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fish3321 : 9/27/2022 12:14 am
what if I told you a month ago giants would be 2-1 after 3 weeks, and we were in all 3 games? would you take that? pretty sure you ALL would. No need to point the finger after tonight.

This is not a championship team, its a retooling/rebuilding one. Jones is a tough SOB. All the questions we had about Barkley pre-season appear to be put to bed. Schematically, Wink has hid the giants warts on defense so far.

I've watched every giants game the past 5 years and this is the hardest they have played as a team. This staff has identified some really nice role players like Richie James and Jihad Ward.

We just added Azeez, Thibs and will be getting back Arob, Wandall and most importantly Leo.

Chin up giants fans, its been way worse in the past and the boys are playing hard, given the cap situation Schoen inherited thats all I can ask for.



I love your optimism  
M.S. : 9/27/2022 12:21 am : link

But I see a team with a huge talent void that will probably picking top 5-7 in next year’s draft.

So many holes still to fill
The coaches don't have the horses yet  
Anakim : 9/27/2022 12:25 am : link
But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.
RE: The coaches don't have the horses yet  
M.S. : 9/27/2022 12:33 am : link
In comment 15833855 Anakim said:
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But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.

After tonight, I wouldn’t put QB on that list, unless you’re expecting Daniel Jones to simultaneously block for himself while he’s passing the ball downfield to himself.
RE: RE: The coaches don't have the horses yet  
Anakim : 9/27/2022 12:35 am : link
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But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.


After tonight, I wouldn’t put QB on that list, unless you’re expecting Daniel Jones to simultaneously block for himself while he’s passing the ball downfield to himself.



It certainly is. A) One game doesn't change anything; and B) DJ is in a contract year.
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KDubbs : 9/27/2022 12:38 am : link
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But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.


After tonight, I wouldn’t put QB on that list, unless you’re expecting Daniel Jones to simultaneously block for himself while he’s passing the ball downfield to himself.




It certainly is. A) One game doesn't change anything; and B) DJ is in a contract year.


its ok to cheer for Jones but we all know he's gone after this year. They def need a QB next year. I hope he gets a job and does good somewhere else
The 2-0 record was  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2022 12:39 am : link
fool's gold. Dallas showed just how deficient this team is. Yeah, they're playing hard, but we are still very short on good players. Or maybe it was just the Monday night curse, and we're really a contender.
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M.S. : 9/27/2022 12:42 am : link
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But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.


After tonight, I wouldn’t put QB on that list, unless you’re expecting Daniel Jones to simultaneously block for himself while he’s passing the ball downfield to himself.




It certainly is. A) One game doesn't change anything; and B) DJ is in a contract year.



its ok to cheer for Jones but we all know he's gone after this year. They def need a QB next year. I hope he gets a job and does good somewhere else

I pretty much resigned myself to Jones being gone once Schoen didn’t pick up his option. At this stage I just wish Daniel Jones doesn’t continue to be mauled the way Dallas mauled him tonight.
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Anakim : 9/27/2022 12:42 am : link
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But this team is seriously deficient at quite a few positions. There is reason for optimism that we're doing as well as we are given the lack of talent at certain positions (QB, WR, TE, IOL, ILB, CB...), but there's only so far we can go without quality starters.


After tonight, I wouldn’t put QB on that list, unless you’re expecting Daniel Jones to simultaneously block for himself while he’s passing the ball downfield to himself.




It certainly is. A) One game doesn't change anything; and B) DJ is in a contract year.



its ok to cheer for Jones but we all know he's gone after this year. They def need a QB next year. I hope he gets a job and does good somewhere else


I hope DJ wins a Super Bowl this year
RE: The 2-0 record was  
M.S. : 9/27/2022 12:43 am : link
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fool's gold. Dallas showed just how deficient this team is. Yeah, they're playing hard, but we are still very short on good players. Or maybe it was just the Monday night curse, and we're really a contender.

I thought the Carolina game in particular exposed the Giants, especially its horrid pass blocking.
Greg made a good point last week I think  
adamg : 9/27/2022 12:48 am : link
There's so much parity in the league that play in general kind of sucks. We're actually not that much worse than some of these other teams. The league is just built for mediocrity. We can get lucky and make the playoffs this year. The league is designed that way.
RE: Greg made a good point last week I think  
M.S. : 9/27/2022 12:52 am : link
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There's so much parity in the league that play in general kind of sucks. We're actually not that much worse than some of these other teams. The league is just built for mediocrity. We can get lucky and make the playoffs this year. The league is designed that way.

How can that happen with zero pass rush, zero pass protection and a talent void all up and down the roster, starting at WR?
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adamg : 9/27/2022 12:53 am : link
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There's so much parity in the league that play in general kind of sucks. We're actually not that much worse than some of these other teams. The league is just built for mediocrity. We can get lucky and make the playoffs this year. The league is designed that way.


How can that happen with zero pass rush, zero pass protection and a talent void all up and down the roster, starting at WR?


Look at every other roster with your demands for perfection at every spot and you'll be making a lot of the same comments.
I think people forget how good Dallas is  
Sean : 9/27/2022 12:53 am : link
Giants are probably a 7-10 / 8-9 team this year.
Depending as heavily as the Giants do on rookies  
George from PA : 9/27/2022 5:55 am : link
And rookies and 2nd year players coming off injuries.....
Get those results.

Not one WR would start.....most are PS guys
Given the Weak Spots --  
OntheRoad : 9/27/2022 7:48 am : link

OL, WR, pass rush, etc, it is remarkable that the Giants had possession and a chance to win in the last two minutes.
I think you're right  
TJ : 9/27/2022 7:52 am : link
Still a bad team but at least looks like it belongs in the NFL. That makes the games more fun to watch.
Fighting, competitive  
jeff57 : 9/27/2022 8:19 am : link
Despite a shortage of talent and key injuries.
Dallas is just much more talented.  
cosmicj : 9/27/2022 8:21 am : link
The fact that this was a competitive game is a testament to the coaches.

Also, our Safety tandem is just such a big factor. It really limits the number of big plays the opponents make.

I hope Schoen is already talking to Love’s agents about extending him.
RE: Dallas is just much more talented.  
jeff57 : 9/27/2022 8:23 am : link
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The fact that this was a competitive game is a testament to the coaches.

Also, our Safety tandem is just such a big factor. It really limits the number of big plays the opponents make.

I hope Schoen is already talking to Love’s agents about extending him.


Agree. Love and McKinney are playing quite well.
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