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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 10:59 pm
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RE: They have got to find a replacement for Crowder somehow  
Angel Eyes : 9/26/2022 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15833370 Greg from LI said:
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I lost count of how many tackles he missed

And yet Wink seems to like him… for some reason.
Brutal loss  
The_Boss : 9/26/2022 11:32 pm : link
And maybe the end of Shep’s NFL career. I think a bunch of colleges have better WR’s than the NYG.
.  
Banks : 9/26/2022 11:32 pm : link
I like Shep. He had a bad drop today, but I like him as a player. He's done though. The wr talent on this team is nonexistent. Golladay had two big drops and struggles to see the field with guys like Sills and James. KT is either legit injured or disinterested in football and Slayton must just suck at this point. He doesn't even play.

RE: RE: Suck ass jones  
Amtoft : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15833401 uconngiant said:
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Get this fucking bum out of here



Didn't realize how many stupid Giant fans we have almost as stupid as the Eagle fans


Think he meant Jerry Jones
Slayton  
Andy in Boston : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
Must be really fucking up … only guy that can get deep on the team and can’t get any time … crazy.
RE: RE: The loss of Leonard Williams  
FranknWeezer : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15833293 jeff57 said:
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Really hurt the run defense



Yes


Yet Aikman and Buck spent about .0001 seconds on that. Whole night was about Dallas' injuries.
A missed opportunity  
Sean : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
This was an opportunity to change the expectations of the season. 3-0 really can set the tone for an improbable wildcard run. This was a dose of reality with games against the Packers & Ravens on the horizon. The Bears game becomes important now.

I’d sign for 4-4 at the bye.
RE: RE: Hopefully AB and OBj  
beatrixkiddo : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15833403 jnoble said:
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Sign tomorrow. Otherwise going to be tough to watch this pass O.



You seriously want the Giants to sign Antonio Brown? You must be as crazy as he is


Name a WR on our roster that is better?
John Mara  
Ike#88 : 9/26/2022 11:33 pm : link
had to of pushed for Daniel Jomes as an Eli lookalike and here we are. Things need to change and if the new GM is getting pressure from the Maras he should resign and walk away. Mara and Gettleman destroyed the franchise. We are a long way from being a contender.
I was impressed more by Jones  
jeff57 : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
In this game probably more than any other. He had to deal with no pass protection and receivers who either couldn’t catch or couldn’t get open. Except for Ritchie James.
RE: RE: Gonna be long rest of season  
Returning Video Tapes : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15833363 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants lack of talent exposed tonight.

No pass protection
No pass rush
Defense collapse all three levels

Giants will be pudding at the Eagles dinner



They have a pass rush.

I warned you guys. You can't miss all of camp and the preseason and just play. Our two top edge rushers are not ready for the season. Combine that with Leonard Williams being out.


The real alpha edge guys would have shown something against a super poor pass pro OL.

Thibs will probably be fine, but people here act like we got Myles Garret reincarnate and everyone just passed because he was a name. Meanwhile dude that did go number 1 overall looks like an actual freak.
WR and OL let us down  
5BowlsSoon : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
So now we have Richie-Sills- and ?

Obviously Golladay, Toney, and Robinson don’t seem to be able to get on the field….
RE: Very frustrating game  
stoneman : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15833302 Ben in Tampa said:
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To watch.


Disappointed in the D. Seems everything rests on the shoulders of Jones and Barkley to produce. Should be the D winning or losing for us. Did the Dallas D make it to 20 pressures ;(
RE: The coaching staff  
Greg from LI : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15833372 santacruzom said:
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Led the Giants to a one score loss, quite a feat for a team that routinely gets embarrassed on national TV and was mostly assembled by arguable the worst GM of the 2000's.

To me, this is a moral victory.


I feel good about the coaching staff. If the front office can find them players, I think the future will be right.

Processes not results are the key this year. They simply don’t have enough talent as of now to expect many wins.
RE: Our O-Line is terrible and our receiving corps is terrible  
FranknWeezer : 9/26/2022 11:34 pm : link
In comment 15833340 Anakim said:
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And we got NO outside pressure on Cooper fucking Rush, some game-manager scrub.


Zero. I swear we didn't hurry a single throw. Thibs and Ojulari completely invisible. Incredible.
…..  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/26/2022 11:35 pm : link
Going into the offense - gmen will have to address:

QB1
OG
C
WR1
WR2
TE1
ILB1
ILB2
CB2
CB3

Eek
RE: RE: RE: Hopefully AB and OBj  
jnoble : 9/26/2022 11:35 pm : link
In comment 15833432 beatrixkiddo said:
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Sign tomorrow. Otherwise going to be tough to watch this pass O.



You seriously want the Giants to sign Antonio Brown? You must be as crazy as he is



Name a WR on our roster that is better?


And hypothetically he would play how many games before his brain snaps and he quits on us mid game like he did the Patriots?...
He's a nutcase. Forget it.
RE: …..  
Amtoft : 9/26/2022 11:36 pm : link
In comment 15833454 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Going into the offense - gmen will have to address:

QB1
OG
C
WR1
WR2
TE1
ILB1
ILB2
CB2
CB3

Eek


You left off WR3 and WR4
And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based  
Returning Video Tapes : 9/26/2022 11:36 pm : link
on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.
RE: There's a lot going on with this offensive line  
jhibb : 9/26/2022 11:36 pm : link
In comment 15833065 BigBlueBuff said:
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and the below average receivers, but damn, Daniel Jones needs to stop holding onto the ball so long waiting for things to develop. It's just maddening that he never seems to throw it in rhythm unless it's a slant.


Yeah, sometimes you have to trust your receivers to get open between the time you throw and the time the ball gets to them. But can you blame him for not having a high level of trust? Like when the guy slips and falls and it ends up looking like a bad throw and INT to end the game. Ugh.

It's just a bad situation all around with this offense, because nobody/no position is good enough to overcome the weaknesses of the other positions.
RE: And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
In comment 15833465 Returning Video Tapes said:
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.


I'm sure you said the same thing about our left tackle his rookie season.
Welp…  
trueblueinpw : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
Back to earth fella’s. Need to win next week. If we make it to the quarter poll 3-1 I’ll take that.

Look, the talent just isn’t on the field. Receivers are bad, they’re still a lot of work and more talent needed on the line. On defense, we just don’t have any playmakers. There’s nothing on defense that changes the game. Nothing. And Specials don’t make plays either. All of this is pretty clear playing a team like Dallas. And let’s be honest about Dallas, they ain’t that great themselves. We had their backup QB1 and he gave us more than we could handle. Giants are still a bad team. Rebuilding. Sure. But still bad.

If there’s anything to worry about it’s the coaching which didn’t seem to be great tonight. I know DaBALLS can’t make much with the lousy personnel. But it didn’t seem like a great game for the coaches.
I think we to need explore a trade for a WR...  
bw in dc : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
by dangling Barkley.

If Shep is out, we really are thin at the position, especially because you can't count on the Apathy Asses - Golladay and Toney.
The  
AcidTest : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
OL and DL were bad. Jones had no protection and we generated no pass rush. No sacks against Rush, a backup QB. Nothing from our WRs. Golladay and Toney have done zero this year, and now Shepard is likely done for the year as well.

Jones was running for his life the entire night. He played very well.

Neal and KT were disappointing, but both are rookies and KT is likely still recovering from his injury.

Barkley, Jackson, and Gano also played well.

Barkley gonna get a work out  
Kev in Cali : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
We have nothing left for offense.

Shitty game
Tonight might have set a record for terrible takes  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/26/2022 11:37 pm : link
On the game and post game thread
RE: John Mara  
jvm52106 : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15833433 Ike#88 said:
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had to of pushed for Daniel Jomes as an Eli lookalike and here we are. Things need to change and if the new GM is getting pressure from the Maras he should resign and walk away. Mara and Gettleman destroyed the franchise. We are a long way from being a contender.


Seriously, one tough loss and this is how some of you respond..

It's a rebuild and it is far from over because of cap shit (KG), a lame duck QB and absolutely nothing at WR!!
I thought a key play was the drop/fumble  
Matt M. : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
on first down by Shepard. That's a ball that should have been caught and should have been a first down. Instead, 2nd and long. That drive went sideways after that.
Neal had a very rough game...hopefully it's a learning experience  
George from PA : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
Leonard William's was severely missed.....the Giants are not good enough to lose their best player

Thibs and Azeez were invisible

Barkley, Thomas and Jones are only one on offense with enough talent.
There are just too many LOSER players on the team.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
Tae Crowder, Darnay Holmes, and Kenny Golladay stand out among them. It’s like having 3 Evan Engrams instead of one.

Evan Neal… that was ugly. I’m not even sure that Thomas was that bad as a rookie.

The play-calling at the end of the half was atrocious and almost bit them in the ass. The Cowboys were giving them the first down and the sideline, but they’re running slants.

Barkley needed to get the ball more often.
Its over  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
Let's get ready for Chicago
RE: And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based  
ryanmkeane : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15833465 Returning Video Tapes said:
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.

He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1
RE: They have got to find a replacement for Crowder somehow  
Matt M. : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15833370 Greg from LI said:
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I lost count of how many tackles he missed
He is brutal to watch.
RE: Dallas  
BillT : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15833356 prdave73 said:
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as much as I have to admit, always out coach the Giants. Their franchise is ran better overall, same with the Eagles.

I didn’t see the out coached. We hung in. Saw the outplayed and out talented.
RE: Slayton  
AcidTest : 9/26/2022 11:38 pm : link
In comment 15833422 Andy in Boston said:
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Must be really fucking up … only guy that can get deep on the team and can’t get any time … crazy.


I was thinking the same thing. Did he even get a snap tonight?
RE: RE: Dallas  
BigBlueinDE : 9/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15833512 BillT said:
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as much as I have to admit, always out coach the Giants. Their franchise is ran better overall, same with the Eagles.


I didn’t see the out coached. We hung in. Saw the outplayed and out talented.


My take as well.
RE: RE: And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based  
jeff57 : 9/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15833508 ryanmkeane said:
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.


He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1


Yes. Thomas had a lot of bad games his rookie season. How quickly peopke forget.
Unfortunately there are going to be games like this  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
I like the Giants' spirit out there, but we need some more horses if we are going to compete with the big boys.

Can't expect to regularly win without at least a few offensive weapons

and Williams is clearly hard to replace on defense.
RE: …..  
jvm52106 : 9/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15833454 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Going into the offense - gmen will have to address:

QB1
OG
C
WR1
WR2
TE1
ILB1
ILB2
CB2
CB3

Eek


Hmm, a little early to worry about your list. WR and QB are clearly not on the roster right now..
Acid  
Andy in Boston : 9/26/2022 11:39 pm : link
I didn’t see him out there once
Jones  
Mook80 : 9/26/2022 11:40 pm : link
doesn't throw anyone open. He doesn't anticipate anything (either pressure or receivers coming out of breaks. He is incredibly slow to process things and does not throw the ball unless he actually sees a guy open. That doesn't work in the NFL. It doesn't work when you have good talent skill positions, and it certainly doesnt work when you have no talent at the skill positions. He's a see it open throw it QB only. The next one of those that is actually successful in this league will be the first.
RE: I think we to need explore a trade for a WR...  
jvm52106 : 9/26/2022 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15833494 bw in dc said:
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by dangling Barkley.

If Shep is out, we really are thin at the position, especially because you can't count on the Apathy Asses - Golladay and Toney.


Agreed.. If a contender loses a QB I would offer up Jones. We need picks to go with our cap space next year.
Eric, why is no one talking about our DE dissappearing act?  
ArcadeSlumlord : 9/26/2022 11:41 pm : link
Where the hell were Azeez And Kayvon tonight? You could have put anyone at QB and Dallas would have won.
Anyone talking about jones tonight just stfu  
OBJ_AllDay : 9/26/2022 11:41 pm : link
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
RE: Jones  
M.S. : 9/26/2022 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15833532 Mook80 said:
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doesn't throw anyone open. He doesn't anticipate anything (either pressure or receivers coming out of breaks. He is incredibly slow to process things and does not throw the ball unless he actually sees a guy open. That doesn't work in the NFL. It doesn't work when you have good talent skill positions, and it certainly doesnt work when you have no talent at the skill positions. He's a see it open throw it QB only. The next one of those that is actually successful in this league will be the first.

Sorry you missed the game, but you can catch the highlights
RE: Its over  
jeff57 : 9/26/2022 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15833505 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Let's get ready for Chicago


Agree. A beatable team.
When you don't score  
Jerry in_DC : 9/26/2022 11:42 pm : link
You're going to play a bunch of close games. You're not going to win them all.

We won 2 close, low scoring games. We lost 1. The games themselves weren't that different.

That's just who we are right now. We're not good this year. It's OK. We're not supposed to be good this year.
The line was terrible tonight, but  
eclipz928 : 9/26/2022 11:42 pm : link
it doesn't matter. The Giants just aren't gonna bring Jones back as the starter after this year just on the chance that he plays better behind a better offensive line - nor should they. This team has remained one of the most anemic offenses in the league through Jones' entire time with the team. He had his chance, time to try something new.
RE: Acid  
jvm52106 : 9/26/2022 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15833528 Andy in Boston said:
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I didn’t see him out there once


Slayton was out there, did nothing.. He and KG are clearly not liked by this staff.
RE: RE: And Neal doesn’t look like an OT. Possibly a great Guard though based  
Mike from Ohio : 9/26/2022 11:43 pm : link
In comment 15833508 ryanmkeane said:
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on his power size and explosiveness. Not sure how you can teach a guy balance though and good feet. Nothing to do with tonight, overall 3 game picture here.


He’s a rookie offensive tackle and he’s going to have ups and downs in year 1


He will have ups and downs, but so far he has had no ups. His pass protection through three games has been laughably bad. He is sometimes barely touching the guys running past him.
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