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Interesting point made by Tom Rock regarding NYG offense

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/27/2022 4:13 pm
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday

Want to feel a little better about Giants offense after last night? Here's what Brady's Bucs and Burrows' Bengals did against that same Dallas D:

TB - 19 pts 1 TD 347 total yds 195 pass yds
Cin- 17 pts 1 TD 254 total yds 165 pass yds
NYG - 16 pts 1 TD 336 total yds 169 pass yds
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RE: People seemed to forget how good Dallas is  
nochance : 9/28/2022 7:29 am : link
In comment 15835668 Sean said:
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Yet with practice squad caliber receivers outside of AT a whole new OL with 2 rookies and new coaching. we had a chance to tie in the last drive. Not to mention all the mistakes, drops and bad penalties .
Look at the stark difference between the 2 offenses  
Rudy5757 : 9/28/2022 10:13 am : link
With absolutely no pressure the Dallas O didnt exactly light it up. Its hard to win when you generate no pressure on the QB.

The Giants O and the revamped OL gave up pressure all game. That was one of the worst OL performances I have seen.

So combine the 2 its a bad situation but the silver lining is that we still had a chance to tie the game on the last drive. Maybe we can make a drive if Sills doesnt fall down and cause the INT.
RE: RE: People seemed to forget how good Dallas is  
xtian : 9/28/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15836184 nochance said:
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In comment 15835668 Sean said:

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Yet with practice squad caliber receivers outside of AT a whole new OL with 2 rookies and new coaching. we had a chance to tie in the last drive. Not to mention all the mistakes, drops and bad penalties .

exactly. we were badly outplayed, but even with all the bad OL play, crappy receivers, and zero pass rush, if only those 2 or 3 drops were caught, we tie the game. pretty amazing, really.
Dallas also dropped a sure touchdown themselves and  
Jimmy Googs : 9/28/2022 4:27 pm : link
had an obvious PI on one of their WRs in the end zone that wasn't called. But yeah, the game was close.

Just sayin'...
For anyone saying DJ  
Now Mike in MD : 9/28/2022 5:01 pm : link
in any way contributed to this loss, identify the specific plays he left on the field. Don't talk in generlaities like he doesn;t have "it." Give me 5 mistakes he made.

And I can counter with at least 15 plays he created out of nothing by either scramling for a first down or moving within the pocket with significant pressure bearing down on him and hitting receivers.
Remember when the Giants had  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2022 5:10 pm : link
0 drops and no calls go against them? Yeah me neither.
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BrettNYG10 : 9/28/2022 5:49 pm : link
I think NFL offenses generally have been pretty bad so far - the 16th best offense is average 4ppg less than last year (I didn't check everyone else, obviously).

If you're bullish on Jones (I'm not), I think it's reasonable to point out how terrible everyone else has been too so far.
RE: For anyone saying DJ  
Atari2600 : 9/29/2022 9:24 am : link
In comment 15836880 Now Mike in MD said:
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in any way contributed to this loss, identify the specific plays he left on the field. Don't talk in generlaities like he doesn;t have "it." Give me 5 mistakes he made.

And I can counter with at least 15 plays he created out of nothing by either scramling for a first down or moving within the pocket with significant pressure bearing down on him and hitting receivers.


How do you really know that? It's sort of the other side of the same coin. Unless you know that no receivers are open and what admittedly limited time he has had, isn't enough time, we're pretty much in the same boat.

It has been 3 games so far this season; the facts are he has not thrown for 200 yards or more, or thrown very many TDs.

This has been sort of a continuation of the last season. Am I to believe that #8 never has anybody open and his pass protection is always horrible? It didn't look horrible to me in the TB Bucs game.

At the end of the day Jones might just be scrambling too much because he is afraid to pull the trigger on a pass where someone is not 100% wide open. It's not really a winning formula and Barkley isn't going to be able to be the number 2 receiver and take it to the house every game on break out runs.

Everyone keeps on and on about cooper rush and how if he werre a Giant and Jones a cowboy etc.. Give him credit ; for 2 weeks in a row now he throw for over 200 yards ; had a high rating; helped his team win games by making big throws late in the game.

I think Garrett got it right. Sometimes we are fooled by QBs that can squat 600 lbs and run 4/4 or whatever; that someone who makes great decisions quick and is an accurate passer and good fundamentals player is often discarded as scrap pile material.
Dallas is better,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/29/2022 9:43 am : link
but if Shep and Golladay can catch passes that they should easily catch, we might very well win. Thanks to those two gimps, though.
The offense came out in the 2nd half and scored on its first  
PatersonPlank : 9/29/2022 9:56 am : link
2 possessions, 10 pts, to take a 7pt lead. After that the defense collapsed and didn't stop Dallas at any point during the rest of the game; long TD, long TD, FG.

The defense sucked.

Who cares where Dallas played their first 2 games  
Tom from LI : 9/29/2022 11:13 am : link
This was a divisional game.

Throw everything out the window. It is definitely different intensity.





RE: Remember when the Giants had  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/29/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15836886 UConn4523 said:
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0 drops and no calls go against them? Yeah me neither.

How often does any team have no drops and no unfavorable calls against them?

I would imagine that's a pretty rare scenario for any team.
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