But Jones had a somewhat better game against Dallas than Burrow did. Nobody's saying Jones is equal to Burrow, never mind better. It's more a matter of how good the Dallas D is.
He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
That's not really true. Jones has had at least one season where he displayed very good or yes, even elite deep ball accuracy.
He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
Giants fans have already made up their minds regarding Jones and there seems like there is nothing that will change it. I think in this game after taking the lead it seems like the Giants thought they had this game won. I don't like that it took 3 sacks and all the pressures before they starting giving Neal more help. After looking at tape on their rookie and what the Dallas D Line was doing to other teams there should have been a better game plan prepared to account for the pressure that was sure to come.
He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
That's not really true. Jones has had at least one season where he displayed very good or yes, even elite deep ball accuracy.
Out of a sample size of 39 throws. And then the next season he was near the bottom. That's a noisy, meaningless stat.
And for the uninformed, Burrow led a comeback that tied the game at 17 when Cincy trailed the entire game ON THE ROAD. Dallas won at the buzzer on a 50yd FG.
that matter: Schoen and Daboll’s. The latter seems like he sees improvement. In fact,Jones WAS better last night. Quicker, more decisive, under HEAVY pressure.
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
The ridiculous excuses and comparisons you guys make are the same things other fanbases would try to use to invalidate Eli. Nevermind that Burrow got his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season and that Jones had never even been above .500 until this year.
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
Jesus this what aboutism is exhausting
It is... It's not stopping people from doing it. There are constant comparisons to other QBs on this forum. So why not add some historical ones for comparisons too!
The ridiculous excuses and comparisons you guys make are the same things other fanbases would try to use to invalidate Eli. Nevermind that Burrow got his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season and that Jones had never even been above .500 until this year.
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
Because some of us can identify that the rest of the team(offense) is absolute dogshit barring maybe 2 or 3 other guys. Keep it going Dunk, if you think Jones was the reason we lost last night I'd like to hear why.
RE: RE: The DJFC are an embarrassment to the fanbase
The ridiculous excuses and comparisons you guys make are the same things other fanbases would try to use to invalidate Eli. Nevermind that Burrow got his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season and that Jones had never even been above .500 until this year.
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
Because some of us can identify that the rest of the team(offense) is absolute dogshit barring maybe 2 or 3 other guys. Keep it going Dunk, if you think Jones was the reason we lost last night I'd like to hear why.
The rest of the offensive roster is mostly comprised of shit, I'm not denying that.
But let me slow this down for you:
It... doesn't... matter... anymore.
If the rest of the offense needs to be rebuilt again, it makes no fucking sense to spend veteran QB money on a QB who is - AT BEST - still an unknown. If DJ needs everything around him to be clicking, then he's no different than a rookie QB needing everything around him as well, except that the rookie QB resets the cap clock at that (expensive) position.
There's no incomplete option at the end of this marking period. Jones either earns his next contract or he's gone. And if you care about the Giants more than you care about just one player, you should be fine with that, because it's the correct path toward constructing a roster on time.
don't think he said anything about Jones being as good a QB or better than Burrow. Looking at their performances against the Cowboys is a fairly interesting exercise if you put down the gloves for a second.
not sure what to make of it, but at least we can all agree that Cowboys defense packs quite a punch!
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
Some say Jones is not the answer. Ok. Who is the answer? I don't see any college QB right now that is better than jones.
How about Garopalo? Jones can step out of an end zone just as well.
Winston? Talk about a turnover machine
I guarantee you if Jones hits the open market he will have multiple teams offering him a big contract.
Other teams see our pathetic o line and receiving core and know that with a decent supporting cast and coaching Jones is a top 15 quarterback.
We aren't scoring points because our o line and receivers suck.until that changes it will be tough to score points and win.
Not Jones is even close to the conversation as Burrow
People trying to stump for Jones using this game as a positive shows just how low the bar is
And I’m a friggen Jones fan
Why can't we? Jones had a better statistical game with less help around him.
Some say Jones is not the answer. Ok. Who is the answer? I don't see any college QB right now that is better than jones.
How about Garopalo? Jones can step out of an end zone just as well.
Winston? Talk about a turnover machine
I guarantee you if Jones hits the open market he will have multiple teams offering him a big contract.
Other teams see our pathetic o line and receiving core and know that with a decent supporting cast and coaching Jones is a top 15 quarterback.
We aren't scoring points because our o line and receivers suck.until that changes it will be tough to score points and win.
Which is why you don’t pay an average Qb like Jones top Qb money. He doesn’t deserve that franchise Qb money. He deserves Tyrod Taylor money
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He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
That's not really true. Jones has had at least one season where he displayed very good or yes, even elite deep ball accuracy.
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He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
Giants fans have already made up their minds regarding Jones and there seems like there is nothing that will change it. I think in this game after taking the lead it seems like the Giants thought they had this game won. I don't like that it took 3 sacks and all the pressures before they starting giving Neal more help. After looking at tape on their rookie and what the Dallas D Line was doing to other teams there should have been a better game plan prepared to account for the pressure that was sure to come.
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He doesn't have a number one receiver like Burrow.
Shit I would love to have his number 2 ( Higgins ) here.
He doesn't have the ability. Time to face facts. Jones with those receivers would still be throwing nothing but slants, curls and 4 yard outs. That's what he can do.
That's not really true. Jones has had at least one season where he displayed very good or yes, even elite deep ball accuracy.
Out of a sample size of 39 throws. And then the next season he was near the bottom. That's a noisy, meaningless stat.
Jones's QBR was 42. His passer rating was 58.
Burrow's QBR was 50. His passer rating was 90.
So, I'm not sure what those "QBRs" are.
And for the uninformed, Burrow led a comeback that tied the game at 17 when Cincy trailed the entire game ON THE ROAD. Dallas won at the buzzer on a 50yd FG.
If I recall correctly that was Burrows first action since rupturing his appendix three weeks earlier.
Bingo
Don't they want to stop watching shitty football? Don't they want to win?
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Jones to Burrow. Burrow is a much better QB.
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
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Jones to Burrow. Burrow is a much better QB.
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
Jesus this what aboutism is exhausting
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
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Jones to Burrow. Burrow is a much better QB.
Do believe if Jones and Burrow's traded places Burrow would do much better than Jones has done on this team?
How about a 2 time Super Bowl MVP and one of most clutch QBs or all time? Would you say he was better than Burrow? How did he look behind a horrible OL and throwing to PS receivers?
Jesus this what aboutism is exhausting
It is... It's not stopping people from doing it. There are constant comparisons to other QBs on this forum. So why not add some historical ones for comparisons too!
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
Because some of us can identify that the rest of the team(offense) is absolute dogshit barring maybe 2 or 3 other guys. Keep it going Dunk, if you think Jones was the reason we lost last night I'd like to hear why.
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The ridiculous excuses and comparisons you guys make are the same things other fanbases would try to use to invalidate Eli. Nevermind that Burrow got his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season and that Jones had never even been above .500 until this year.
What is it about Jones that makes you tools root for him more than you root for the team itself?
Because some of us can identify that the rest of the team(offense) is absolute dogshit barring maybe 2 or 3 other guys. Keep it going Dunk, if you think Jones was the reason we lost last night I'd like to hear why.
The rest of the offensive roster is mostly comprised of shit, I'm not denying that.
But let me slow this down for you:
It... doesn't... matter... anymore.
If the rest of the offense needs to be rebuilt again, it makes no fucking sense to spend veteran QB money on a QB who is - AT BEST - still an unknown. If DJ needs everything around him to be clicking, then he's no different than a rookie QB needing everything around him as well, except that the rookie QB resets the cap clock at that (expensive) position.
There's no incomplete option at the end of this marking period. Jones either earns his next contract or he's gone. And if you care about the Giants more than you care about just one player, you should be fine with that, because it's the correct path toward constructing a roster on time.
Do you see anyone blaming him for last night?
I dunno. It seems many here are claiming those numbers are good.