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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 6:58 am
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1 & 9 Against the boys  
Alamo : 9/26/2022 1:19 pm : link
In the last 10 games..But look how bad the roster for the Giants was..O Line was College level in talent..
The Defense was horrible..And worse then all that was the coaching..More college warranted then the NFL..
So tonight, we have a very different story..We have a little better roster..We have some talent added on Defense..The O Line is a little better..Not great by no means, but with some extra coaching, could surprise the boys tonight..How about that Defense coaching,and game planning and play calling?I think the boys will not be able to withstand what's going to be coming at them..The offense play calling will help DJ,and the O Line..Barkley will get his 70/80 yds,and a score or even 2 of them..We need 1 or 2 WR's to step up tonight..James/Stills could help out alot,if the boys concentrate on Barkley out of the backfield on passing plays..Maybe Slayton catches a long one..Golladay is Golladay..Daydreaming of past history with his old team..God save us!!!
RE: RE: Betting perspective......  
Dr. D : 9/26/2022 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15831078 Breeze_94 said:
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over/under is 39.5

I am leaning towards UNDER



Agreed this is going to be an ugly game. Which actually favors Dallas since they have a backup QB and loaded defensive front.

With all of the Dallas injuries, I think the Giants will have more talent on the field tonight. The key will be eliminating disaster plays, stopping the run, and 3rd down efficiency.

16-13 giants is my pick although I’d love to see them score 30+ and win convincingly so we can be an optimistic 3-0

I agree with everything you said, including the score, until the last part of your last sentence. Why do we have to "score 30+ and win convincingly so we can be an optimistic 3-0"?

Dallas has a really good D right now. They held Brady and the Bucs and Burrow and the Bengals to an avg of, i believe 19 pts. We have an OL that's still learning to pass protect and ?s at WR that are still learning the plays.

I also predicted Giants 16-13, but if we win 2-0, it will be an optimistic 3-0 to me, because it will mean we have a kick ass D that's keeping us in games while the O hopefully improves down the road and breaks out against a weaker D.
The great thing about tonight's game is that I am excited!  
Walker Gillette : 9/26/2022 1:39 pm : link
Most of the fan base is excited. I fear prime time games, but Cowboys on a Monday night @ home, white out, the atmosphere should be electric. Dallas has Parsons and some other pieces, but their offense with Rush is nothing special and for the first time since Coughlin, I feel like the Giants have a big advantage in coaching, especially against Jones/McCarthy. If they can pull this out, and honestly why can't they, then the team is 3-0 and looking at the Bears and Justin Fields @ home next week! Lets do this and as fans we'll have what we've been talking about for years, meaningful games in October and likely beyond!
This is the type of game that changes expectations  
Sean : 9/26/2022 1:39 pm : link
If they win tonight, I think a wildcard spot begins to look like a real possibility. This will be a very tough game. Dallas has a good defense and still dangerous weapons on offense. The Giants have lost to Dallas forever. It’s a game that helps set the tone for the season.
Dallas TE Sean Mckeon  
ChicagoMarty : 9/26/2022 1:44 pm : link
has been elevated to the active roster from the Practice squad for tonight's game which suggests that Dalton Schultz is a no go
RE: Dallas TE Sean Mckeon  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/26/2022 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15831158 ChicagoMarty said:
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has been elevated to the active roster from the Practice squad for tonight's game which suggests that Dalton Schultz is a no go


Sure could be although they might have Schultz warm up and try it out for a bit and have someone ready to go.
It's a quarterbacks league.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2022 2:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Dallas TE Sean Mckeon  
knowledgetimmons : 9/26/2022 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15831194 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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has been elevated to the active roster from the Practice squad for tonight's game which suggests that Dalton Schultz is a no go



Sure could be although they might have Schultz warm up and try it out for a bit and have someone ready to go.


How bad are their back up TE's that Schultz is thinking about playing on a shitty knee? Seems like a huge risk for minimal gain.
If Schultz and Gallup both don't play, our d can focus on Lamb and on  
Ira : 9/26/2022 2:17 pm : link
the running game.
RE: It's a quarterbacks league.  
Walker Gillette : 9/26/2022 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15831196 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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So against Cooper Rush the Giants should have a chance...
RE: If Schultz and Gallup both don't play, our d can focus on Lamb and on  
Walker Gillette : 9/26/2022 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15831200 Ira said:
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the running game.


Jackson has played well the first two weeks and I can't see Martindale letting Lamb beat him. I like the way this game is lining up. The last few years have been tough and Prime Time has been a debacle, but it's 2022 and things feel different. Two come from behind wins, after some really good halftime adjustments. I can see 3-0 sitting there for the taking! Lets go Giants!
RE: RE: Vegas now has Philly favored to win the NFC  
Blue21 : 9/26/2022 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15830767 Returning Video Tapes said:
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They also have assloads of extra first round and day 2 draft picks coming up. Philly is going to be a major problem for the next 5+ years.



The team is stacked and Roseman is doing exactly what he did with their first super bowl win as he hit lotto with Hurts who was really just originally supposed to be insurance for Wentz injury proneness. It’s why he made the trade for the corner and signed Bradberry. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he flips an early pick or two for a proven player in the off-season IF they like what they see when he’s playing the teams on their talent level. Right now scouting Hurts is like scouting the QBs at OSU or Bama. You only gonna get a few times to really scout what they can do on a neutral field.
Yep and another very good reason to have picked Brandon Brown as the Asst GM
RE: RE: It's a quarterbacks league.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2022 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15831201 Walker Gillette said:
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So against Cooper Rush the Giants should have a chance...


They definitely have a chance, but he's got to move the ball and lead an offense to points. Can't rely on the defense to win the game for him.
RE: The Giants have a history of playing poorly against Backup QB's  
Jimmy Googs : 9/26/2022 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15831033 Grey Pilgrim said:
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More like ancient history.

Teams playing backup QBs are basically the only teams we beat during the dreaded Gettleman era...
There's something  
mittenedman : 9/26/2022 3:48 pm : link
comforting about having Wink Martindale at DC. "You want me on that wall" kind of thing. Think the D will be ready, and he's got a few tricks up his sleeve for Cooper Rush.
Not having Williams on the D line is a problem  
RCPhoenix : 9/26/2022 3:52 pm : link
My biggest concern tonight is how the D does against the run without him in the game.
Turnovers  
armstead98 : 9/26/2022 3:53 pm : link
Giants have played well on D but haven’t generated many turnovers. Probably due to lack of a pass rush.

Feel like the winner of the turnover battle wins the game.
Defense needs to lead the way again  
dancing blue bear : 9/26/2022 4:06 pm : link
Missing Leo sucks but getting thibs and zeez is exciting. I think ward can hold the line for a week or 2. Dallas OL Is not very good right now. Must exploit them and rush rush. Besides lamb their wr and te are as trash as ours

On offense gotta run the ball inside and stick with it. A couple well timed max protect shot plays but mostly short and methodical. No turnovers. Front door is fast flow. Screens and misdirection quick hitters/ dives. Wear them out. Thomas can handle parsons. Neal needs help
Winner of the turnover battle  
Dave on the UWS : 9/26/2022 4:16 pm : link
usually wins in the NFL. Single most important stat.
RE: If Schultz and Gallup both don't play, our d can focus on Lamb and on  
Alamo : 9/26/2022 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15831200 Ira said:
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the running game.

ESPN just said Gallup was a no go..But I don't trust the Kowboys..We have to plan that he is going to play. Maybe he doesn't start,but he could come on whenever,especially in the red zone..
RE: I haven't been this excited for a GIANT game in a long time!  
Alamo : 9/26/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15830984 Grey Pilgrim said:
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Go GIANTS!!!

I'm to old to get excited..It's alot easier for me to get drunk..Takes to long for anything else..But Go Big Blue..I'm wearing my Barkley Jersey for the game..He's the one who could really win the game for us..I'm at home 400 miles away from the stadium..Nobody will know or see me,unless we win,and I'm drunk,and go running down my street with nothing on but Barkley's Jersey..ooohraaa
Any late word on Toney's  
Gjfro : 9/26/2022 4:27 pm : link
status for tonight?
It certainly is nice  
Jay on the Island : 9/26/2022 4:35 pm : link
going into a Cowboys game not expecting to get blown out.
RE: Any late word on Toney's  
BigBlueJ : 9/26/2022 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15831300 Gjfro said:
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status for tonight?

status = glass
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 5:14 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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The Giants activated DL Henry Mondeaux & DB Fabian Moreau from the practice squad.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 5:15 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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Giants have elevated CB Fabian Moreau and DL Henry Mondeaux from the practice squad. So no Tony Jefferson nor Jaylon Smith tonight.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 5:15 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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Giants introducing their defense tonight during pre-game festivities.

If the rehearsal going on right now is any indication, Kayvon Thibodeaux and Azeez Ojulari are starting.
Toney Jefferson is getting poached by the bills soon  
nym172 : 9/26/2022 5:17 pm : link
We should sign him already...
Reverse the curse Daniel  
SteelGiant : 9/26/2022 5:32 pm : link
It’s a white out, someone get a white cat on the field
We should run right at Parsons off tackle and stretch in some “passing  
Returning Video Tapes : 9/26/2022 5:33 pm : link
downs” and use his outside in weirdo footwork against him.
Let Parsons come in on a free rush and have DJ  
Jimmy Googs : 9/26/2022 5:38 pm : link
whip a fastball right at his nuts like Paul Crew…
Yankees playing tonight  
US1 Giants : 9/26/2022 5:59 pm : link
What radio channel is the Giants radio broadcast?
I've really enjoyed winning the last 2 weeks.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/26/2022 6:06 pm : link

This really feels like the letdown week. I'm fully expecting the Giants to get blown out tonight.

For the love of God, I hope we continue this string of wins but I feel the letdown coming.

Go Giants.
Here’s Hoping For A ‘2 Fer’  
Trainmaster : 9/26/2022 6:08 pm : link
1) Giants win
2) Judge hits 61 & 62

Thinking about 1986 when (if I recall correctly) the Mets beat Red Sox in game 7 and the Giants beat the Redskins on MNF on the same day (and overlapping times I believe).
I have this bad feeling  
Des51 : 9/26/2022 6:09 pm : link
that #5 is going to be very disappointing in this game.
I can't deal with Aikman doing a Cowboys game  
montanagiant : 9/26/2022 6:09 pm : link
Manningcast for me
RE: I have this bad feeling  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2022 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15831403 Des51 said:
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that #5 is going to be very disappointing in this game.


Is it really disappointing if he's not effective coming off a month on the shelf?
Team has holes  
Biteymax22 : 9/26/2022 6:26 pm : link
We’re not playoff ready and have a lot of questions to answer. Despite that, if we came out and stomped Dallas tonight, Dak ior not, it would certainly be a great way for Schoen and Daboll to tell Giants fans “we’re the right guys”.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/26/2022 6:27 pm : link
Cousin is tailgating/going to the game. Said it is a young crowd for most part where he is. MetLife should be rocking tonight.
Cooper Rush  
armstead98 : 9/26/2022 6:29 pm : link
There’s now a full game tape on him. Hoping wink takes advantage
Re the conversation about QB play:  
81_Great_Dane : 9/26/2022 6:52 pm : link
The Bills were trailing by 2, needed a field goal, less than 20 seconds on the clock with no timeouts. Bills & Josh Allen keep throwing underneath over the middle, short of the needed yardage. Even if they complete the pass, they're throwing to a part of the field where they'll have a hard time getting out of bounds or spiking the ball to stop the clock. Is that a dumb QB? Terrible play calling? I'm guessing the Dolphins were guarding the sidelines and the deep middle, leaving the Bills nowhere to go with the ball other than middle underneath. Bills lose by 2.

Trailing by 8, the Bucs needed a TD and a 2-point conversion to tie. Tom Brady barely avoids a delay of game on the TD play, then has a delay of game on the conversation attempt. The TV analyst said he thought they'd walk in on the original attempt. The second attempt is incomplete, Bucs lose by 2.

Obviously, Allen and Brady have earned the benefit of the doubt, and DJ absolutely has not. But what would posts on this Forum say if either of those things happened to the Giants tonight?

My 2 cents' worth: I don't think everything is attributable to the QB. Sometimes the QB has only bad alternatives, and sometimes the D just makes a play. But some things are attributable to the QB. That's where we need to see DJ improve.
VERY disappointed but not very surprised that Toney is inactive.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/26/2022 6:55 pm : link
I've been willing to cut the kid some slack but he really, really needs to get on the field. I'm coming around the negative opinions of others on this board.
81.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/26/2022 6:56 pm : link
It is a joke @ this point. A joke. & I'm a believer in his talent. But he has to get his ass on the field.
Radio stream link is:  
Matt123 : 9/26/2022 7:06 pm : link
Here (wfan2)


Giants radio - ( New Window )
Watching NFL Network show The Cowboys pregame show  
PatersonPlank : 9/26/2022 7:20 pm : link
I wonder when they will realize the Giants are also playing
RE: Watching NFL Network show The Cowboys pregame show  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2022 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15831508 PatersonPlank said:
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I wonder when they will realize the Giants are also playing


You can't seriously be surprised in all your years watching football.
RE: RE: Watching NFL Network show The Cowboys pregame show  
PatersonPlank : 9/26/2022 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15831520 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I wonder when they will realize the Giants are also playing



You can't seriously be surprised in all your years watching football.


I made a mistake i was watching ESPN, and no I'm not surprised.

First they have a segment on Jimmy J saying "How bout them Cowboys"
Next they have a segment on Micah Parsons
Now they are going to talk about the history of the number 88 to the Cowboys history.

I mean seriously, how can they just do this when they are standing in MetLife Stadium
It sucks but that's why I put the game on at  
TommytheElephant : 9/26/2022 7:30 pm : link
Exactly kickoff
Toney is a talented athlete  
Dave on the UWS : 9/26/2022 7:41 pm : link
He’s NOT a good football player and he’s not durable. Guys that are “human joysticks” have a hard time keeping their legs healthy. Most likely he’s done after this year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/26/2022 7:45 pm : link
The media love for Dallas is so over the top. Team hasn't won/appeared in a Super Bowl since '95 when I was in high school necking Liz Bryant.
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