In the latest GM Shuffle, Lombardi claims that it’s obvious that Daboll doesn’t fully trust Jones. He specifically references the end of the the 2nd quarter. Giants get the ball from the Cowboys with 2:30 seconds left until halftime, with all 3 timeouts. Instead of running a two minute drill to get some points, Daboll is perfectly fine with sitting on the ball and going into half time. Hard to argue against this. It probably is a reflection on Daboll’s outlook on Jones.
Not sure I buy this.
Maybe he doesn't trust his oline yet.
And it's not that he doesn't trust Jones to make the right throw - he doesn't trust Jones to get the ball out to the right read on time.
Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
Would love if there was an All 22 breakdown of every pass play to show what was supposed to happen vs what actually happened.
Stop with facts. That's not allowed. Feelings are what matter.
Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
well now you're just extrapolating bullshit
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Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
well now you're just extrapolating bullshit
"I don't have any other counterpoints so I will just go right for a personal attack"
There was no urgency in that drive. On the first play Jones ran for a a yard and they let the clock run down to the 2 minute warning. On the next play Jones runs for 10 yards, and they let the clock run down to 1:35. It’s pretty apparent that they could’ve done a ton more if they wanted to score on that drive.
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In comment 15835258 BigBlue7 said:
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Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
well now you're just extrapolating bullshit
"I don't have any other counterpoints so I will just go right for a personal attack"
How many balls has Jones thrown away?
Not sure I buy this.
Maybe he doesn't trust his oline yet.
Had no issue going for it, but you need to run something down the field more if your going to do it. Can't leave the cowboys time to run 2 plays following a miss there.
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There was no urgency in that drive. On the first play Jones ran for a a yard and they let the clock run down to the 2 minute warning. On the next play Jones runs for 10 yards, and they let the clock run down to 1:35. It’s pretty apparent that they could’ve done a ton more if they wanted to score on that drive.
They were in a hurry up offense calling the play on the fly. They weren't sitting on the ball. It is amazing what people think they see.
Where do people come up with this shit?
Daboll could be having an illicit love affair with Jones and there would STILL be absolutely no reason for him to believe that THIS offense could hold up in a two-minute drill.
This particular example is absolutely pathetic "proof" as to whether or not Daboll thinks Jones can perform his function competently.
How was it apparent when they went for it on 4th and 2? Holy shit.
And it's not that he doesn't trust Jones to make the right throw - he doesn't trust Jones to get the ball out to the right read on time.
Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
How many times did he "throw the ball away" last night?
Then compare that with the number of times he was running for his life and/or got sacked
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
Would love if there was an All 22 breakdown of every pass play to show what was supposed to happen vs what actually happened.
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But it was very apparent in that drive that Daboll was content to go into half time. I think even Aikman mentioned it on the broadcast.
How was it apparent when they went for it on 4th and 2? Holy shit.
What are you talking about ? They never got to 4th and 2 on that drive.
And it's not that he doesn't trust Jones to make the right throw - he doesn't trust Jones to get the ball out to the right read on time.
Most of the frustration I have seen from Daboll on the sidelines is when Jones comes of his first read and then throws the ball away.
So it's not a frustration with Jones being wreckless, but more of a frustration for Jones not seeing the whole field and pulling the trigger.
Would love if there was an All 22 breakdown of every pass play to show what was supposed to happen vs what actually happened.
How many times did Jones "throw the ball away" last night?
Compare that to how many times was he running for his life and/or got sacked?
He actually picked Philadelphia this season.
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But it was very apparent in that drive that Daboll was content to go into half time. I think even Aikman mentioned it on the broadcast.
How was it apparent when they went for it on 4th and 2? Holy shit.
What are you talking about ? They never got to 4th and 2 on that drive.
I was at the game. They went for it on 4th down and didn't get it. Dallas got the ball back and drove a little bit and missed the FG.
What are you talking about ? They never got to 4th and 2 on that drive.
Yes. Yes they did.
Game play by play - ( New Window )
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In comment 15835288 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But it was very apparent in that drive that Daboll was content to go into half time. I think even Aikman mentioned it on the broadcast.
How was it apparent when they went for it on 4th and 2? Holy shit.
What are you talking about ? They never got to 4th and 2 on that drive.
I was at the game. They went for it on 4th down and didn't get it. Dallas got the ball back and drove a little bit and missed the FG.
1st & 10 at NYG 20
(2:30 - 2nd) D.Jones scrambles right end pushed ob at NYG 21 for 1 yard (C.Golston).
(2:30 - 2nd) Two-Minute Warning
2nd & 9 at NYG 21
(2:00 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Jones up the middle to NYG 31 for 10 yards (D.Lawrence).
1st & 10 at NYG 31
(1:35 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Jones pass short middle to R.James to NYG 45 for 14 yards (J.Lewis).
1st & 10 at NYG 45
(1:15 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Jones sacked at NYG 42 for -3 yards (D.Lawrence).
(1:15 - 2nd) Timeout #1 by DAL at 00:42.
2nd & 13 at NYG 42
(0:42 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Jones pass incomplete short right.
3rd & 13 at NYG 42
(0:35 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Jones pass deep right to K.Golladay to DAL 38 for 20 yards (M.Hooker) [D.Armstrong]. DAL-T.Diggs was injured during the play. PENALTY on NYG-S.Shepard, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at NYG 42 - No Play.
3rd & 23 at NYG 32
(0:24 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Jones pass short left to S.Barkley to DAL 47 for 21 yards (L.Vander Esch; D.Wilson).
(0:24 - 2nd) Timeout #2 by DAL at 00:10.
4th & 2 at DAL 47
(0:10 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Jones pass incomplete short left to K.Golladay.
(0:08 - 2nd) Timeout #1 by NYG at 00:08.
I was fine with it but the pass to Golladay was the questionable part. I thought we could have come up with something better.
Not trusting Jones is an answer in a vacuum but what about not trusting my Oline, or my shitty WR's to able to do anything!!!!
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In comment 15835288 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But it was very apparent in that drive that Daboll was content to go into half time. I think even Aikman mentioned it on the broadcast.
How was it apparent when they went for it on 4th and 2? Holy shit.
What are you talking about ? They never got to 4th and 2 on that drive.
I was at the game. They went for it on 4th down and didn't get it. Dallas got the ball back and drove a little bit and missed the FG.
My bad, you’re right. I forgot they picked up 21 yards on a Barkley short pass.
He will be a fine back-up to some team.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
The only thing I can think of is that he saw how the pressure was constant and didn't "Trust" that to fix itself before the half. That would make sense to me. Once we had a little momentum his decision to keep going made sense to me.
One play doesn’t make the point false.
He will be a fine back-up to some team.
Another yahoo I see.
The line was like the Red Sea opening with Moses. It was terrible most of the night. He was pressured 22 times last night, that is not on him
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doesn't trust Jones when they went for it on 4th and 2 with the risk of not converting that could have lead to 3 points the other way.
One play doesn’t make the point false.
Yes it does. If he didn't trust Jones he would have punted.
It was 10 seconds to go on the Dal 47. Daboll called a safe play to Golladay who should of made the catch and put the team in FG range. There wasn’t much of gamble.