I like Shep. He had a bad drop today, but I like him as a player. He's done though. The wr talent on this team is nonexistent. Golladay had two big drops and struggles to see the field with guys like Sills and James. KT is either legit injured or disinterested in football and Slayton must just suck at this point. He doesn't even play.
This was an opportunity to change the expectations of the season. 3-0 really can set the tone for an improbable wildcard run. This was a dose of reality with games against the Packers & Ravens on the horizon. The Bears game becomes important now.
had to of pushed for Daniel Jomes as an Eli lookalike and here we are. Things need to change and if the new GM is getting pressure from the Maras he should resign and walk away. Mara and Gettleman destroyed the franchise. We are a long way from being a contender.
In this game probably more than any other. He had to deal with no pass protection and receivers who either couldn’t catch or couldn’t get open. Except for Ritchie James.
No pass protection
No pass rush
Defense collapse all three levels
Giants will be pudding at the Eagles dinner
They have a pass rush.
I warned you guys. You can't miss all of camp and the preseason and just play. Our two top edge rushers are not ready for the season. Combine that with Leonard Williams being out.
The real alpha edge guys would have shown something against a super poor pass pro OL.
Thibs will probably be fine, but people here act like we got Myles Garret reincarnate and everyone just passed because he was a name. Meanwhile dude that did go number 1 overall looks like an actual freak.
Disappointed in the D. Seems everything rests on the shoulders of Jones and Barkley to produce. Should be the D winning or losing for us. Did the Dallas D make it to 20 pressures ;(
Led the Giants to a one score loss, quite a feat for a team that routinely gets embarrassed on national TV and was mostly assembled by arguable the worst GM of the 2000's.
To me, this is a moral victory.
I feel good about the coaching staff. If the front office can find them players, I think the future will be right.
Processes not results are the key this year. They simply don’t have enough talent as of now to expect many wins.
RE: Our O-Line is terrible and our receiving corps is terrible
Sign tomorrow. Otherwise going to be tough to watch this pass O.
You seriously want the Giants to sign Antonio Brown? You must be as crazy as he is
Name a WR on our roster that is better?
And hypothetically he would play how many games before his brain snaps and he quits on us mid game like he did the Patriots?...
He's a nutcase. Forget it.
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
RE: There's a lot going on with this offensive line
and the below average receivers, but damn, Daniel Jones needs to stop holding onto the ball so long waiting for things to develop. It's just maddening that he never seems to throw it in rhythm unless it's a slant.
Yeah, sometimes you have to trust your receivers to get open between the time you throw and the time the ball gets to them. But can you blame him for not having a high level of trust? Like when the guy slips and falls and it ends up looking like a bad throw and INT to end the game. Ugh.
It's just a bad situation all around with this offense, because nobody/no position is good enough to overcome the weaknesses of the other positions.
RE: And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
I'm sure you said the same thing about our left tackle his rookie season.
Back to earth fella’s. Need to win next week. If we make it to the quarter poll 3-1 I’ll take that.
Look, the talent just isn’t on the field. Receivers are bad, they’re still a lot of work and more talent needed on the line. On defense, we just don’t have any playmakers. There’s nothing on defense that changes the game. Nothing. And Specials don’t make plays either. All of this is pretty clear playing a team like Dallas. And let’s be honest about Dallas, they ain’t that great themselves. We had their backup QB1 and he gave us more than we could handle. Giants are still a bad team. Rebuilding. Sure. But still bad.
If there’s anything to worry about it’s the coaching which didn’t seem to be great tonight. I know DaBALLS can’t make much with the lousy personnel. But it didn’t seem like a great game for the coaches.
OL and DL were bad. Jones had no protection and we generated no pass rush. No sacks against Rush, a backup QB. Nothing from our WRs. Golladay and Toney have done zero this year, and now Shepard is likely done for the year as well.
Jones was running for his life the entire night. He played very well.
Neal and KT were disappointing, but both are rookies and KT is likely still recovering from his injury.
had to of pushed for Daniel Jomes as an Eli lookalike and here we are. Things need to change and if the new GM is getting pressure from the Maras he should resign and walk away. Mara and Gettleman destroyed the franchise. We are a long way from being a contender.
Seriously, one tough loss and this is how some of you respond..
It's a rebuild and it is far from over because of cap shit (KG), a lame duck QB and absolutely nothing at WR!!
on first down by Shepard. That's a ball that should have been caught and should have been a first down. Instead, 2nd and long. That drive went sideways after that.
Neal had a very rough game...hopefully it's a learning experience
Tae Crowder, Darnay Holmes, and Kenny Golladay stand out among them. It’s like having 3 Evan Engrams instead of one.
Evan Neal… that was ugly. I’m not even sure that Thomas was that bad as a rookie.
The play-calling at the end of the half was atrocious and almost bit them in the ass. The Cowboys were giving them the first down and the sideline, but they’re running slants.
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
RE: They have got to find a replacement for Crowder somehow
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
Yes. Thomas had a lot of bad games his rookie season. How quickly peopke forget.
Unfortunately there are going to be games like this
doesn't throw anyone open. He doesn't anticipate anything (either pressure or receivers coming out of breaks. He is incredibly slow to process things and does not throw the ball unless he actually sees a guy open. That doesn't work in the NFL. It doesn't work when you have good talent skill positions, and it certainly doesnt work when you have no talent at the skill positions. He's a see it open throw it QB only. The next one of those that is actually successful in this league will be the first.
RE: I think we to need explore a trade for a WR...
doesn't throw anyone open. He doesn't anticipate anything (either pressure or receivers coming out of breaks. He is incredibly slow to process things and does not throw the ball unless he actually sees a guy open. That doesn't work in the NFL. It doesn't work when you have good talent skill positions, and it certainly doesnt work when you have no talent at the skill positions. He's a see it open throw it QB only. The next one of those that is actually successful in this league will be the first.
Sorry you missed the game, but you can catch the highlights
it doesn't matter. The Giants just aren't gonna bring Jones back as the starter after this year just on the chance that he plays better behind a better offensive line - nor should they. This team has remained one of the most anemic offenses in the league through Jones' entire time with the team. He had his chance, time to try something new.
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
He will have ups and downs, but so far he has had no ups. His pass protection through three games has been laughably bad. He is sometimes barely touching the guys running past him.
And yet Wink seems to like him… for some reason.
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Get this fucking bum out of here
Didn't realize how many stupid Giant fans we have almost as stupid as the Eagle fans
Think he meant Jerry Jones
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Really hurt the run defense
Yes
Yet Aikman and Buck spent about .0001 seconds on that. Whole night was about Dallas' injuries.
I’d sign for 4-4 at the bye.
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Sign tomorrow. Otherwise going to be tough to watch this pass O.
You seriously want the Giants to sign Antonio Brown? You must be as crazy as he is
Name a WR on our roster that is better?
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Giants lack of talent exposed tonight.
No pass protection
No pass rush
Defense collapse all three levels
Giants will be pudding at the Eagles dinner
They have a pass rush.
I warned you guys. You can't miss all of camp and the preseason and just play. Our two top edge rushers are not ready for the season. Combine that with Leonard Williams being out.
The real alpha edge guys would have shown something against a super poor pass pro OL.
Thibs will probably be fine, but people here act like we got Myles Garret reincarnate and everyone just passed because he was a name. Meanwhile dude that did go number 1 overall looks like an actual freak.
Obviously Golladay, Toney, and Robinson don’t seem to be able to get on the field….
Disappointed in the D. Seems everything rests on the shoulders of Jones and Barkley to produce. Should be the D winning or losing for us. Did the Dallas D make it to 20 pressures ;(
To me, this is a moral victory.
I feel good about the coaching staff. If the front office can find them players, I think the future will be right.
Processes not results are the key this year. They simply don’t have enough talent as of now to expect many wins.
Zero. I swear we didn't hurry a single throw. Thibs and Ojulari completely invisible. Incredible.
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Sign tomorrow. Otherwise going to be tough to watch this pass O.
You seriously want the Giants to sign Antonio Brown? You must be as crazy as he is
Name a WR on our roster that is better?
And hypothetically he would play how many games before his brain snaps and he quits on us mid game like he did the Patriots?...
He's a nutcase. Forget it.
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You left off WR3 and WR4
Yeah, sometimes you have to trust your receivers to get open between the time you throw and the time the ball gets to them. But can you blame him for not having a high level of trust? Like when the guy slips and falls and it ends up looking like a bad throw and INT to end the game. Ugh.
It's just a bad situation all around with this offense, because nobody/no position is good enough to overcome the weaknesses of the other positions.
I'm sure you said the same thing about our left tackle his rookie season.
Look, the talent just isn’t on the field. Receivers are bad, they’re still a lot of work and more talent needed on the line. On defense, we just don’t have any playmakers. There’s nothing on defense that changes the game. Nothing. And Specials don’t make plays either. All of this is pretty clear playing a team like Dallas. And let’s be honest about Dallas, they ain’t that great themselves. We had their backup QB1 and he gave us more than we could handle. Giants are still a bad team. Rebuilding. Sure. But still bad.
If there’s anything to worry about it’s the coaching which didn’t seem to be great tonight. I know DaBALLS can’t make much with the lousy personnel. But it didn’t seem like a great game for the coaches.
If Shep is out, we really are thin at the position, especially because you can't count on the Apathy Asses - Golladay and Toney.
Jones was running for his life the entire night. He played very well.
Neal and KT were disappointing, but both are rookies and KT is likely still recovering from his injury.
Barkley, Jackson, and Gano also played well.
Shitty game
Seriously, one tough loss and this is how some of you respond..
It's a rebuild and it is far from over because of cap shit (KG), a lame duck QB and absolutely nothing at WR!!
Thibs and Azeez were invisible
Barkley, Thomas and Jones are only one on offense with enough talent.
Evan Neal… that was ugly. I’m not even sure that Thomas was that bad as a rookie.
The play-calling at the end of the half was atrocious and almost bit them in the ass. The Cowboys were giving them the first down and the sideline, but they’re running slants.
Barkley needed to get the ball more often.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
I didn’t see the out coached. We hung in. Saw the outplayed and out talented.
I was thinking the same thing. Did he even get a snap tonight?
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as much as I have to admit, always out coach the Giants. Their franchise is ran better overall, same with the Eagles.
I didn’t see the out coached. We hung in. Saw the outplayed and out talented.
My take as well.
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
Yes. Thomas had a lot of bad games his rookie season. How quickly peopke forget.
Can't expect to regularly win without at least a few offensive weapons
and Williams is clearly hard to replace on defense.
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Hmm, a little early to worry about your list. WR and QB are clearly not on the roster right now..
If Shep is out, we really are thin at the position, especially because you can't count on the Apathy Asses - Golladay and Toney.
Agreed.. If a contender loses a QB I would offer up Jones. We need picks to go with our cap space next year.
Sorry you missed the game, but you can catch the highlights
Agree. A beatable team.
We won 2 close, low scoring games. We lost 1. The games themselves weren't that different.
That's just who we are right now. We're not good this year. It's OK. We're not supposed to be good this year.
Slayton was out there, did nothing.. He and KG are clearly not liked by this staff.
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
He will have ups and downs, but so far he has had no ups. His pass protection through three games has been laughably bad. He is sometimes barely touching the guys running past him.