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I thought the Playcalling Monday Night was Very Good

Essex : 9/28/2022 9:37 am

For a game where our offense was pretty bad (albeit in many respects because we were going against a great defense), I thought Kafka called a very good game. That Jones fake like jump pass to Bellinger was a thing of beauty. I felt a lot of the playcalls were great. There was a third down play to Shep where he isolated a Dallas defender and Jones kind of threw it above Shep's head (who dropped it), but if that is thrown leading him it was a first down. That type of clearout play was something we never saw. I also think they are getting more aggressive.

Bottom line, it has been three games so far and I love the flow to Kafka's playcalling. Think as the season goes on, our offense can get better.

I was saying the same thing to friends Monday night

bradshaw44 : 9/28/2022 9:51 am : link

I love the innovative play calling.

Wink OTOH bugged me for the first time this week when he was giving a cushion to WR's on 3rd and short. That play calling annoyed me.

Meh

section125 : 9/28/2022 10:09 am : link

He takes too long to get going. Perhaps his scripted plays aren't that well thought out...He seems to get better as the game goes on and after the half.
But yes, it is better than 3 yards and a cloud of rubber chips. And get the ball to Barkley..

I agree.

Matt M. : 9/28/2022 10:20 am : link

I especially like the few plays they've run with multiple backs.

The playcalling was some of the best I've seen

Metnut : 9/28/2022 10:25 am : link

The Giants managed to move the ball well most of the game. They just have no pass protection and no big play ability, so it's difficult for them to go all the way and score. I'm curious to see how they adjust as the year goes on, and hope we can get Daboll/Kafka some reasonable talent on office before too long.

Really hard to evaluate the play calling

Rudy5757 : 9/28/2022 10:28 am : link

when the OL plays so bad. Could he have call more plays to help the pass protection more? More screens to slow them down? More Barkley?

I do like the design of the O compared to the last 2 years but we're still struggling to score points.

I loved the creativity in the play calling

Stu11 : 9/28/2022 10:39 am : link

One thing though I thought we had too many drop backs/passes. I would have like to see us run it some more. Seems like we never ran it twice in a row. Some of those 1st downs where Barkley got 3 or 4 I'd have liked to have seen us come back with another run and get to at least like 3rd and 3. I am really encouraged that once we get the talent we need at the skill positions that we have the right coordinator.

Imagine this offense if we had a viable number 1 WR

Rjanyg : 9/28/2022 10:42 am : link

I see some potential with this offensive style and about 7-8 of the starters.

This offense needs a WR1, Center and a viable LG.

Some could argue we need a new QB and hope we have a Slot Receiver in Robinson.

Play calling was definitely much better…but

scotepsu22 : 9/28/2022 10:55 am : link

We should have run the ball with Saquon a lot more. 14 carries isn’t enough for our best player, especially when Dallas was consistently getting so much pressure on passing plays.

I was/am liking the play calling too and thought this game

Dinger : 9/28/2022 11:28 am : link

was decent even in the first half. A comment that Peyton or Eli made threw me though; They stated something to the effect that all the Giants run are curl routes. Now I know this was a thing with Garrett but I was hoping for different with the new regime. And another point they made was when playing against someone like Diggs you need to have a two move route.

I think it's been solid to good all year

JOrthman : 9/28/2022 11:50 am : link

I think the coaches have been doing a good job putting the players in position to succeed.

mixed

Vanzetti : 9/28/2022 11:54 am : link

two passes on 2nd and six when Cowboys were having trouble stopping the run.

I know the calls to "run the ball" on BBI are largely a hangover from a different era and I agree with Kafka's approach that you have to pass to open the run, especially since Cowboys had 8 in the box.

But Barkley has to run it more than 14 times. He also has to take shots with long passes down the field. Don't know if that's Jones or what. But one long completion will open things up. You have to put that possibility in the safety's mind.

So I would give playcalling a B+

With the Way the Cowboys Were Rushing the Passer

LTIsTheGreatest : 9/28/2022 12:50 pm : link

felt a few more quick screens to Barkley or Breida would have helped loosen up the Dallas defense more

RE: With the Way the Cowboys Were Rushing the Passer

Essex : 9/28/2022 12:54 pm : link

In comment 15836571 LTIsTheGreatest said:

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felt a few more quick screens to Barkley or Breida would have helped loosen up the Dallas defense more

They were getting there with four, it is hard to scheme against that

For the most part yes

Now Mike in MD : 9/28/2022 12:59 pm : link

But there was a series of plays durign the drive in the fourth quarter that resulted in the FG when Breida was in for like 5 straight playss.

I realize Saquan needs a break, but we absolutely needed a TD there. You don't take by far your most dynamic playmaker out when your at you opponents 35 in that situation.

BTW, Breida also got completely trucked on 2 blitz pickups.

I can only imagine how difficult it was for him

Beer Man : 9/28/2022 1:57 pm : link

with an OL stinking it up and a receiving core that is so below average.

RE: Meh

Ivan15 : 9/28/2022 2:08 pm : link

In comment 15836319 section125 said:

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I thought the whole purpose in scripting 20–25 plays was to then figure out what plays and variations of plays (looks) will be effective. If a team runs 6 plays per possession at the start, that will take 4 possessions before they get off script. Do you want fewer scripted plays? I’m not concerned about slow starts if the finishes are strong.
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