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NFT: Mets @ A's - Game 3: Scherzer

Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 4:19 pm
Nimmo is back in the lineup today and playing CF; Ruf is at 1B; Naquin is in Rf (thank God); Alonso is DHing; Nido is catching; McNeil is back at 2B; Luis G is not paying today (hope he's ok after getting hit yesterday and exiting the game)



Starting lineups and pitchers for Mets at A's today

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Here are links for today's game:

Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - Mets @ A's - 9.25.22 - 4:07 pm EST


Mets @ Athletics - 9/25/22 - 4:07 pm EST start - TV: WPIX Feed (Gary & Ron) - ( New Window )
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Phillies are up 6-5 in the Bottom of the 5th in Philly in a rain delay  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 4:24 pm : link
Braves at Phillies - 9/25/22 - TV: Phillies feed

Braves at Phillies - 9/25/22 - TV: Braves feed


Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - Braves @ Phillies - 9/25/22 - ( New Window )
i get not playing ruf in RF but i dont get playing him over vientos  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 4:33 pm : link
but i've not gotten that for a month now.
I guess  
spike : 9/25/2022 4:34 pm : link
Ruf is a better defender at 1B than Vientos.
Vientos is playing as the DH  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 4:36 pm : link
He just failed to get a runner in from third base. If you're asking why he's not playing first base you got to be kidding, Ruf is definitely better defensively
RE: I guess  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15830088 spike said:
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Ruf is a better defender at 1B than Vientos.


you don't play a guy with a .400 ops in his time as a met hitting under .100 in the last month just because he can field 1b. generally speaking anyone can play 1b at least competently and vientos has played there in the minors.
RE: Vientos is playing as the DH  
butler : 9/25/2022 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15830090 Snablats said:
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He just failed to get a runner in from third base. If you're asking why he's not playing first base you got to be kidding, Ruf is definitely better defensively


No he's not. Alonso is playing DH. Ruffy was the one he failed (yet again) with Alonso on 3rd.
RE: RE: Vientos is playing as the DH  
spike : 9/25/2022 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15830097 butler said:
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He just failed to get a runner in from third base. If you're asking why he's not playing first base you got to be kidding, Ruf is definitely better defensively



No he's not. Alonso is playing DH. Ruffy was the one he failed (yet again) with Alonso on 3rd.


Ruf should be batting 9th
RE: RE: I guess  
butler : 9/25/2022 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15830094 Eric on Li said:
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Ruf is a better defender at 1B than Vientos.



you don't play a guy with a .400 ops in his time as a met hitting under .100 in the last month just because he can field 1b. generally speaking anyone can play 1b at least competently and vientos has played there in the minors.


Buck's love of Ruf is mind boggling at this point. Not only does he keep playing him but he keeps putting him in the middle of the order gumming up potential rally after rally (Like Escobar used too before turning his season around).
RE: RE: Vientos is playing as the DH  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 4:49 pm : link
In comment 15830097 butler said:
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In comment 15830090 Snablats said:


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He just failed to get a runner in from third base. If you're asking why he's not playing first base you got to be kidding, Ruf is definitely better defensively



No he's not. Alonso is playing DH. Ruffy was the one he failed (yet again) with Alonso on 3rd.

You are correct. I was watching with the sound off while I'm watching football on another TV
Ruf should not be n the post-season roster  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 4:58 pm : link
He also should not be on the team next year.
On deck...  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 5:01 pm : link
Nice  
PakistanPete : 9/25/2022 5:05 pm : link
!
half surprised they didn't walk in 1 run with escobar to face ruf  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 5:06 pm : link
another big hit by eduardo.
Escobar has carried this team  
spike : 9/25/2022 5:07 pm : link
recently
Escobar staying hot!  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 5:09 pm : link
Ruf, though, is decidedly AWFUL
RE: Escobar has carried this team  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15830113 spike said:
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recently


indeed. Ruf is rough to watch. Yekkhhhhh...
Phils and Braves are starting up again soon from Philly.  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 5:11 pm : link
Game should resume in about 10 minutes.
Ruf  
pjcas18 : 9/25/2022 5:12 pm : link
is painful to watch, I hated that trade and it makes the fact he sucks so much worse.

I'd rather have JD Davis, forget about the other 3 players included in the trade.
RE: Ruf  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15830119 pjcas18 said:
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is painful to watch, I hated that trade and it makes the fact he sucks so much worse.

I'd rather have JD Davis, forget about the other 3 players included in the trade.


Agreed. What was JD's problem here though ultimately? The whole thing is mind numbing when you sit down and rewind it in your head man. My brother loved JD, but when the trade was made we both said that it would be in his best interest. What went wrong here with him ultimately? Did he just need to play every day? What exactly? Because he is just better than Ruf is at this juncture.
i liked the ruf trade because in a decent sample (20+21) he was great  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 5:25 pm : link
like maybe the most underrated hitter in baseball. solid power, great on base%, decent average. that .519 slg% would currently be highest on the team.

he was having a down year but i assumed their scouts thought he was still looking good and about to turn a corner...which i guess he did the problem is it was over a cliff.

Is there any chance the Phillies game gets called?  
bhill410 : 9/25/2022 5:25 pm : link
It’s official right?
SF is certainly  
spike : 9/25/2022 5:26 pm : link
laughing at us with that trade.
RE: Is there any chance the Phillies game gets called?  
spike : 9/25/2022 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15830134 bhill410 said:
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It’s official right?


Doubtful, with its postseason implications.
RE: Is there any chance the Phillies game gets called?  
butler : 9/25/2022 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15830134 bhill410 said:
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It’s official right?


Unfortunately, they just resumed play.
Knockout punch there (Bye-Bye Sears the former Prison Striper)  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 5:32 pm : link
5-Zip

Hopefully the lead sticks this time. A laugher would be nice too of course :-)
Mets RBI record  
PakistanPete : 9/25/2022 5:34 pm : link
Pete
MVPete  
spike : 9/25/2022 5:35 pm : link
Great work.
alonso doing a great job showing us why we wanted the masher  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 5:36 pm : link
we never had. guy is a pure clean up hitter through and through. will be great to get him extended this offseason.
Peeeeete!  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 5:38 pm : link
Ruf is doing his best to play himself right off the postseason roster.
RE: Knockout punch there (Bye-Bye Sears the former Prison Striper)  
CooperDash : 9/25/2022 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15830149 Optimus-NY said:
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5-Zip

Hopefully the lead sticks this time. A laugher would be nice too of course :-)


Your constant roasting of the cross-town team is hilarious.
I agree Ruf should not be on the playoff roster  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 5:44 pm : link
But carrying two players in Vogelbach and Vientos who do not play defense could be an issue, so it wouldn't be a guarantee that Vientos would be the guy to replace him, especially since he hasn't exactly lit it up
Escobar - it’s hard to erase the 5 months of sucktitude  
CooperDash : 9/25/2022 5:48 pm : link
that Escobar put us through, but he’s winning me over.

Ruf needs to sit on the bench. As pj said, it was a horrible trade to begin with and he give this team nothing. He’s a net negative. If he’s on the post season roster, I’ll be sick. Of course…he will be.
I'd even  
spike : 9/25/2022 5:50 pm : link
take Dom over Ruf.
RE: I agree Ruf should not be on the playoff roster  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 5:53 pm : link
In comment 15830173 Snablats said:
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But carrying two players in Vogelbach and Vientos who do not play defense could be an issue, so it wouldn't be a guarantee that Vientos would be the guy to replace him, especially since he hasn't exactly lit it up


It doesn’t have to be vientos. But literally ANYONE would be better than him - he’s been a net negative at the place.
Ruf is so rarely used in a defensive manner and I’m more than  
CooperDash : 9/25/2022 5:53 pm : link
comfortable with using Vientos in those situations. Ruf is cooked. And Vientos has absolutely been heating up.
not playing vientos today off his last 2 games was a joke  
Eric on Li : 9/25/2022 6:01 pm : link
they should put him in for Ruf to get him some time at 1b to see if he can play there.

in the past 2 games he was 3/6 with 2 walks, just 1 k, and 2 extra base hits.

like i said above i liked the Ruf trade because his upside was a legitimate impact hitter. at this point they need to realize that is not happening. if he gets 1 or 2 big hits off the bench at some point thank the stars. but he has looked so putrid you can't play him over anyone with a pulse.
Fucking Philly pen  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 6:12 pm : link
6-6 now.

Grrrrrrr
Some Braves vs. Mets figures  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 6:13 pm : link
cant believe  
spike : 9/25/2022 6:13 pm : link
Robertson threw a wild pitch to get the tying run in the 8th for the Braves.
Just watched it, it was a blockable ball  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 6:15 pm : link
but the catcher was on one knee for pitch framing and didnt block it

Scherzer did a fine job  
spike : 9/25/2022 6:16 pm : link
at 91 pitches. I would go to the pen.
RE: Just watched it, it was a blockable ball  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 6:18 pm : link
In comment 15830214 Snablats said:
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but the catcher was on one knee for pitch framing and didnt block it


The official scorer seems to disagree with you
I'd like to see more  
spike : 9/25/2022 6:25 pm : link
of Megill, esp in a blowout like this.
RE: RE: Just watched it, it was a blockable ball  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 6:28 pm : link
In comment 15830218 speedywheels said:
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but the catcher was on one knee for pitch framing and didnt block it




The official scorer seems to disagree with you

Any time it hits the dirt its an automatic wild pitch. But it was a blockable ball that he didnt get to because he was on one knee
RE: I'd like to see more  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15830223 spike said:
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of Megill, esp in a blowout like this.


Agreed. Give him the 8th. Then Smith the 9th.
Bottom  
pjcas18 : 9/25/2022 6:32 pm : link
of the 9th in PHI still tied at 6.

It feels dirty to root for the PHI walk off, so I'm hoping for something like a HBP to win the game.
Buck should go out there and pull the A's pitcher for them.  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 6:40 pm : link
The Triple A's suck @$$. How did they beat the Mets yesterday?
Gore with the speed!  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 6:47 pm : link
Nice to see his speed put to use in CF and not just on the base paths.
Scherzer's pitching line today was as follows:  
Optimus-NY : 9/25/2022 7:04 pm : link
Bad news, Braves just went ahead of thePhillis, 7-6  
Dennis : 9/25/2022 7:14 pm : link
Top 11th.
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