It will be a huge decision this offseason. We have so many holes on this roster can we afford to spend on a back who has broken down in the past but has looked terrific thus far?
so that there will be some interest at the trade deadline.
Last night should have been a good reminder to Schoen (if he needed it) and you all that we require as many draft picks as possible to fix this thing...
I think he is playing really well and will be a hot
free agent, not going to be a good investment for the Giants he's a finishing touch to a team on the verge, Giants have much bigger concerns. Pass rush, LB, TE, O-line needs to get fixed or it won't matter what we have in the backfield. We have to get the finances fixed and continue to build through the draft. The tranches is the problem for a decade, not pass rush and no blocking for a decade.
I don't want Barkley back if he's going to cost top five RB money.
I do want him back if he takes starter RB money for a few years (or an incentive-laden deal).
I also want him back because: a) he's easy to root for; b) fun to watch; c) our only proven playmaker on offense right now.
My best guess is it doesn't work - Barkley makes more sense for a contender and this is probably his best shot at a big deal. But I am hoping it does.
I’be heard from a few people that at best he will get is somewhere along the lines of 3 years, $25- $30 million, about half guaranteed with an option for the 3rd year. I think that’s a price that I would bring him back at.
It could be set up similar to Kamara’s restructure
Low cap it’s for the first two years, and a base of about $7 million in the 3rd year that he can opt in to and get paid or go somewhere else to get more
but smart rebuilding teams don't waste that kind of cap space on a RB, especially one that gets hurt a lot. I just don't think his value will be higher than it will be in a few weeks(if he has a good few weeks). He's led to 0 wins for us lol.
Did the week 1 Titans game not happen?
I love him and think this is the best he's looked as a pro
...they can find in the offseason then decide whether or not beating that deal fits their cap strategy. Should do the same for Jones if they're not confident on replacing him with any of their rookie or veteran preferred choices.
Based on way Saquon is playing this year there is no shot his camp let's him play on the Franchise Tag. He will absolutely hold out especially given his injury history. No way he risks the big payout for a 10m FT contract.
Based on way Saquon is playing this year there is no shot his camp let's him play on the Franchise Tag. He will absolutely hold out especially given his injury history. No way he risks the big payout for a 10m FT contract.
Today's lesson:
sharp315 thinks that every player's camp will not allow their player to play on the FT. So far, on two different threads, we have sharp's brilliant insight that there's no way that either DJ or SB would play under the franchise tag.
Now here's what a realistic, intelligent person would say:
The Giants can only tag one of them anyway, if they tag either in the first place. If they tag DJ, he'd sign it so fast the pen would melt. If they tag SB, he'll use the tag as a starting point for a 3+ year contract because the risk of going year-to-year as a RB is too great.
What I know will NOT happen is sharp's suggestion that Barkley would hold out if tagged. Look how that worked out for LeVeon Bell.
See how the season goes and if they are seemingly in
a playoff chase at end of October then maybe just let him play out his deal. If Giants are outside looking in at the trade deadline and a good offer comes calling, then they need to consider it.
I don't see any solid reason for resigning him without letting the market set his price.
Based on way Saquon is playing this year there is no shot his camp let's him play on the Franchise Tag. He will absolutely hold out especially given his injury history. No way he risks the big payout for a 10m FT contract.
Today's lesson:
sharp315 thinks that every player's camp will not allow their player to play on the FT. So far, on two different threads, we have sharp's brilliant insight that there's no way that either DJ or SB would play under the franchise tag.
Now here's what a realistic, intelligent person would say:
The Giants can only tag one of them anyway, if they tag either in the first place. If they tag DJ, he'd sign it so fast the pen would melt. If they tag SB, he'll use the tag as a starting point for a 3+ year contract because the risk of going year-to-year as a RB is too great.
What I know will NOT happen is sharp's suggestion that Barkley would hold out if tagged. Look how that worked out for LeVeon Bell.
Lev Bell signed for 35m guaranteed from the Jets. Check my math but I think 35m is more than 10m. You might laugh at Lev Bell but he walked away with a lot of money in his pocket that might not have happened if he played on the Tag and got injured.
Realistically this will be Saquon's only Free Agent contract. He is not going to play into his 30s based on his injury history. He is going to find a suitor who will pay 30 to 40 million guaranteed. He will not risk another a career ending injury for a 10m tag.
Whether DJ would play on the Tag is irrelevant - Giants are not going to Tag him at 30m when his 5th year option that they just declined was only 22m.
I realize math isn't your strong suit but try to keep up.
Last night should have been a good reminder to Schoen (if he needed it) and you all that we require as many draft picks as possible to fix this thing...
I do want him back if he takes starter RB money for a few years (or an incentive-laden deal).
I also want him back because: a) he's easy to root for; b) fun to watch; c) our only proven playmaker on offense right now.
My best guess is it doesn't work - Barkley makes more sense for a contender and this is probably his best shot at a big deal. But I am hoping it does.
I’be heard from a few people that at best he will get is somewhere along the lines of 3 years, $25- $30 million, about half guaranteed with an option for the 3rd year. I think that’s a price that I would bring him back at.
Did the week 1 Titans game not happen?
Today's lesson:
sharp315 thinks that every player's camp will not allow their player to play on the FT. So far, on two different threads, we have sharp's brilliant insight that there's no way that either DJ or SB would play under the franchise tag.
Now here's what a realistic, intelligent person would say:
The Giants can only tag one of them anyway, if they tag either in the first place. If they tag DJ, he'd sign it so fast the pen would melt. If they tag SB, he'll use the tag as a starting point for a 3+ year contract because the risk of going year-to-year as a RB is too great.
What I know will NOT happen is sharp's suggestion that Barkley would hold out if tagged. Look how that worked out for LeVeon Bell.
I don't see any solid reason for resigning him without letting the market set his price.
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Based on way Saquon is playing this year there is no shot his camp let's him play on the Franchise Tag. He will absolutely hold out especially given his injury history. No way he risks the big payout for a 10m FT contract.
Today's lesson:
sharp315 thinks that every player's camp will not allow their player to play on the FT. So far, on two different threads, we have sharp's brilliant insight that there's no way that either DJ or SB would play under the franchise tag.
Now here's what a realistic, intelligent person would say:
The Giants can only tag one of them anyway, if they tag either in the first place. If they tag DJ, he'd sign it so fast the pen would melt. If they tag SB, he'll use the tag as a starting point for a 3+ year contract because the risk of going year-to-year as a RB is too great.
What I know will NOT happen is sharp's suggestion that Barkley would hold out if tagged. Look how that worked out for LeVeon Bell.
Lev Bell signed for 35m guaranteed from the Jets. Check my math but I think 35m is more than 10m. You might laugh at Lev Bell but he walked away with a lot of money in his pocket that might not have happened if he played on the Tag and got injured.
Realistically this will be Saquon's only Free Agent contract. He is not going to play into his 30s based on his injury history. He is going to find a suitor who will pay 30 to 40 million guaranteed. He will not risk another a career ending injury for a 10m tag.
Whether DJ would play on the Tag is irrelevant - Giants are not going to Tag him at 30m when his 5th year option that they just declined was only 22m.
I realize math isn't your strong suit but try to keep up.
Famous last words.
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I realize math isn't your strong suit but try to keep up.
Famous last words.
What a compelling argument.