With Shep gone...

was slow, but he played every week and did his job, made every catch. On this team he'd be canonized.

and Slayton

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Beckham!

After he left it's been crickets!

In comment 15835545 gfinop said:

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Beckham! After he left it's been crickets!

What?

Perhaps you missed all of the catastrophic, career-altering injuries suffered by multiple WRs well before Beckham was even a thought.

Giants have a WR curse, but it has nothing to do with Beckham other than him acting like an ass.

we are pretty much in the exact same spot as last year from a personnel perspective...

the worst group in the NFL! There is not one WR who concerns other teams, there is no WR who can get separation, there is not one WR who runs routes on short downs that knows where the 1st down line is! With Jones having little time to throw, WR's who can't get open Jones is doomed!

in the parking with cones for them...

In comment 15835557 Jack Stroud said:

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the worst group in the NFL! There is not one WR who concerns other teams, there is no WR who can get separation, there is not one WR who runs routes on short downs that knows where the 1st down line is! With Jones having little time to throw, WR's who can't get open Jones is doomed!

And yet the Giants have more cap space tied up in WR than any other team. That's the height of incompetence.

... Ruben Randle would be the best WR on this team right now. By miles.

and the idea of Toney, we got nothin. Dallas D was all over them last night. Played tight, no separation. Coaching staff is going to have to scheme them open and rely on TEs like they started to last night. Dallas even started using the same concepts against us!

It started with Steve Smith, destroyed by an injury. Then Nicks and Manningham and Cruz and OBJ and Shep....I mean we need to draft an exorcist.


In comment 15835553 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 15835545 gfinop said: Quote: Beckham! After he left it's been crickets! What? Perhaps you missed all of the catastrophic, career-altering injuries suffered by multiple WRs well before Beckham was even a thought. Giants have a WR curse, but it has nothing to do with Beckham other than him acting like an ass.

Pieces in the room. Can't make chunk plays without good pieces in the room

Matt Breida . Balance off the edges with 2 TE. Just one traditional WR . Breida on reverses , jet sweeps , passes in flat other side from the Barkley influence . 30-35% of the time .

I’m going to flip Buddy Ryan / Bill Parcells here : “If they’re going to play a goal-line defense , I’m going to play a goal-line offense .”

Partial vindication of the much -maligned Red Garrett . Wasn’t so easy after all, was it ?

A running back with no line and a quarterback with no receivers hmmmmm

Maybe play with eight o line, TE, #26 and Jones.

We are better at run blocking, Barkley is excellent and Jones can run. That is our strength

Evaluate "you know who". Don't want to say his name for fear it will turn into a "you know who"thread.

I will argue that we don’t and won’t know until Toney and Robinson are on the field. I could see things getting better.

I will argue that we don’t and won’t know until Toney and Robinson are on the field. I could see things getting better.

Last night was interesting. Late in the 4th quarter you suddenly saw some better protection and Jones nailed both Shep and KG with big time throws and they both dropped them. Get Jones time and performance will get better. I do not understand Sills starting though. That’s a head scratcher. 97 was way worse!

Just saw your post. Absolutely hilarious. The Room...😂😂😂

That Golladay is a professional and gets his act together. With Shep done it's KGs time to put up or shut up. I've been hard on the guy but now he needs to earn his giant paycheck.

but not a difference maker. I don't think the status of our WR group is very different whether he's here or not.

In comment 15835949 Thunderstruck27 said:

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That Golladay is a professional and gets his act together. With Shep done it's KGs time to put up or shut up. I've been hard on the guy but now he needs to earn his giant paycheck.

2019 was a long time ago. He just doesnt have the speed for the NFL. I doubt he makes a team next yr.

Unfortunately this is par for the course.

DJ's 1st 2 years his top targets were Golden Tate, Darius Slayton and Evan Engram.

Then they went out and got Golladay (who sucked) and Toney (who never plays). Slayton and Engram again.

This year, it's just more of the same. His top targets are Richie James, Sills and the rookie Bellinger. The only difference is a healthy Barkley.

Business as usual.

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with Shep and James as our two best receivers - and now we are without Shep

yes -- it's safe to say that the worst has become even worse

losing Shep was a big body blow to the Giants. You could see it on Daniel Jones face on the field after Shep went down -- he looked absolutely crest fallen; as if the wind had been taken out of his sails.

and a lot of motion to this offense, but i think using Jones legs and using Barkley and Breida more needs to be the focus..

It would be nice to get Toney and Robinson back to at least give Jones some quick hitters in the slot..

But i think the focus needs to be Jones and Barkley running and using Breida more to open Barkley in the pass game

In comment 15835640 VinegarPeppers said:

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It started with Steve Smith, destroyed by an injury. Then Nicks and Manningham and Cruz and OBJ and Shep....I mean we need to draft an exorcist. In comment 15835553 Eric from BBI said: Quote: In comment 15835545 gfinop said: Quote: Beckham! After he left it's been crickets! What? Perhaps you missed all of the catastrophic, career-altering injuries suffered by multiple WRs well before Beckham was even a thought. Giants have a WR curse, but it has nothing to do with Beckham other than him acting like an ass.

Throw Burress in there, albeit self-imposed, but another injury non-the-less!

The bigger hits are getting absolutely nothing out of Golladay, Toney and Robinson so far this season based on their respective cap hit or draft status.

Passing game plan needs to be rewritten if hasn't already. Maybe try to force more balls to Saquon and free up some space for the backup WRs/TEs to get open?

Not a good situation unless those 3 named above start contributing something.

In comment 15836273 chick310 said:

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The bigger hits are getting absolutely nothing out of Golladay, Toney and Robinson so far this season based on their respective cap hit or draft status. Passing game plan needs to be rewritten if hasn't already. Maybe try to force more balls to Saquon and free up some space for the backup WRs/TEs to get open? Not a good situation unless those 3 named above start contributing something.

Shep was the guy Jones trusted the most, so yes, he's a big loss, regardless of his cap hit or draft status.

In comment 15835511 Victor in CT said:

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was slow, but he played every week and did his job, made every catch. On this team he'd be canonized.

Yep and botched an on-side kick against the Vikings in a playoff that we lost. That game still haunts me.

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In comment 15836273 chick310 said: Quote: The bigger hits are getting absolutely nothing out of Golladay, Toney and Robinson so far this season based on their respective cap hit or draft status. Passing game plan needs to be rewritten if hasn't already. Maybe try to force more balls to Saquon and free up some space for the backup WRs/TEs to get open? Not a good situation unless those 3 named above start contributing something. Shep was the guy Jones trusted the most, so yes, he's a big loss, regardless of his cap hit or draft status.

I understand he targeted him the most but the efficiency of those targets outside of the one big play vs. Tenn was downright awful. Something like 23 targets for a total of 90 yards.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't helpful but the true loss is not getting the others onto the field and contributing more.