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Trainmaster : 9/25/2022 8:12 pm
Let’s go Broncos.
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Gordon looked awful there  
RCPhoenix : 9/25/2022 10:44 pm : link
Also these skill players do not look like NFL players on offense
Wow  
cjac : 9/25/2022 10:44 pm : link
Booing
RE: RE: RE: Why did they take out Gordon at RB?  
BigBlueShock : 9/25/2022 10:45 pm : link
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So dumb - he has three great runs and then the other RB gets 1 yard


You have Gordon in fantasy, huh?



I do - but I honestly wasn’t thinking about that. Gordon had 2 consecutive runs of 6 yards and he was running much harder than Williams.

I don’t get when coaches go away from what works

Williams is averaging 4.8 yards per carry. Gordon is averaging 1.6 yards per carry. It’s obvious what’s working better than the other but it’s not what you think it is
How many draft picks did the Broncos give up?  
RCPhoenix : 9/25/2022 10:45 pm : link
Yikes
RE: Holy crap the Broncos bought a bill of goods with Wilson  
joeinpa : 9/25/2022 10:46 pm : link
In comment 15830479 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Honestly you could see Wilson was beginning to slip last season, so glad Giants decided not to go in that direction.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Why did they take out Gordon at RB?  
RCPhoenix : 9/25/2022 10:47 pm : link
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So dumb - he has three great runs and then the other RB gets 1 yard


You have Gordon in fantasy, huh?



I do - but I honestly wasn’t thinking about that. Gordon had 2 consecutive runs of 6 yards and he was running much harder than Williams.

I don’t get when coaches go away from what works



Williams is averaging 4.8 yards per carry. Gordon is averaging 1.6 yards per carry. It’s obvious what’s working better than the other but it’s not what you think it is


He had 2 consecutive strong runs and seemed to be getting into a groove. Then they took him out.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Why did they take out Gordon at RB?  
BigBlueShock : 9/25/2022 10:48 pm : link
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So dumb - he has three great runs and then the other RB gets 1 yard


You have Gordon in fantasy, huh?



I do - but I honestly wasn’t thinking about that. Gordon had 2 consecutive runs of 6 yards and he was running much harder than Williams.

I don’t get when coaches go away from what works



Williams is averaging 4.8 yards per carry. Gordon is averaging 1.6 yards per carry. It’s obvious what’s working better than the other but it’s not what you think it is



He had 2 consecutive strong runs and seemed to be getting into a groove. Then they took him out.

8 carries for 13 yards. Total. That’s some groove
He had 2 strong runs in a row  
RCPhoenix : 9/25/2022 10:51 pm : link
And was running well on those two plays.
The Giants are a stopping point for NFL kickers.  
St. Jimmy : 9/25/2022 10:51 pm : link
Not thar they need one at the moment but both these guys were on the Giants.
RE: RE: Holy crap the Broncos bought a bill of goods with Wilson  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/25/2022 10:52 pm : link
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Honestly you could see Wilson was beginning to slip last season, so glad Giants decided not to go in that direction.


Word. I would have been apoplectic.
Lol the Broncos WRs are dropping balls all over the field.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 10:53 pm : link
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This is some preseason football here.  
St. Jimmy : 9/25/2022 10:54 pm : link
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RE: He had 2 strong runs in a row  
BigBlueShock : 9/25/2022 10:55 pm : link
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And was running well on those two plays.

Ok man. Nothing wrong with trying to convince yourself something is happening that’s not because you started a guy in fantasy. We all do it. Including me. I want my guys to play too. But Williams is much, much better than Gordon. Those two incredibly mediocre runs notwithstanding. Next week I’d stay away from Gordon if I were you. But that’s your choice
So far it looks like the Giants picked the right GM  
Snablats : 9/25/2022 10:56 pm : link
and the right coach compared to some other teams
I want the gmen to be the last undefeated team badly  
nym172 : 9/25/2022 10:57 pm : link
4 games need to go our way. 2 wins by gmen. CIN over MIA, then JAG over PHI.
You guys are nuts.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 10:57 pm : link
Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great. Will you come back and eat your words? Wilson is a general and he's so much better than what we have it's not even funny. Right now, he would be the most talented QB in NY Giants history?
RE: Lol the Broncos WRs are dropping balls all over the field.  
BigBlueShock : 9/25/2022 10:59 pm : link
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Haha! Here comes the QB obsessed clown to tell us all this shit fest isn’t Wilson’s fault at all. You are fucking relentless, if nothing else
Both QBs are missing a lot of passes  
PatersonPlank : 9/25/2022 11:01 pm : link
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RE: RE: Lol the Broncos WRs are dropping balls all over the field.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:01 pm : link
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Haha! Here comes the QB obsessed clown to tell us all this shit fest isn’t Wilson’s fault at all. You are fucking relentless, if nothing else


I didn't say that. I said the wrs are dropping balls everywhere. They did. Three in a row.
The Broncos were stupid  
bwitz : 9/25/2022 11:02 pm : link
Wilson’s going to be great on TV as a color guy or studio guy soon though.
RE: The Broncos were stupid  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:03 pm : link
In comment 15830519 bwitz said:
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Wilson’s going to be great on TV as a color guy or studio guy soon though.


Are you that butthurt over people wanting Wilson instead of Jones? Wilson will be fine.
RE: You guys are nuts.  
joeinpa : 9/25/2022 11:03 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great. Will you come back and eat your words? Wilson is a general and he's so much better than what we have it's not even funny. Right now, he would be the most talented QB in NY Giants history?


Yes I will. But are you saying that up to now this pathetic offensive display by the Bronco s isn’t on Wilson?
Yeah, a WR dropped a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 13 from the 3  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/25/2022 11:05 pm : link
…when he would have been pasted if he caught it. Otherwise Wilson would have been ballin’
RE: You guys are nuts.  
BigBlueShock : 9/25/2022 11:06 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great. Will you come back and eat your words? Wilson is a general and he's so much better than what we have it's not even funny. Right now, he would be the most talented QB in NY Giants history?

You do realize there isn’t one person on this board that respects your opinions on QBs or cares even a little bit what you think, right? Why the hell do you think you need to pop up on every thread? Everyone is well aware of your weird ass QB obsession. And nobody cares. You’re annoying as fuck.
RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:08 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great. Will you come back and eat your words? Wilson is a general and he's so much better than what we have it's not even funny. Right now, he would be the most talented QB in NY Giants history?



Yes I will. But are you saying that up to now this pathetic offensive display by the Bronco s isn’t on Wilson?


No I'm not saying that. The QB always bears responsibility for poor offense. But Wilson is objectively an established baller. He will eventually produce numbers and wins.
RE: RE: The Broncos were stupid  
bwitz : 9/25/2022 11:09 pm : link
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Wilson’s going to be great on TV as a color guy or studio guy soon though.



Are you that butthurt over people wanting Wilson instead of Jones? Wilson will be fine.


Butthurt? Lmfao! Jones isn’t good. I’ve never been a fan. One has nothing to do with the other. I’m sorry that you can’t comprehend the fact that, Russell Wilson was not worth what the Broncos gave up. He literally looks like sun baked dog shit right now.

And what the fuck is this obsession with him being on the Giants? It was NEVER going to happen and, that was a good thing for this franchise.
RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:11 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great. Will you come back and eat your words? Wilson is a general and he's so much better than what we have it's not even funny. Right now, he would be the most talented QB in NY Giants history?


You do realize there isn’t one person on this board that respects your opinions on QBs or cares even a little bit what you think, right? Why the hell do you think you need to pop up on every thread? Everyone is well aware of your weird ass QB obsession. And nobody cares. You’re annoying as fuck.


You do realize you're a giant clown who brings down discourse on this board by engaging in personal attacks. Nobody respects what you have to say about other posters. I have been more right than wrong on this board and I think I was the only poster on this board who said Tua could still be good.
RE: RE: RE: The Broncos were stupid  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:12 pm : link
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Wilson’s going to be great on TV as a color guy or studio guy soon though.



Are you that butthurt over people wanting Wilson instead of Jones? Wilson will be fine.



Butthurt? Lmfao! Jones isn’t good. I’ve never been a fan. One has nothing to do with the other. I’m sorry that you can’t comprehend the fact that, Russell Wilson was not worth what the Broncos gave up. He literally looks like sun baked dog shit right now.

And what the fuck is this obsession with him being on the Giants? It was NEVER going to happen and, that was a good thing for this franchise.


Just as Wilson leads a clutch 4th Q drive.
RE: You guys are nuts.  
DefenseWins : 9/25/2022 11:14 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great?


So he has to learn and get comfortable with the new system? A pro QB should be able to just play... Right? He had the off season to learn the playbook and get in sync with the WRs.
probably 2 of the best defenses in the league  
jmalls23 : 9/25/2022 11:15 pm : link
Wilson is a snake!. would always want him
RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:20 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great?



So he has to learn and get comfortable with the new system? A pro QB should be able to just play... Right? He had the off season to learn the playbook and get in sync with the WRs.


I never said that. So you feel you have to fabricate something I said, to try to win an argument against me. It means basically you agree with me.
And Jimmy G doesn't  
section125 : 9/25/2022 11:20 pm : link
see the safety and gets picked....
Bad Decision By Jimmy G  
Trainmaster : 9/25/2022 11:20 pm : link
Well covered.
That is why the Niners  
jvm52106 : 9/25/2022 11:21 pm : link
We're looking for a QB upgrade. They may have made the mistake of wanting Lance over Mac Jones but you see what the issue is. If it isn't perfect Jimmy G breaks down.
Defenses are getting smarter and smarter  
nym172 : 9/25/2022 11:21 pm : link
I think we have to lower our expectations of daniel jones.

This idea that he has to throw 3tds every game i don't know

I'm watching QB play around the league today, its not great.

Jones doesn't have to be amazing.
RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
nym172 : 9/25/2022 11:22 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great?



So he has to learn and get comfortable with the new system? A pro QB should be able to just play... Right? He had the off season to learn the playbook and get in sync with the WRs.



not the same as live bullets with exotic blitzed/defenses and real games. It takes 8-10 games like brady when he got comfortable.
RE: Defenses are getting smarter and smarter  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:27 pm : link
In comment 15830543 nym172 said:
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I think we have to lower our expectations of daniel jones.

This idea that he has to throw 3tds every game i don't know

I'm watching QB play around the league today, its not great.

Jones doesn't have to be amazing.


It's an interesting point. QB play has been a little lacking so far this season. But the great QBs will start to play more consistently and separate themselves, and then the playoffs. Mediocre QBs generally kill you in the playoffs.
49ers Gave This Game Away  
Trainmaster : 9/25/2022 11:27 pm : link
Bummer!

I think Wilson looked just fine in the 4th Q  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:27 pm : link
of this game.
RE: RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
DefenseWins : 9/25/2022 11:28 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great?



So he has to learn and get comfortable with the new system? A pro QB should be able to just play... Right? He had the off season to learn the playbook and get in sync with the WRs.



I never said that. So you feel you have to fabricate something I said, to try to win an argument against me. It means basically you agree with me.


YOU said he has to figure out how to run with this offense. That either means figuring out the system or getting on the same page with offensive team mates that he has little history with.

I did not make that up. Unless your definition of figuring out the offense means something else.

There is no winning an argument. Not sure what that means either. Is there a prize? Maybe someone will click the "like" button?
RE: RE: RE: RE: You guys are nuts.  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:32 pm : link
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Once Wilson figures out how to run with this offense, he's going to be great?



So he has to learn and get comfortable with the new system? A pro QB should be able to just play... Right? He had the off season to learn the playbook and get in sync with the WRs.



I never said that. So you feel you have to fabricate something I said, to try to win an argument against me. It means basically you agree with me.



YOU said he has to figure out how to run with this offense. That either means figuring out the system or getting on the same page with offensive team mates that he has little history with.

I did not make that up. Unless your definition of figuring out the offense means something else.

There is no winning an argument. Not sure what that means either. Is there a prize? Maybe someone will click the "like" button?


Of course every qb has to learn an offense and how to play with new guys and new coaches.
RE: Defenses are getting smarter and smarter  
RCPhoenix : 9/25/2022 11:37 pm : link
In comment 15830543 nym172 said:
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I think we have to lower our expectations of daniel jones.

This idea that he has to throw 3tds every game i don't know

I'm watching QB play around the league today, its not great.

Jones doesn't have to be amazing.


Jones needs to look downfield when the pocket starts to collapse to see when receivers are open. That’s his biggest flaw this season.
RE: Defenses are getting smarter and smarter  
santacruzom : 9/25/2022 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15830543 nym172 said:
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I think we have to lower our expectations of daniel jones.

This idea that he has to throw 3tds every game i don't know

I'm watching QB play around the league today, its not great.

Jones doesn't have to be amazing.


Seems to me like the best QB thus far has been Lamar Jackson, and by a pretty decent margin.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Broncos were stupid  
speedywheels : 9/25/2022 11:53 pm : link
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Wilson’s going to be great on TV as a color guy or studio guy soon though.



Are you that butthurt over people wanting Wilson instead of Jones? Wilson will be fine.



Butthurt? Lmfao! Jones isn’t good. I’ve never been a fan. One has nothing to do with the other. I’m sorry that you can’t comprehend the fact that, Russell Wilson was not worth what the Broncos gave up. He literally looks like sun baked dog shit right now.

And what the fuck is this obsession with him being on the Giants? It was NEVER going to happen and, that was a good thing for this franchise.



Just as Wilson leads a clutch 4th Q drive.


Jones has done that TWICE already this season. But the anti Jones crowd doesn’t want to acknowledge that.

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nobody is anti-Jones. You guys are hilarious  
Producer : 9/25/2022 11:59 pm : link
I am opposed to adolescent posts, however.
Garoppolo was awful tonight  
Sean : 9/26/2022 12:12 am : link
If Jones made some of those mistakes he’d get destroyed. Running out of the back of the end zone is awful.
RE: Garoppolo was awful tonight  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2022 12:35 am : link
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If Jones made some of those mistakes he’d get destroyed. Running out of the back of the end zone is awful.


Lots of missed throws and bad decisions. Wilson didn’t have a great game but he had the big play when it mattered, Jimmy G didn’t.
that was one ugly football game  
islander1 : 9/26/2022 12:40 am : link
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RE: nobody is anti-Jones. You guys are hilarious  
giantstock : 9/26/2022 1:28 am : link
In comment 15830560 Producer said:
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I am opposed to adolescent posts, however.


The you need to stop making them too. You are one of the biggest anti-HJones posters on here. Who are you kidding that you aren't antiJones????
Why is it that Russell Wilson  
GiantMike92 : 9/26/2022 8:22 am : link
Has the excuse of learning a new offense but Jones, who has had to learn a new every other year. Along with horrible offensive lines average at best WR’s, injured star RB, broken down TE’s since he has been here. Doesn’t get the same excuse that “Producer” just used for Wilson. BTW I would call myself Jones’s biggest fan by any means. Also I don’t see anyone giving Jones that big contract everyone here is so worried about. Perhaps a contract like the one that Trubisky just signed would work for both parties.
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