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NFT: Mets vs. Marlins - Game 1: Carrasco

Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 5:08 pm

Starting lineups for today - 9/27/22 - Marlins at Mets
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The remaining injury issue to still be concerned with is Marte's. Rumors were that he'd be back for the Braves series, but IMHO I don't see it in the cards. Be that as it may, the Mets are fully capable and SHOULD win these next two games at home vs. the Marlins before another off-day on Thursday. There's no Alcantara this series, so no reason not to take both of these critical games. Here are the starting pitcher matchups for them both:


Mets' Probable Starting Pitcher matchups for this series
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Here are the Starting pitchers in the Braves @ Nationals matchup going on at just about the same time as the Mets-Marlins game in Queens in about two hours:


Let's go Nats again today (obviously another story next week). Here are some other articles to check out before gametime:

Mets Morning News: Back to Work - Your Tuesday morning dose of New York Mets and MLB news, notes, and links. - By Vasilis Drimalitis | Sep 27, 2022 | 8:30am EDT

Home / Mets News/Morning Briefing: Mets’ Division Lead Shrinks to a Game - Morning Briefing: Mets’ Division Lead Shrinks to a Game - By Mathias Altman-Kurosaki - Updated: September 27, 2022

#LGFM!
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Maybe D. Murphy in the 2015 playoff run?  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 8:44 pm : link
I don't know his was a short little span but, still point is made -- Alonso is the deal.
I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
Atari2600 : 9/27/2022 8:48 pm : link
and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.
And Williams gives two runs right back  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:49 pm : link
They really don’t want to win the division, it seems.


😡😡😡
And Williams gives two runs right back  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 8:50 pm : link
They really don’t want to win the division, it seems.


😡😡😡
Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:51 pm : link
Not looking good so far...
RE: I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15835983 Atari2600 said:
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and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.


"T Williams sucks"

Is that a joke?

He's been amazing this season! Best middle relief season since Darren Oliver in 06
RE: Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15835991 Optimus-NY said:
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Not looking good so far...


Can't count on help.. need to take care of business

This just means we need to take minimum of 2 from Braves and 3 of the 4 from Marlins/Nats

Win tomorrow, then win the last 2 series, and division is locked up.
RE: RE: Top of the 6th - Braves 6, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15836000 moze1021 said:
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In comment 15835991 Optimus-NY said:


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Not looking good so far...



Can't count on help.. need to take care of business

This just means we need to take minimum of 2 from Braves and 3 of the 4 from Marlins/Nats

Win tomorrow, then win the last 2 series, and division is locked up.


I hear you, but this one ain't over yet, although it may feel like it.
its going to be tough for them to win the division  
spike : 9/27/2022 9:00 pm : link
if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.
Would you give Carrasco another start based on his past few  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 9:03 pm : link
performances. especially with the division on the line?
RE: Would you give Carrasco another start based on his past few  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15836004 Optimus-NY said:
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performances. especially with the division on the line?


I wouldn’t have given him this one.

That being said…Buck will absolutely run this nut job out there again for another start. And it will be another stinker. Book it.
RE: its going to be tough for them to win the division  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15836002 spike said:
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if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.


2/3!! It's been my mantra on here for the last 2 months.and that's all it comes down to!!

RE: RE: its going to be tough for them to win the division  
CooperDash : 9/27/2022 9:13 pm : link
In comment 15836007 moze1021 said:
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if they can't take care of business.

Braves arent losing to the Nats.



2/3!! It's been my mantra on here for the last 2 months.and that's all it comes down to!!


Yeah, we know. Not that simple.

If this franchise want to change the narrative, then win the fucking division. That’s it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.

They are not winning this division, that’s my opinion.
You think the Mets will win 2 of 3 in Atlanta?  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 9:19 pm : link
Right now we dont know if they can beat the Nats 2 of 3
This is why Buck can't win a WS  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 9:40 pm : link
Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.
RE: RE: I just get the feeling Buck puls a Joe Judge  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/27/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15835995 moze1021 said:
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and is ready to waive the white flag too early.

T Willaims sucks. Why not bring MeGill in there or something?

This is play off time.



"T Williams sucks"

Is that a joke?

He's been amazing this season! Best middle relief season since Darren Oliver in 06


Did you really think Williams wasn't going to give up at least 2 runs as soon as he came in the game? If not you are not paying attention.
Atlanta 8, Washington 2 in the Top of the 9th now.  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 9:47 pm : link
2 outs
Keep Megill  
spike : 9/27/2022 9:48 pm : link
Off the roster
screw all that  
Gmanfandan : 9/27/2022 9:55 pm : link
Let's put up a crooked number
Final Score - Braves 8, Nats 2  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 10:10 pm : link
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Balkfest!  
Optimus-NY : 9/27/2022 10:11 pm : link
!
RE: This is why Buck can't win a WS  
Rory : 9/27/2022 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15836046 larryflower37 said:
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Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.


I mean why even watch the games.
Well Eddie looked good  
Gmanfandan : 9/27/2022 10:21 pm : link
WC or Div will need him sharp
Damn  
moze1021 : 9/27/2022 10:23 pm : link
A 97 win team that controls it's own destiny to win division title against an equally great team...

Reading this thread you'd think it was the Art Howe years..

If they don't win 2 against braves and 3 against Marlins/nats, and the braves win the division, then they deserve it

Well that was disappointing  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 10:30 pm : link
Best of 7 now.
#LFGM
11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 10:38 pm : link
That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it
RE: RE: This is why Buck can't win a WS  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:46 pm : link
In comment 15836087 Rory said:
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In comment 15836046 larryflower37 said:


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Great Manager until the games really matter.
His decision making has been garbage the last 2 weeks.



I mean why even watch the games.


Have you watched the last two weeks? I’m assuming no; because if you had, you’d know Buck HAS been managing like shit.

🤷🏻‍♂️
When they lose the division, it won’t be hard to see why  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:49 pm : link
Swept by the Cubs and losing tonight to the awful marlins will be the reason why.

Utterly embarrassing.
So now we and the Braves are tied.  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 10:50 pm : link
When will I learn that the Mets will almost always break my heart?
if they score first they win  
spike : 9/27/2022 10:53 pm : link
If the other team scores first, they win. Conversely, when our starters have poor outings, we tend to lose.
Not making a move for a DH and bullpen  
larryflower37 : 9/27/2022 10:57 pm : link
At the deadline is going to haunt this team.
They swung and missed on all their moves, also the loss of Marte is really hurting this team.
Bad sign limping into the playoffs.
RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15836108 Snablats said:
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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it


As usual, you’re talking out of your ass.

Losing these games has nothing to do with lack of playoff experience. They are a team with several weaknesses on offense and it has reared its ugly head at many different points this season.

As you yourself pointed out - walker and cookie have had several clunkers between them. It’s not because of no playoff experience; it’s because they just aren’t very good.

Hard to blame the offense when the pitching puts them in such a huge hole early in games.
RE: Not making a move for a DH and bullpen  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15836129 larryflower37 said:
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At the deadline is going to haunt this team.
They swung and missed on all their moves, also the loss of Marte is really hurting this team.
Bad sign limping into the playoffs.


Naquin and vogelbach have been Ok. Ruf and givens, not so much
RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
speedywheels : 9/27/2022 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15836108 Snablats said:
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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done


This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it


And why doesn’t 2020 count? Because it fucks with your narrative?

Playoff baseball is playoff baseball; it doesn’t matter if there were 60 or 160 games to get there, the pressure of win-or-go-home is the same.

PS - Pete, Escobar, McNeil and vogelbach have “no playoff experience” and look at their September numbers. He LLP, even nido has very good September numbers.

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bullshit narrative.

🤷🏻‍♂️
RE: RE: 11-9 in September vs the dregs of the league  
Snablats : 9/27/2022 11:22 pm : link
In comment 15836131 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15836108 Snablats said:


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That's called choking. We said a few weeks ago it seems the front office and manager are playing it like they were content to be the wild card

I said it before - only Lindor has real playoff experience among the hitters (I dont count the 2020 joke playoffs) and it is showing

Throw in Carrasco and Walker with several clunkers between them

And a bullpen with one reliable pitcher just isnt getting it done

This now seems like it will be a learning year of getting pennant race and playoff experience

Let's see how they react tomorrow and in Atlanta. I hope they turn it around but its hard to see it



As usual, you’re talking out of your ass.

Losing these games has nothing to do with lack of playoff experience. They are a team with several weaknesses on offense and it has reared its ugly head at many different points this season.

As you yourself pointed out - walker and cookie have had several clunkers between them. It’s not because of no playoff experience; it’s because they just aren’t very good.

Hard to blame the offense when the pitching puts them in such a huge hole early in games.

They are better than most 4/5 starters in baseball. And you were saying in August that Carrasco could be the 3rd playoff starter!

Lack of experience is definitely a factor in the hitting and in losing games to bad teams this month. Why do you think teams in all sports trade for veterans with playoff experience at trading deadlines?
I don't really care if the Mets don't get a first round bye.  
Dennis : 9/27/2022 11:56 pm : link
Throughout baseball history, many teams have won championships without a first round bye. What really pisses me off is the f--king smarmy, self righteous Braves fans, once again crowing about how wonderful America's Team is, how lucky the Mets are, and how they put us in our place.
I hope they all get terminal ingrown toenails and have to have their f--king toenails pulled off. The motherf--kers.
This season the Wild Card round is different  
Snablats : 9/28/2022 12:09 am : link
And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage
RE: This season the Wild Card round is different  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 12:11 am : link
In comment 15836160 Snablats said:
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And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage


Right, you're right. I didn't realize that😁
RE: RE: This season the Wild Card round is different  
Gmanfandan : 9/28/2022 7:14 am : link
In comment 15836162 Dennis said:
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And winning the division gets you a bye, it's a huge advantage. Winning the division also gets you out of the Dodgers bracket, another huge advantage



Right, you're right. I didn't realize that😁
It also lets you reset your rotation - since the WC starts a day after the season ends.
It is a big deal
Walker going tonight versus Luzardo who has had a couple  
NYGgolfer : 9/28/2022 11:37 am : link
of decent outings in a row. Braves sending Odorizzi against the Marlins around same time.

Left with playing out a best of the final 7 games now.
The extra days off seemingly didn't help Carrasco  
Vanzetti : 9/28/2022 12:09 pm : link
You always worry about that with a guy who needs pinpoint control because of diminishing stuff.

Probably would have been better to skip Carrasco since he is likely going to pen in postseason any way.

But hindsight is always 20/20. That said Trevor Williams has been hit last couple of outings. Buck needed to go earlier to his top guys in the pen. They are all rested with the off days.

one of the biggest areas of encouragement for the org moving forward  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 2:43 pm : link
Michael Mayer @michaelmayer22
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The Mets 2022 minor league season is over.

-3 of 5 stateside affiliates made playoffs with 1 title
- multiple top prospects made MLB debut
- Francisco Álvarez ascended to be one of the top prospects in baseball
- Strong draft helped catapult farm to top 10 system
great to see that post-injury alvarez came back strong in sept  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 3:16 pm : link
Michael Mayer @michaelmayer22
1m
Here’s how Mets top prospect Francisco Álvarez did in 2022 between Double-A and Triple-A in 112 games:

.260/.374/.511, 22 2B, 27 HR, 78 RBI

The 20-year-old finished the season strong with a 1.079 OPS in September.
would be odd to not bring the extra catchers up too  
Eric on Li : 9/28/2022 3:21 pm : link
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Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
With Triple-A Syracuse ending its season today, the Mets are bringing some players back to New York. Dominic Smith, Deven Marrero, Álex Claudio and Stephen Nogosek all have lockers in New York.

No roster moves right now, but it behooves the team to keep some extra guys fresh.
No Alvarez?  
Vanzetti : 9/28/2022 3:41 pm : link
How do you not have a third catcher in the mix?

Sandy still trying to valorize the McCann trade. Makes me wonder if Kyle was one of those who pushed to sign McCann
LOL  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 8:21 pm : link
Losing again tonight, 2-0 top 5

Incredible how they suck vs bad teams. At home no less!
I think the only thing that the Marlins are good at  
CooperDash : 9/28/2022 8:22 pm : link
is playing the role of late season spoiler for the Mets. Jesus fucking Christ.
Nats up, 2-1, over Braves  
Dennis : 9/28/2022 8:26 pm : link
Bottom 4th.
LOL  
speedywheels : 9/28/2022 8:30 pm : link
Losing again tonight, 2-0 top 5

Incredible how they suck vs bad teams. At home no less!
Zzzzzz  
spike : 9/28/2022 8:32 pm : link
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