the best course of action. Trading him is not really an option this year because of the salary cap hit, and we wouldn't get much in return. It's better just to keep him.
I do agree that if he plays very little this year that he might be cut in the offseason. As a first round pick, even from a former regime, he will be given a lot of consideration. But that consideration isn't limitless. My own view is that Jones, Shepard, Slayton, and Golladay will be gone next year. I'm a little less sure now about Barkley and Sills given what they've done in the first two games. Toney might be gone as well, but like Golladay, he's here to stay this year. He's an electrifying player at a position where we are very thin. Let's allow this to play out the rest of the season before making a final decision.
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I can't believe some of you guys are *still* doing this.
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Bingo. And Toney has been showing us since the start. He's not long for this team.
Always the possibility that that's wrong and we'll see a talented Toney contributing, but that gets increasingly unlikely.
It worked out for him, eventually (before he self distracted). I see a lot of OBJ in Toney. I hope things work out for him and the team.
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It worked out for him, eventually (before he self distracted). I see a lot of OBJ in Toney. I hope things work out for him and the team.
I don't see Odell in Toney at all. Odell was almost passionate about football to a fault. At some points, he cared *too* much and acted like a dope because of it... the Carolina game, the kicking net, etc.
Odell made gigantic impacts in games early and often in his career. All we're talking about with Toney is what he "could be" because we almost never see it on a football field in games that matter.
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It worked out for him, eventually (before he self distracted). I see a lot of OBJ in Toney. I hope things work out for him and the team.
I don't see Odell in Toney at all. Odell was almost passionate about football to a fault. At some points, he cared *too* much and acted like a dope because of it... the Carolina game, the kicking net, etc.
Odell made gigantic impacts in games early and often in his career. All we're talking about with Toney is what he "could be" because we almost never see it on a football field in games that matter.
Toney is NOTHING like Odell. Odell cared and actually produced. Toney has done neither of those two things. Monumental bust he probably will be cut after this season.
Maybe if he grew his eyebrows back it would help. I mean, WTF!