Simple question about Daniel Jones this past Monday

properly take into account the poor OL and lack of targets Daniel Jones had to endure during his stay in New York...

When he had pieces around him. Go to his last 6 years when he had more than what Jones has today and it was ugly. He even lead the league in interceptions one year.

So your confidence in Eli is likely because you have selective memory.

If you want to evaluate Jones then fine but if you do that then you need to understand the game from a coaches perspective and not from the recliner of a fan.

The shitty thing about this season is once again we are having too many issues that impact the offense which always gets put on the QB

New OC and scheme that ALL of the players have to learn
Bad OL play again and we had high hopes
Horrible WRs
Less than average TE

The only two positives on offense are barkley until he gets hurt again and Jones has significantly reduced the turnovers

You are asking this guy not to make lemonade out of lemons, but to make lemonade out of rotten tomatoes

One of the most bizarre comments you see is if you have a "elite" QB then regardless of the talent around him it will be a outstanding offense. I see no evidence that this is true.

I can't recall a upper tier QB ever not having a good amount of talent around them whether it is in the OL or WR/TE group.

and we would be discussing another surprising (and narrow victory). I don't think Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert, or Tom Brady could score touchdowns with this lineup.

and we would be discussing another surprising (and narrow victory). I don't think Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert, or Tom Brady could score touchdowns with this lineup.

In comment 15837417 Jimmy Googs said:

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properly take into account the poor OL and lack of targets Daniel Jones had to endure during his stay in New York...

Did I somehow communicate that I think Jones is a hall of fame talent that is unable to show it because of the lack of surrounding talent?

In comment 15837419 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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One of the most bizarre comments you see is if you have a "elite" QB then regardless of the talent around him it will be a outstanding offense. I see no evidence that this is true. I can't recall a upper tier QB ever not having a good amount of talent around them whether it is in the OL or WR/TE group.

Hi LOS. I am not sure if anyone is saying that, but if they are, then I disagree; mostly for the reasons you listed in your post.

In comment 15837427 ChrisRick said:

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In comment 15837417 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: properly take into account the poor OL and lack of targets Daniel Jones had to endure during his stay in New York... Did I somehow communicate that I think Jones is a hall of fame talent that is unable to show it because of the lack of surrounding talent?

no, but this thread has many posters besides you...

In comment 15837441 Jimmy Googs said:

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In comment 15837427 ChrisRick said: Quote: In comment 15837417 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: properly take into account the poor OL and lack of targets Daniel Jones had to endure during his stay in New York... Did I somehow communicate that I think Jones is a hall of fame talent that is unable to show it because of the lack of surrounding talent? no, but this thread has many posters besides you...

That is why I asked if you were referencing me.

pertains to them...

and they can also just ask directly

:-)

In comment 15836808 TheBlueprintNC said:

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against that formidable D with his weakass Oline and shit JV WR core and the D blew it.. but Dan suxx

Dallas ties the game and Jones responds with a three and out! Oh wait it included two dropped passes and an illegal procedure. Damn it He has to overcome that!!!!!

To answer the OP, I didn't. But I would have loved to have been wrong.

Jones was solid on MNF. The problem is that he's working with the worst WR room in the league IMO. KT89 is a space cadet, Robinson is injured, Shep's now injured, KG is a waste...his best WR option is Richie Fucking James.