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NFT: Mets vs. Marlins - Game 1: Carrasco

Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 5:08 pm

Starting lineups for today - 9/27/22 - Marlins at Mets
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The remaining injury issue to still be concerned with is Marte's. Rumors were that he'd be back for the Braves series, but IMHO I don't see it in the cards. Be that as it may, the Mets are fully capable and SHOULD win these next two games at home vs. the Marlins before another off-day on Thursday. There's no Alcantara this series, so no reason not to take both of these critical games. Here are the starting pitcher matchups for them both:


Mets' Probable Starting Pitcher matchups for this series
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Here are the Starting pitchers in the Braves @ Nationals matchup going on at just about the same time as the Mets-Marlins game in Queens in about two hours:


Let's go Nats again today (obviously another story next week). Here are some other articles to check out before gametime:

Mets Morning News: Back to Work - Your Tuesday morning dose of New York Mets and MLB news, notes, and links. - By Vasilis Drimalitis | Sep 27, 2022 | 8:30am EDT

Home / Mets News/Morning Briefing: Mets’ Division Lead Shrinks to a Game - Morning Briefing: Mets’ Division Lead Shrinks to a Game - By Mathias Altman-Kurosaki - Updated: September 27, 2022

#LGFM!
Probably jinxing it and Lopez will throw a no hitter  
KDavies : 9/27/2022 6:47 pm : link
but Mets have teed off on him this year. He is 1-3 in 4 starts. Lasted only 16.2 innings with an 11.34 ERA and a 2.34 WHIP
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:07 pm : link
Marlins @ Mets - 9.27.22 - TV: SNY Feed - 7:10 pm EST start from Citi Field

Enjoy :-)

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#LGM!



Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - Marlins @ Mets - 9/27/22 - 7:10 PM EST start - ( New Window )
Braves at Nats links below:  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:12 pm : link
Braves at Nats - Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - 9.27.22

Braves at Nats - 9.27.22 - TV: Braves' Feed

Braves at Nats - 9.27.22 - TV: Nats' Feed
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Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:15 pm : link
Carasco has a relatively low ERA  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 7:17 pm : link
(fingers crossed/ not jinxing it) for a guy who seem to give up a lot of runs in early earnings.

Also, who is the new guy doing the play-by-play?
Bases loaded, one out  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 7:19 pm : link
An ugly way to start the game for Carrassco.
RE: Bases loaded, one out  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 7:22 pm : link
In comment 15835864 Dennis said:
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An ugly way to start the game for Carrassco.


...And the Marlins score. Carrasco having 1st inning problems again?
cookie fucking blows  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:24 pm : link
Biggest start of the season for him and he can't get out of the first without giving up runs.

Buck better have a VERY short leash with him tonight...
McCan't  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:28 pm : link
Sick of him catching.
And now a WP (PB?)  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:28 pm : link
2-0. Inning mercifully over.

Good lord, this team makes it so hard on itself...
RE: cookie fucking blows  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15835871 speedywheels said:
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Biggest start of the season for him and he can't get out of the first without giving up runs.

Buck better have a VERY short leash with him tonight...


+1. I feel the same way. Maybe my expectations of a major league pitcher are too highly unrealistic, but it's disappointing for him to give up two runs immediately.
And a 1-2-3 inning on 8 pitches  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:34 pm : link
Great start
and now 2 on 0 out  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:37 pm : link
time to pull him, Buck...
Bring in T. Williams if there's any trouble like the 1st inning again.  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:37 pm : link
No patience for Cookie's struggles.
Michael Baron on Twitter  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 7:39 pm : link
Said it went right through McCann's legs. Another wild pitch that should have been blocked
LOL - and now Escobar with an error  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:39 pm : link
wow
Mets need to show some heart  
Vanzetti : 9/27/2022 7:39 pm : link
And Buck needs to manage like its a pennant race and not the beginning of June.

Nice 1-2-3 DP  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:40 pm : link
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Got out of it  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:42 pm : link
time to get some runs
That was pretty good  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 7:42 pm : link
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WAS up 2-0  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:43 pm : link
top 3
McCan't should have blocked that slider.  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 7:43 pm : link
That was on him. His game-calling abilities are also questionable. Nido is the better catcher of the two now.
RE: That was pretty good  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:44 pm : link
In comment 15835893 Atari2600 said:
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Nice handle!
thank you  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 7:55 pm : link
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Cookie gives up a rope double  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:58 pm : link
he just doesn't have it tonight
oh for fucks sake  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 7:59 pm : link
4-0 now.

PULL HIM, BUCK!!
Seriously, Carrasco can fuck off. Can’t wait for this  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 8:00 pm : link
washed up dope to be off this team. And take Walker and Ruf with you.
Carrasco is gifted the biggest strikezone I’ve ever see  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 8:02 pm : link
and still fucking sucks.
Phuq off Cookie.  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:02 pm : link
Looks like Williams will be coming in to start the 4th.
Buck should have pulled him after 2  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:03 pm : link
He clearly didn't have it tonight - lucky he didn't give up runs in the 2nd, too.

Have some fucking urgency, Buck!
RE: Buck should have pulled him after 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15835924 speedywheels said:
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He clearly didn't have it tonight - lucky he didn't give up runs in the 2nd, too.

Have some fucking urgency, Buck!


Urgency isn't in Buck's vocabulary.
Braves tie it up  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:05 pm : link
of course they do.
RE: WAS up 2-0  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15835894 speedywheels said:
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top 3


Now tied, 2-2, top 4th.
There is no way the Braves are losing a single game to the Nats  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 8:07 pm : link
Meanwhile, the Mets are acting like Alacantra is pitching.
I'm scared for the playoffs  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 8:07 pm : link
Aside from Max Schwerzer and DeGrom -- anyone else is subject to this -- Carasco, Walker , Bassitt.

What is MaGill's situation anyway? I had high hopes for him but, he is just bullpen now and will be in the playoffs?
...  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:07 pm : link
and meanwhile, they have no baserunners thru 3  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:09 pm : link
Sigh...
RE: ...  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15835934 Optimus-NY said:
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If they don't win the division, that 18 of 40 number will be the reason why
RE: and meanwhile, they have no baserunners thru 3  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15835938 speedywheels said:
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Sigh...


Blame KDavies…
RE: ...  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15835934 Optimus-NY said:
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It really does seem like the Mets play down to their competition, which actually gives me more hope for their chances in the playoffs.
Go Trevor!  
spike : 9/27/2022 8:15 pm : link
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the thing that's concerning to me is in the last month they haven't  
Eric on Li : 9/27/2022 8:16 pm : link
grinded out at bats the way they did for the prior 4.5 months - which was something i recall they were still doing even in june/july when the bottom of the order was brutal.

remember when they had the streaks of high pitch counts for opposing pitchers in the first innings? now it's the opposite. lopez tonight on 36 pitches after 3. they've had some big blow ups and a lot more nights light tonight.

marte out is part of it but canha sees more pitches than anyone and has best obp on the team so not sure why they haven't been able to recreate that in the top 5 like they did earlier this year. especially since vogelbach sees a lot of pitches and escobar got hot.
It appears we do not have functional 4th and 5th starters  
BigBlueNH : 9/27/2022 8:27 pm : link
at this point in the season. Bad timing. Hate to see Carrasco or Walker take the mound in a playoff game. Rather roll the dice with Peterson at this point.
Well..  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:29 pm : link
At this point if they don't win this game it means we need to take 2/3 in Atlanta and win out to guarantee a division win

Still control our own destiny
Pete!!  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:29 pm : link
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mvpete's september splits are going to look insane  
Eric on Li : 9/27/2022 8:30 pm : link
when all said and done.
MVPeeeeeeeeete!  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:32 pm : link
Back in it.
pete  
Gmanfandan : 9/27/2022 8:33 pm : link
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MVPeeeeeeeeete!  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:35 pm : link
Back in it.
can't think of a more clutch met hitter since piazza  
Eric on Li : 9/27/2022 8:36 pm : link
Michael Mayer @michaelmayer22
Pete Alonso has 5 home runs and 16 RBIs in his last seven games.
Maybe D. Murphy in the 2015 playoff run?  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 8:44 pm : link
I don't know his was a short little span but, still point is made -- Alonso is the deal.
I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 8:48 pm : link
and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.
And Williams gives two runs right back  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:49 pm : link
They really don’t want to win the division, it seems.


😡😡😡
And Williams gives two runs right back  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:50 pm : link
They really don’t want to win the division, it seems.


😡😡😡
Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:51 pm : link
Not looking good so far...
RE: I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15835983 Atari2600 said:
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and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.


"T Williams sucks"

Is that a joke?

He's been amazing this season! Best middle relief season since Darren Oliver in 06
RE: Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15835991 Optimus-NY said:
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Not looking good so far...


Can't count on help.. need to take care of business

This just means we need to take minimum of 2 from Braves and 3 of the 4 from Marlins/Nats

Win tomorrow, then win the last 2 series, and division is locked up.
RE: RE: Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15836000 moze1021 said:
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Not looking good so far...



Can't count on help.. need to take care of business

This just means we need to take minimum of 2 from Braves and 3 of the 4 from Marlins/Nats

Win tomorrow, then win the last 2 series, and division is locked up.


I hear you, but this one ain't over yet, although it may feel like it.
its going to be tough for them to win the division  
spike : 9/27/2022 9:00 pm : link
if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.
Would you give Carrasco another start based on his past few  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 9:03 pm : link
performances. especially with the division on the line?
RE: Would you give Carrasco another start based on his past few  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15836004 Optimus-NY said:
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performances. especially with the division on the line?


I wouldn’t have given him this one.

That being said…Buck will absolutely run this nut job out there again for another start. And it will be another stinker. Book it.
RE: its going to be tough for them to win the division  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15836002 spike said:
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if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.


2/3!! It's been my mantra on here for the last 2 months.and that's all it comes down to!!

RE: RE: its going to be tough for them to win the division  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15836007 moze1021 said:
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if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.



2/3!! It's been my mantra on here for the last 2 months.and that's all it comes down to!!


Yeah, we know. Not that simple.

If this franchise want to change the narrative, then win the fucking division. That’s it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.

They are not winning this division, that’s my opinion.
You think the Mets will win 2 of 3 in Atlanta?  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 9:19 pm : link
Right now we dont know if they can beat the Nats 2 of 3
This is why Buck can't win a WS  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 9:40 pm : link
Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.
RE: RE: I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/27/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15835995 moze1021 said:
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and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.



"T Williams sucks"

Is that a joke?

He's been amazing this season! Best middle relief season since Darren Oliver in 06


Did you really think Williams wasn't going to give up at least 2 runs as soon as he came in the game? If not you are not paying attention.
Atlanta 8, Washington 2 in the Top of the 9th now.  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 9:47 pm : link
2 outs
Keep Megill  
spike : 9/27/2022 9:48 pm : link
Off the roster
screw all that  
Gmanfandan : 9/27/2022 9:55 pm : link
Let's put up a crooked number
Final Score - Braves 8, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 10:10 pm : link
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Balkfest!  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 10:11 pm : link
!
RE: This is why Buck can't win a WS  
Rory : 9/27/2022 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15836046 larryflower37 said:
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Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.


I mean why even watch the games.
Well Eddie looked good  
Gmanfandan : 9/27/2022 10:21 pm : link
WC or Div will need him sharp
Damn  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 10:23 pm : link
A 97 win team that controls it's own destiny to win division title against an equally great team...

Reading this thread you'd think it was the Art Howe years..

If they don't win 2 against braves and 3 against Marlins/nats, and the braves win the division, then they deserve it

Well that was disappointing  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 10:30 pm : link
Best of 7 now.
#LFGM
11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 10:38 pm : link
That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it
RE: RE: This is why Buck can't win a WS  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:46 pm : link
In comment 15836087 Rory said:
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In comment 15836046 larryflower37 said:


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Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.



I mean why even watch the games.


Have you watched the last two weeks? I’m assuming no; because if you had, you’d know Buck HAS been managing like shit.

🤷🏻‍♂️
When they lose the division, it won’t be hard to see why  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:49 pm : link
Swept by the Cubs and losing tonight to the awful marlins will be the reason why.

Utterly embarrassing.
So now we and the Braves are tied.  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 10:50 pm : link
When will I learn that the Mets will almost always break my heart?
if they score first they win  
spike : 9/27/2022 10:53 pm : link
If the other team scores first, they win. Conversely, when our starters have poor outings, we tend to lose.
Not making a move for a DH and bullpen  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 10:57 pm : link
At the deadline is going to haunt this team.
They swung and missed on all their moves, also the loss of Marte is really hurting this team.
Bad sign limping into the playoffs.
RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15836108 Snablats said:
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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it


As usual, you’re talking out of your ass.

Losing these games has nothing to do with lack of playoff experience. They are a team with several weaknesses on offense and it has reared its ugly head at many different points this season.

As you yourself pointed out - walker and cookie have had several clunkers between them. It’s not because of no playoff experience; it’s because they just aren’t very good.

Hard to blame the offense when the pitching puts them in such a huge hole early in games.
RE: Not making a move for a DH and bullpen  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15836129 larryflower37 said:
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At the deadline is going to haunt this team.
They swung and missed on all their moves, also the loss of Marte is really hurting this team.
Bad sign limping into the playoffs.


Naquin and vogelbach have been Ok. Ruf and givens, not so much
RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15836108 Snablats said:
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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done


This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it


And why doesn’t 2020 count? Because it fucks with your narrative?

Playoff baseball is playoff baseball; it doesn’t matter if there were 60 or 160 games to get there, the pressure of win-or-go-home is the same.

PS - Pete, Escobar, McNeil and vogelbach have “no playoff experience” and look at their September numbers. He LLP, even nido has very good September numbers.

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bullshit narrative.

🤷🏻‍♂️
RE: RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 11:22 pm : link
In comment 15836131 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15836108 Snablats said:


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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it



As usual, you’re talking out of your ass.

Losing these games has nothing to do with lack of playoff experience. They are a team with several weaknesses on offense and it has reared its ugly head at many different points this season.

As you yourself pointed out - walker and cookie have had several clunkers between them. It’s not because of no playoff experience; it’s because they just aren’t very good.

Hard to blame the offense when the pitching puts them in such a huge hole early in games.

They are better than most 4/5 starters in baseball. And you were saying in August that Carrasco could be the 3rd playoff starter!

Lack of experience is definitely a factor in the hitting and in losing games to bad teams this month. Why do you think teams in all sports trade for veterans with playoff experience at trading deadlines?
I don't really care if the Mets don't get a first round bye.  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 11:56 pm : link
Throughout baseball history, many teams have won championships without a first round bye. What really pisses me off is the f--king smarmy, self righteous Braves fans, once again crowing about how wonderful America's Team is, how lucky the Mets are, and how they put us in our place.
I hope they all get terminal ingrown toenails and have to have their f--king toenails pulled off. The motherf--kers.
This season the Wild Card round is different  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 12:09 am : link
And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage
RE: This season the Wild Card round is different  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 12:11 am : link
In comment 15836160 Snablats said:
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And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage


Right, you're right. I didn't realize that😁
RE: RE: This season the Wild Card round is different  
Gmanfandan : 9/28/2022 7:14 am : link
In comment 15836162 Dennis said:
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And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage



Right, you're right. I didn't realize that😁
It also lets you reset your rotation - since the WC starts a day after the season ends.
It is a big deal
Walker going tonight versus Luzardo who has had a couple  
NYGgolfer : 9/28/2022 11:37 am : link
of decent outings in a row. Braves sending Odorizzi against the Marlins around same time.

Left with playing out a best of the final 7 games now.
The extra days off seemingly didn't help Carrasco  
Vanzetti : 9/28/2022 12:09 pm : link
You always worry about that with a guy who needs pinpoint control because of diminishing stuff.

Probably would have been better to skip Carrasco since he is likely going to pen in postseason any way.

But hindsight is always 20/20. That said Trevor Williams has been hit last couple of outings. Buck needed to go earlier to his top guys in the pen. They are all rested with the off days.

one of the biggest areas of encouragement for the org moving forward  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 2:43 pm : link
Michael Mayer @michaelmayer22
3m
The Mets 2022 minor league season is over.

-3 of 5 stateside affiliates made playoffs with 1 title
- multiple top prospects made MLB debut
- Francisco Álvarez ascended to be one of the top prospects in baseball
- Strong draft helped catapult farm to top 10 system
great to see that post-injury alvarez came back strong in sept  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 3:16 pm : link
Michael Mayer @michaelmayer22
1m
Here’s how Mets top prospect Francisco Álvarez did in 2022 between Double-A and Triple-A in 112 games:

.260/.374/.511, 22 2B, 27 HR, 78 RBI

The 20-year-old finished the season strong with a 1.079 OPS in September.
would be odd to not bring the extra catchers up too  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 3:21 pm : link
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Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
With Triple-A Syracuse ending its season today, the Mets are bringing some players back to New York. Dominic Smith, Deven Marrero, Álex Claudio and Stephen Nogosek all have lockers in New York.

No roster moves right now, but it behooves the team to keep some extra guys fresh.
No Alvarez?  
Vanzetti : 9/28/2022 3:41 pm : link
How do you not have a third catcher in the mix?

Sandy still trying to valorize the McCann trade. Makes me wonder if Kyle was one of those who pushed to sign McCann
LOL  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 8:21 pm : link
Losing again tonight, 2-0 top 5

Incredible how they suck vs bad teams. At home no less!
I think the only thing that the Marlins are good at  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 8:22 pm : link
is playing the role of late season spoiler for the Mets. Jesus fucking Christ.
Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 8:26 pm : link
Bottom 4th.
LOL  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 8:30 pm : link
Losing again tonight, 2-0 top 5

Incredible how they suck vs bad teams. At home no less!
Zzzzzz  
spike : 9/28/2022 8:32 pm : link
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Zzzzzz  
spike : 9/28/2022 8:33 pm : link
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i dont know what happened to the team that used to gas pitchers early  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 8:34 pm : link
but against some bad teams they are just mailing it in with bad at bats and letting starters easily go 6+ against them.

at this point im less worried about them showing up for the braves series (i think they will) than I am that they will be able to keep pace with whatever atlanta does tonight and after that series since the braves don't seem to have this issue against bad teams. they pull these games out.
I can’t believe this team is limping to the finish line  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 8:39 pm : link
after the season they’ve had. It’s really frustrating.
This team  
five5 : 9/28/2022 8:45 pm : link
Got incredible starting pitching the first 100+ games. My concern was always their offense. IMO they r a bat or two short. They were getting huge hits early on and now that’s not happening. There is no urgency/energy on this team and that includes the manager. Sometimes it takes the mgr to get tossed to get them going but I guess Buck doesn’t see it that way.
2 soft grounders by Escobar at 3b  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 8:47 pm : link
he's hitting now so it is what it is but if Guillorme is getting starts going forward ideally they will be at 3b with mcneil at 2b. escobar's range is really limited.
Once again, Buck waits too long to pull a pitcher.  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 8:56 pm : link
Grrrr….
Gary finally brings up the truth  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 8:58 pm : link
The hitters are gripping the bat too tightly, ie they're choking
Lol, this team is going to lose both games to the Marlins  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 9:01 pm : link
Pathetic. This team is destined give away the division and be a one and done in the playoffs.

Change my mind.
RE: Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15837064 Dennis said:
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Bottom 4th.


Still 2-1, top 7th.
RE: RE: Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15837129 Dennis said:
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Bottom 4th.



Still 2-1, top 7th.


Say goodbye to 1st place. Hello wildcard.
This is brutal  
MyNameIsMyName : 9/28/2022 9:07 pm : link
Smh
is that 3 2-out runs allowed tonight or all 4?  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:08 pm : link
unable to win even 1 game against the marlins at home when they need it, but the manner in which they haven't generated a single rally in the 2 games is almost unfathomable.
What was it that Clint Eastwood said in Dirty Harry?  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:11 pm : link
Mans gotta know his limitations?
Hello Limitations.
i wonder if guillorme/escobar play themselves into 3b/DH vs. LHP  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:15 pm : link
amazing that escobar got himself to 20 homers this year after the start.

is there any argument to giving Ruf at bats over him or guillorme or taking guillorme's glove out of a game?
RE: i wonder if guillorme/escobar play themselves into 3b/DH vs. LHP  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15837158 Eric on Li said:
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amazing that escobar got himself to 20 homers this year after the start.

is there any argument to giving Ruf at bats over him or guillorme or taking guillorme's glove out of a game?


Hope so - Ruf just cannot have another bat in these next 7 games. Or the playoffs, for that matter...
Braves tie it up  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 9:31 pm : link
Of course they do
RE: RE: Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15837129 Dennis said:
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Bottom 4th.

2-2 now. Top 8th.



Still 2-1, top 7th.
RE: RE: RE: Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15837182 Dennis said:
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Bottom 4th.

2-2 now. Top 8th.



RE: What was it that Clint Eastwood said in Dirty Harry?  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15837145 Dennis said:
[quote] Mans gotta know his limitations?

Sorry, it was in Magnum Force.
well this is the chance - a lefty vs. pete as tying run  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:37 pm : link
have to keep the train moving. Lindor and Canha vs. lefty after pete. if they replace him it's probably with a righty and then mcneil, escobar, vogey (ph for vientos) after that. make him work for it and do damage.
how long have we been in 1st place?  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:38 pm : link
Since like April 11th, or something like that?
do you PR gore for pete?  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:40 pm : link
an xbh ties the game maybe makes a DP a little harder.
RE: how long have we been in 1st place?  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15837192 Dennis said:
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Since like April 11th, or something like that?


If this Mets teamhas any character, now ir the time for it to show itself
1st and 2nd, no outs. 8th inning, and 1st place at stake.
RE: RE: how long have we been in 1st place?  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15837197 Dennis said:
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Since like April 11th, or something like that?



If this Mets teamhas any character, now ir the time for it to show itself
1st and 2nd, no outs. 8th inning, and 1st place at stake.


Bases loaded, 1 out, 8th inning, behind by 2 runs, 1st place hangs in the balance.
If not now, then when?
lets blow this game open  
spike : 9/28/2022 9:47 pm : link
McNeil!!
RE: lets blow this game open  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15837202 spike said:
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McNeil!!


Nothing.
Great  
spike : 9/28/2022 9:50 pm : link
hitting approach.

Fire chavez
He balked 3 times yesterday  
spike : 9/28/2022 9:50 pm : link
let him fuckin pitch.
RE: RE: lets blow this game open  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:51 pm : link
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McNeil!!



Nothing.


Yes! Escobar, 2 runs!
Wow did Escobar save Lindor and McNeil  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 9:51 pm : link
Biggest hit of the season
RE: Wow did Escobar save Lindor and McNeil  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15837216 Snablats said:
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Biggest hit of the season


Certainly one of the biggest.
RE: do you PR gore for pete?  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15837196 Eric on Li said:
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an xbh ties the game maybe makes a DP a little harder.


not pinch running gore almost cost them there but it's all tied up. great jump by pete.
Gore has to be the pinch runner  
spike : 9/28/2022 9:55 pm : link
any time they get a runner on base from now on in this game.
How in the world do you have to work so hard  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:55 pm : link
To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?
RE: RE: Wow did Escobar save Lindor and McNeil  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 9:56 pm : link
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Biggest hit of the season



Certainly one of the biggest.


if they win this is the escobar game the same way the philly win was the canha game.
RE: RE: RE: Wow did Escobar save Lindor and McNeil  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 9:58 pm : link
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Certainly one of the biggest.



if they win this is the escobar game the same way the philly win was the canha game.


_1. Totally agree Eric.
RE: How in the world do you have to work so hard  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15837224 Dennis said:
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?


Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.
RE: RE: How in the world do you have to work so hard  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15837237 spike said:
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.

Pennant race pressure that they haven't felt before

I would seriously consider pitching Diaz in the 10th
plz  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:07 pm : link
no Drew smith
pinch run  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:07 pm : link
with Gore now!
RE: RE: How in the world do you have to work so hard  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15837237 spike said:
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.


+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.
RE: RE: RE: How in the world do you have to work so hard  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:10 pm : link
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.



+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.


In WA, bottom 10th, still tied, 2-2. Wa at bat, no outs, runner on 2nd.
RE: RE: RE: RE: How in the world do you have to work so hard  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:11 pm : link
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.



+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.



In WA, bottom 10th, still tied, 2-2. Wa at bat, no outs, runner on 2nd.


Now runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs, WA still at bat. Good chance here for WA to walk off win.
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Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:18 pm : link
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.



+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.



In WA, bottom 10th, still tied, 2-2. Wa at bat, no outs, runner on 2nd.



Now runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs, WA still at bat. Good chance here for WA to walk off win.


Nats up, 1st and 3rd, 1 out, bottom 10th.
Drew Smith coming in for the 10th  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 10:20 pm : link
What are the odds he gives up a HR?

Another complete choke by Pete and Lindor.
fuckin pop ups!  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:20 pm : link
RIP Coolio.
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Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:21 pm : link
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



Taking their opponents lightly and not working their game plans.



+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.



In WA, bottom 10th, still tied, 2-2. Wa at bat, no outs, runner on 2nd.



Now runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs, WA still at bat. Good chance here for WA to walk off win.



Nats up, 1st and 3rd, 1 out, bottom 10th.


NATS WIN!
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Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:21 pm : link
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To get a win over a team that is 36 games under .500? Afetr getting swept by Chicago 2 weeks ago, how does this happen again?



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+1. Totally agree Spike. They've started swinging too early and freely in the count, not taking enough pitches, not making pitchers work hard enough.



In WA, bottom 10th, still tied, 2-2. Wa at bat, no outs, runner on 2nd.



Now runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs, WA still at bat. Good chance here for WA to walk off win.



Nats up, 1st and 3rd, 1 out, bottom 10th.


NATS WIN!
Braves lose!  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 10:21 pm : link
Pete with a rough night at the plate
RE: Drew Smith coming in for the 10th  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15837264 CooperDash said:
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What are the odds he gives up a HR?

Another complete choke by Pete and Lindor.

With you all the way on this one. Does anyone think Smith will get the job done here? And two big chokes by Pete and Lindor
CJ Abrams knocked in the winning run. Nats WIN!  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:22 pm : link
Com on Mets!!
Biggest inning of the season right here  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 10:22 pm : link
!
why smith  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:23 pm : link
instead of Lugo or May? Off day tomorrow
Lol isn’t that just the typical Mets luck  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 10:24 pm : link
The Marlins ghost runner just happens to be the fastest player on their team.
RE: why smith  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15837277 spike said:
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instead of Lugo or May? Off day tomorrow


lugo already pitched and may sucks as much as smith.
RE: RE: why smith  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15837281 Eric on Li said:
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instead of Lugo or May? Off day tomorrow



lugo already pitched and may sucks as much as smith.


+1. We really needed another RP at the trade deadline.
RE: RE: RE: why smith  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:29 pm : link
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instead of Lugo or May? Off day tomorrow



lugo already pitched and may sucks as much as smith.



+1. We really needed another RP at the trade deadline.


Ugh! Big sigh of relief.
Smith owed us that inning  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 10:30 pm : link
After all his home runs he's given up
Impressive inning by Smith  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 10:31 pm : link
NOW GO GET THIS WIN!!
Big inning by Drew Smith!  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 10:31 pm : link
But he still should be nowhere near the postseason roster, lol.
Credit where it is due - Great job by D Smith  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:31 pm : link
Let's go Lindor! Make up for your last 2 popups
Canha  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:32 pm : link
McNeil
and
Allstar Escobar up next
WOW  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 10:38 pm : link
Did not see that happening.

The legend of Eddie Escobar just keeps growing!!
the eduadro escobar game  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 10:39 pm : link
huge win. they win 1 against atlanta and then they are basically 1 win away from the division.
ESCOBAR AGAIN!!!!  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 10:39 pm : link
Wow! This month he’s having almost makes up for his prior 5 months.

Wow, wow, wow!
Sign me up for this!!  
BigBlue in Keys : 9/28/2022 10:39 pm : link
LGM!!!!
Gotta give them tons of credit for coming back  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 10:42 pm : link
They seemed DEAD in the water tonight.

(Cap tip)
Love da Escobar!  
spike : 9/28/2022 10:43 pm : link
Heart of the Mets
RE: Gotta give them tons of credit for coming back  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15837323 speedywheels said:
[quote] They seemed DEAD in the water tonight.

+1 totally agree Speedy. To me, they showed some balls. They did seem dead to me also.
Great win.
What a win  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 10:51 pm : link
No excuses now. 3 best starters going in Atlanta

1 win gives the Mets the tiebreaker, so if they then sweep the Nats they win the division

2 wins means only 1 win needed vs Nats to win the divison

A sweep wins the division

get swept and they need help to win the division

RE: RE: Gotta give them tons of credit for coming back  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 11:08 pm : link
In comment 15837335 Dennis said:
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In comment 15837323 speedywheels said:
[quote] They seemed DEAD in the water tonight.

+1 totally agree Speedy. To me, they showed some balls. They did seem dead to me also.
Great win.


Yes it was.

It’s right in front of them, they control their own destiny.
Degrom  
five5 : 9/28/2022 11:14 pm : link
Scherzer and Bassitt. In that order. Curious why they switched it up.
RE: Degrom  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15837348 five5 said:
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Scherzer and Bassitt. In that order. Curious why they switched it up.


Maybe they wanted to give Max an extra day? Dunno.

I would have gone Jake, Bassitt and Max
Im sure they talked with each pitcher  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 11:57 pm : link
to see how they are feeling, and they are also trying to set them up for a deGrom start in season finale if needed and wild card round if needed
RE: He balked 3 times yesterday  
Matt M. : 9/29/2022 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15837212 spike said:
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let him fuckin pitch.
I watched the videos several times. For the life of me, I didn't see anythuing to warrant 1 balk, let alone 3.
RE: RE: He balked 3 times yesterday  
Snablats : 9/29/2022 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15838296 Matt M. said:
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let him fuckin pitch.

I watched the videos several times. For the life of me, I didn't see anythuing to warrant 1 balk, let alone 3.

If he stopped, it was barely. And when he "stopped" his glove, as Darling said last night, was always roaming around and never still

Were they balks? They were borderline and usually never called
RE: RE: RE: He balked 3 times yesterday  
Matt M. : 9/30/2022 2:50 am : link
In comment 15838310 Snablats said:
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let him fuckin pitch.

I watched the videos several times. For the life of me, I didn't see anythuing to warrant 1 balk, let alone 3.


If he stopped, it was barely. And when he "stopped" his glove, as Darling said last night, was always roaming around and never still

Were they balks? They were borderline and usually never called
I didn't think any of that. He stopped his hands. Keep in mind, these are the first 3 balks of his career, so he has been fine in every other appearance.
deGrom going against Fried tonight. 7:20pm start.  
NYGgolfer : 9/30/2022 6:06 am : link
They are all important but putting up a W tonight and going up 2 games with 5 to play would be huge.
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