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What QB in the league was winning last night

kelly : 9/27/2022 7:37 am
Behind the giant offensive line and throwing to our wide receivers?

Answer-no one

Jones may not be the solution but he clearly is not the problem.
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RE: As for the Jones argument  
Kmed6000 : 9/27/2022 10:56 am : link
In comment 15834616 ajr2456 said:
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He was far from the problem last night but there’s the little things that elite QBs do that Jones just doesn’t have in him. It’s year 4 and I don’t think a single coaching staff has trusted him to make a change at the LOS. That’s something that compensated for a poor oline. He does a bad job at identifying where the blitz is coming from pre snap, which is another thing that compensates for a poor oline. When has it ever looked like he slid the protection.

There were plays were Cooper Rush even saw there was a mismatch pre snap and got the ball out almost immediately to exploit the mismatch.


Excellent points.
The Giants are in the process of rebuilding the lines.  
Kmed6000 : 9/27/2022 10:58 am : link
It doesn't take 1 offseason. We will rebuild the interior oline next offseason. You can't rebuild a QB whos in year 4 and still doesn't do the things you need a starting QB to do. He's just not the guy unfortunately.
You can bet Tampa Bay is keeping....  
MOOPS : 9/27/2022 10:59 am : link
a close eye on DJ.
SFG  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/27/2022 10:59 am : link
Your a fan. It is what we do lol.

Sean. I am a pretty strong lean to replacing him if they can in the draft. I also recognize that the draft may not present the opportunity. I think this is what JS/BD have to determine this year imv. Somebody has to play the position and the team will need to show progress whether its from the draft or elsewhere.

RE: you don't think defenses would play  
bw in dc : 9/27/2022 11:04 am : link
In comment 15834275 UConn4523 said:
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a Mahomes/Jackson/etc differently than the play Jones? This is a playoff team with those guys.

Jones was dealt a terrible hand in last nights game but he's also not good enough on top of it.


Great post.

Guys like Mahomes and Rodgers see things so much more clearly than Jones. They could check us into better plays and execute much more dependably. And they can put the ball anywhere on the field with better throwing skills.

A unicorn like Jackson brings the added dimension of being one of the best running backs in the game.

Sorry, OP, but this is a classic case where you can't differentiate between QBs who can make chicken salad and those who can't (like Jones).

We lost by a TD last night. To suggest the real franchise QBs in the NFL couldn't close that gap is embarrassing.
RE: You can bet Tampa Bay is keeping....  
Greg from LI : 9/27/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15834651 MOOPS said:
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a close eye on DJ.


bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....sure, sure they are
RE: As for the Jones argument  
JonC : 9/27/2022 11:13 am : link
In comment 15834616 ajr2456 said:
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He was far from the problem last night but there’s the little things that elite QBs do that Jones just doesn’t have in him. It’s year 4 and I don’t think a single coaching staff has trusted him to make a change at the LOS. That’s something that compensated for a poor oline. He does a bad job at identifying where the blitz is coming from pre snap, which is another thing that compensates for a poor oline. When has it ever looked like he slid the protection.

There were plays were Cooper Rush even saw there was a mismatch pre snap and got the ball out almost immediately to exploit the mismatch.


Yep, and for all the gyrations many are making to support Jones, his rating for the game was sub-60 where ~90 is average.
Let’s not go crazy over 1 game by Jones  
SomeFan : 9/27/2022 11:16 am : link
With this o-line, we will likely still be scratching our heads on whether he is the LT QB at year end. He may screw up his career with these hits too. There were a number of plays where his head hit the turf hard.
Joned QBR was 42 last night...  
bw in dc : 9/27/2022 11:21 am : link
and his YPA was way below average at 5+.

I'll give him a break on YPA, but QBR takes into account overall decision making and < 50 is just not good.
QBR  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/27/2022 11:26 am : link
is a really short sighted stat to consider without recognizing the talent around a QB or the situation of the play imv.

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