Is Gettleman the worst GM in NFL history ?

Being competitive in each game so far says a lot about this coaching staff and the direction of the arrow.

And an arrogant douche along the way, too.

The Giants Ownership group from 2013 to 2021 was the worst

Gettleman was just part of the puzzle, but I almost don’t even blame him because ownership enabled the status quo

They stuck with Reese too long and then subbed in Gettleman because they knew he wouldn’t try to do anything drastically different

Gettleman was who we thought he was. Is was Ownership that caused this mess

...his free agent signings were infinitely worse.

But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top.

I think the real salt on the wound was Gettleman's attitude and arrogance.

I don't know if he is truly the worst, but he was the most unprofessional GM I have ever seen.

He really embarrassed the NYG brand. And further exposed Mara's incompetent decision making as an NFL owner.

That "process" to pick DG as the GM may have been the worst process in NFL history.

In comment 15835164 terz22 said:

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But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top.

+1

He did little to move the needle on the OL and front 7. These have been long standing issues for the Giants. He is a big failure for this reason imv. I think the mandate had a impact on his first year but still plenty of time to address the franchises two biggest issues taking the QB out of the equation imv.

Yes IMO.

In comment 15835164 terz22 said:

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But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top.

I think Reese is worse than Matt Millen, he just had more leash. He had a better record than Gettleman did (went 7-9)

Apparently Millen did preside over the worst 8-year tenure in NFL history, but if Gettleman had stayed that long he may have topped it.

In comment 15835171 bw in dc said:

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I think the real salt on the wound was Gettleman's attitude and arrogance. I don't know if he is truly the worst, but he was the most unprofessional GM I have ever seen. He really embarrassed the NYG brand. And further exposed Mara's incompetent decision making as an NFL owner. That "process" to pick DG as the GM may have been the worst process in NFL history.

What is more infuriating is that by all accounts Maras preference was to elevate Abrams and keep Judge. Seeing Pat Hanlon feud with people on twitter who dare say anything negative about management also pissed me off. Thank god Tisch intervened and they seem to have competent people running the show now. I just really hope Mara keeps his hands off going forward.

That he wouldn't answer the phone to listen to trade up offers?

The arrogance of that dude. I defended him for some things, but overall he was a disaster, and yes, I think he's worse than Millen because of the state of the franchise he left this team in.

In comment 15835181 Bear vs Shark said:

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In comment 15835164 terz22 said: Quote: But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top. I think Reese is worse than Matt Millen, he just had more leash. He had a better record than Gettleman did (went 7-9)

Whoops, NOT Reese, DG. Reese is much better than DG and Millen both, even if the end sucked.

We merely needed to give DG more time. He had us heading in the right direction.

Do you realize the level of incompetence required to sink a monumentally shitty roster into catastrophic cap hell while your starting QB is still on his rookie deal?

In comment 15835197 BrettNYG10 said:

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We merely needed to give DG more time. He had us heading in the right direction.

Lol. Paul Dottino will go to his grave believing that to be the case .

In comment 15835181 Bear vs Shark said:

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In comment 15835164 terz22 said: Quote: But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top. I think Reese is worse than Matt Millen, he just had more leash. He had a better record than Gettleman did (went 7-9)

What???

In comment 15835210 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 15835181 Bear vs Shark said: Quote: In comment 15835164 terz22 said: Quote: But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top. I think Reese is worse than Matt Millen, he just had more leash. He had a better record than Gettleman did (went 7-9) What???

Nevermind saw your correction

In comment 15835190 Bear vs Shark said:

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In comment 15835181 Bear vs Shark said: Quote: In comment 15835164 terz22 said: Quote: But worst in history? Matt Millen very hard to top. I think Reese is worse than Matt Millen, he just had more leash. He had a better record than Gettleman did (went 7-9) Whoops, NOT Reese, DG. Reese is much better than DG and Millen both, even if the end sucked.

Reese had a 31 year old two time SB QB and MVP to start 2012. Let that sink in to understand what a great failure it was the next 5-7 years.

In comment 15835155 BigBlue7 said:

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The Giants Ownership group from 2013 to 2021 was the worst Gettleman was just part of the puzzle, but I almost don’t even blame him because ownership enabled the status quo They stuck with Reese too long and then subbed in Gettleman because they knew he wouldn’t try to do anything drastically different Gettleman was who we thought he was. Is was Ownership that caused this mess

Agreed. Lots of deniers here will dispute it with their blue-tinted googles, but that's not surprising.

Calvin Johnson

Focus on the future.

Yes.

Was the worst

Millen was the Lions' CEO from 2001 to 2007 during which time the Lions went 31–81 (.277 winning percentage) only surpassed by the Chicago Cardinals of 1939-45 (10-61-3, .141) and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of 1983–1989 (26–86, .234).

The Wall Street Journal reported that NFL executives admitted in private that Millen "had made more bad draft decisions than anyone else in two centuries." Millen was fired in September of 2008, the year the Lions went winless (0-16). Millen admitted in 2008 that the team's record under his leadership has been "beyond awful."

In comment 15835155 BigBlue7 said:

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The Giants Ownership group from 2013 to 2021 was the worst Gettleman was just part of the puzzle, but I almost don’t even blame him because ownership enabled the status quo They stuck with Reese too long and then subbed in Gettleman because they knew he wouldn’t try to do anything drastically different Gettleman was who we thought he was. Is was Ownership that caused this mess

Yes Yes Yes. DG is the worst as I can't recall anything this bad BUT agree it's ownership that put us in the spot. Gave Reese too much time where he tried to buy his way out of bad drafting then DG just killed this team. Fork in it for 2 more years.

In comment 15835204 Gatorade Dunk said:

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Do you realize the level of incompetence required to sink a monumentally shitty roster into catastrophic cap hell while your starting QB is still on his rookie deal?

This right here..

In comment 15835236 Red Dog said:

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Focus on the future.

...just ignore the parts where Gettleman has fucked up the future.

I don't remember how many GM's the Lion's went through all those years drafting WR's with their #1 picks consecutively, but it sure was funny.

I still cannot believe how many threads, posts and debates we actually had on this site arguing about how DG was managing this roster.

What the hell were some of you all thinking defending this chucklehead so vehemently...

At that point in his career, working for an organization that had descended into the Middle Ages , he was the worst .

In comment 15835155 BigBlue7 said:

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The Giants Ownership group from 2013 to 2021 was the worst Gettleman was just part of the puzzle, but I almost don’t even blame him because ownership enabled the status quo They stuck with Reese too long and then subbed in Gettleman because they knew he wouldn’t try to do anything drastically different Gettleman was who we thought he was. Is was Ownership that caused this mess

I have to agree.
He tried to satisfy ownership to be competitive and put butts in the seats; in the end he did neither, and quite poorly with the competitive part; including coaching selections, and with outmoded analyses at that.
But ownership owns the mess.
They finally woke up.
Sometimes I wonder if the league didn’t step in and force them to hire a real GM and stay out of their way.
They mostly meaning Maras.

Just for taking Carolina to the Super Bowl he’s disqualified

being the GM of a team in 2020. Ideally, he’d be a guy who give reports on a dozen or two players he liked or didn’t like with a few layers of oversight above him. Giving him free reign and full control of the cap has left us in a mess.

In comment 15835453 No1MDGiantsFan said:

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Just for taking Carolina to the Super Bowl he’s disqualified

This is your daily reminder that virtually all of Carolina's best players in that SB season were on the roster before Gettleman was hired.

He had no business running a team as his horrific drafts and decisions proved.

DG was probably the second worst. From strategy, to head coaching picks ,to drafting, trades and horrific free agent signing, he set this team back many years. And yeah he was an arrogant clown on top of incompetent.

In comment 15835453 No1MDGiantsFan said:

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Just for taking Carolina to the Super Bowl he’s disqualified

Both of your handles are as tiresome as they are unintelligent.

There isn't a close second.

In comment 15835155 BigBlue7 said:

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The Giants Ownership group from 2013 to 2021 was the worst Gettleman was just part of the puzzle, but I almost don’t even blame him because ownership enabled the status quo They stuck with Reese too long and then subbed in Gettleman because they knew he wouldn’t try to do anything drastically different Gettleman was who we thought he was. Is was Ownership that caused this mess

Nope. Ownership has its problems for certain.

But Gettleman took a ship that had run aground and made sure that it completely sank...

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In comment 15835526 Sean said:

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A) No you don't.
B) He inherited the vast majority of that Carolina roster. What he did with the Giants is much more indicative of a roster he built himself with carte blanche, high draft picks, and plenty of cap space.

He wasted all of it and still had to borrow from future cap space to finance his atrocity by the end of his tenure. Have you ever seen a team that literally could not afford to field a full roster by the end of the season? That was last year's Giants.

Consider this - with his QB1 on a rookie deal (so the most expensive position was covered by an inexpensive starter), he managed to spend multiple years' worth of cap space on a team that was never above .500 at any point in his four years, and he effectively spent an extra year's worth of cap space by leveraging this season's cap in order to make last year's brutally miscalculated spending spree work. And then couldn't even afford to roster 53 guys by the end of the year.

And then the MFer had the nerve to take selfies on the field for his grand finale. Fuck him.

Shoen took on. Obviously there are only 32 NFL GM jobs in the world, but I'm sure he could have waited a year or taken a job elsewhere, but he chose to take on this challenge. It was either Troy or Buck who said it last night, "A lot of GMs come in to a bad roster or a difficult cap situation. Not many come into both."

I still say Matt Millen is the worst.

His record in Carolina makes him just a bad to meh GM overall - as he did build an NFC Championship team there.

It's like listing Rich Kotite as one of the worst NFL head coaches ever, forgetting he was mediocre to okay in Philly.

In comment 15835461 Greg from LI said:

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In comment 15835453 No1MDGiantsFan said: Quote: Just for taking Carolina to the Super Bowl he’s disqualified This is your daily reminder that virtually all of Carolina's best players in that SB season were on the roster before Gettleman was hired.

And they were mired in 6-8 wins a season mediocrity before Gettleman put the key pieces together that took them to the SB. He was awful here, but that line on his resume is legitimate.

The Dave Gettleman Fan Club begins to dust off their jackets...

...that had anything to do with the Carolina SB-appearing team?

As far as I can tell, it's one player - Kawaan Short, DT.

Who I should add Gettleman signed to a ridiculous $80 million contract in 2017 that crushed Carolina cap-wise and he never lived up to his 2015 season. Sound familiar?

except for the shit that affects the current team like a lousy offensive line, no WRs that are worth a shit and being in cap hell.

Bringing up things that don't affect the current team is just bitching to make yourself feel better. Might as well bitch about Fassel, Reeves and Handley while you're at it.

Is probably one of the worst GMs in all of sports. You couldn’t have done a much worse job across the board then he did while being an arrogant asshole to boot.

Ownership was/is even worse.

I'm still not over two things with Gettleman: 1) the joke hiring process that ended up with him as our GM & 2) the fact he's allowed to parade around/take photos before the final home game vs. WFT last winter.