Yeah, we can say growing pains for Neal and that is true. Some, like Andrew Thomas, turn it around and some don't. Where Neal ends up is anyone's guess.
Leaving Neal aside because we have no idea how that development will ultimately end up, the interior of the line was supposed to be a bit better through some shrewd signings by our new staff. Unfortunately, combined with Lemieux's injury that has not worked out so far. I am probably a little more upset with that than anything else. I feel like whatever we throw at the problem it does not work and that is frustrating. This team does not have a good roster and that is not unexpected, but last night's performance on the OL was historically bad and I felt like we would do better this season than historically bad from that unit
I don't know if its Schoen's fault, Bobby Johnson's fault, Daboll or whoever, but we just were awful last night and have not been good through three games. For the last decade or so, it feels like whatever we throw to fix that problem never works.
We simply didn't have the cap space to address every position adequately.
Shitty talent + injuries + zero cap room is the biggest recipe for disaster there is.
How people expected this team to be .500 or better this year is crazy.
The coaching staff can only hide so much bad personnel
Thanks Gettleman
as bad as the WRs were, they lost that game in the trenches badly.
This game is not indicative of how bad the Giants o-line is. They are average.
The Cowboys pass rush is that good.
Hamilton deserves a shot at right tackle. He can't be worse than Neal. Neal next to AT gives us a strong left side and strengthens the interior.
The Giants need to shake things up on the o- line.
Your expectations need to be lowered, look for incremental signs of progress. NYG is going to struggle against good fronts, and there will be a few surprises as they improve. But, they need more talent and fixing an OL in one offseason was/is a very tall order.
Hamilton deserves a shot at right tackle. He can't be worse than Neal. Neal next to AT gives us a strong left side and strengthens the interior.
The Giants need to shake things up on the o- line.
Uh, no they don't. This ain't Madden.
as bad as the WRs were, they lost that game in the trenches badly.
They just don't have the horses
Williams was out. KT and Azeez are coming back from injury and KT is a friggen rookie who missed most of training camp.
And the Cowboys rookie LT was picked in the first round so they obviously saw something him and the kid has played really well so far this season.
Why do people insist on trying to oversimplifying everything when there are tons of variables?
The FA signings while an upgrade over the mess last year are not much of an improvement add injuries in and we are right back to where we were last season. It's year 1 of a minimum 3 year rebuild.
Neal will improve he is a good tackle and will catch up to the speed of the game.
Dallas ranked third in QB rating against, fourth in pressure percentage, and first in interceptions. They also had the second-best third-down defense in the league last season.
You had to expect this kinda result against this line
We simply didn't have the cap space to address every position adequately.
Shitty talent + injuries + zero cap room is the biggest recipe for disaster there is.
How people expected this team to be .500 or better this year is crazy.
The coaching staff can only hide so much bad personnel
Thanks Gettleman
Outside of Thomas this is a whole new OL with different coaches. Add to that 2 rookies who have to learn on the job.
They need to be given time to learn and jell
Hamilton deserves a shot at right tackle. He can't be worse than Neal. Neal next to AT gives us a strong left side and strengthens the interior.
The Giants need to shake things up on the o- line.
So your answer to Neal taking his lumps at RT as a rookie is to move him to LG -- a positioned he hasn't practiced at with the Giants.
Awesome
Feliciano has been a major disappointment. I wasn't expecting all pro material, but he's been downright awful, Glowinski too. We badly need to upgrade the IOL and WR spots. Neal will be fine, he's not only trying to get up to speed with NFL players, he's also playing a position he hasn't played in over 2 years.
Like Thomas, I believe with a year he will be fine, at least at RT.
But, reports kind of led me to believe that he was "plug and play," even at LT. Instead, seems to have usual Bama o-line deficiencies.
Far more concerned with the WR situation
Unless Neal is injured, that's a bad comparison.
Feliciano has been a major disappointment. I wasn't expecting all pro material, but he's been downright awful, Glowinski too. We badly need to upgrade the IOL and WR spots. Neal will be fine, he's not only trying to get up to speed with NFL players, he's also playing a position he hasn't played in over 2 years.
I believe our run game improves with Lemieux. We were able to run last night IMO
Unless Neal is injured, that's a bad comparison.
He was struggling well before the ankle. He was struggling due to technique. The OL coach then was changing/improving his technique and Thomas wasn't responding yet. He kept lunging and getting beat inside like a drum. It is not a "bad take" or whatever you said.
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There's no comparison to Thomas. His struggles his rookie yearnwere directly related to his foot and ankle injuries.
Unless Neal is injured, that's a bad comparison.
He was struggling well before the ankle. He was struggling due to technique. The OL coach then was changing/improving his technique and Thomas wasn't responding yet. He kept lunging and getting beat inside like a drum. It is not a "bad take" or whatever you said.
There were reports Thomas first hurt his foot in training camp his rookie year and was managing the pain all year. He then had a procedure in the offseason.
This game is not indicative of how bad the Giants o-line is. They are average.
The Cowboys pass rush is that good.
The Giants OL is average. LMFAO
Get a phucquing clue.
That’s a nightmare scenario.
Unless Neal is injured, that's a bad comparison.
That’s not true, Thomas also had technique issues that were impacting his play. IIRC Hassan Reddick had multiple sacks against the Giants in Thomas’s rookie season and he wasn’t the only one! Give Neal time, I think he’ll get better.