Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
You wouldn't have signed up for having a guaranteed playoff spot and controlling our own destiny with 6 games to play?? Really?
I'm not talking about the way it's happened, I'm talking about where we are today, where we will be tomorrow.
This season has brought so much joy..and we still have baseball left. As a long suffering Mets fan, I'm just enjoying it.
It’s a bit disingenuous to say “I’m not talking about the way it happened”. Context is everything. Super glad that you’ve been soooo happy over the last month of bad baseball against bad teams.
If someone told me before the season that they would win 100 games, then yeah, I’d be super stoked. Not so simple though.
If someone told me that the team would win 100+ games, lead the division for most of the season, but then choke away the division in the last month against the worst teams in the league only to settle for the WC - yeah, not super exciting to me.
Just yet. Depending on how we look over the weekend. Winning the division isn't the top priority for me. Prepping for the postseason is. So I'll let it play out first. Disappointing, yes. But it's not the end of the world. Yet.
how much more difficult the postseason will be if the Mets only get the WC versus the Division.
Winning the division should be the priority.
This is correct, and some of us have been saying it for 2 months. As you say I don't think some people understand the new playoff format and how it will impact the loser of the division
Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
How do you like Escobar now!?
I like him pretty darn good right now. Who doesn’t?
Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
How do you like Escobar now!?
I like him pretty darn good right now. Who doesn’t?
I am approaching my 48th birthday so I have lived through the late 80s. The Mets with Cohen are a recent entry to the elite teams in baseball. This is all "new" to many of us fans. Heading into the playoffs, I was concerned the Mets needed to go through the "playoff heartbreak" that many teams seem to go through before seeing success.
In my opinion, the Mets and Braves battle is giving this team some "playoff" type experience. I also feel the NL East has the best top 2 teams in baseball which is proven by the defending World Series Champions and the now contending Mets. Phillies are also a quality team.
This NL East battle has been amazing and while the cushion of the Wildcard is there, we need to win this division.
The Mets haters are starting to get nervous because we are now legitimate.
how much more difficult the postseason will be if the Mets only get the WC versus the Division.
Winning the division should be the priority.
This is correct, and some of us have been saying it for 2 months. As you say I don't think some people understand the new playoff format and how it will impact the loser of the division
+1,000,000
The road is much more difficult with an additional WC round. I want to avoid it at all costs. That said, all that experience didn't seem to help ATL much last night, and thank you Eduardo Escobar! I've been down on him most of this season, but he's picked it up when he's been needed the most.
4 straight games with 2 walks each. Yesterday, had 2 walks and 2 hits. His early AAA struggles are behind him. His AAA BA is now up to .234. Because of 34 walks in 45 AAA games, his AAA OBP is actually now higher than his AA OBP. (.382 to .368). 70 walks and 27 HRs in 112 minor league games. Doesn't turn 21 until the season is over
4 straight games with 2 walks each. Yesterday, had 2 walks and 2 hits. His early AAA struggles are behind him. His AAA BA is now up to .234. Because of 34 walks in 45 AAA games, his AAA OBP is actually now higher than his AA OBP. (.382 to .368). 70 walks and 27 HRs in 112 minor league games. Doesn't turn 21 until the season is over
Thanks for the update KD, the walks are a great sign. I love to see how patient he's become.
4 straight games with 2 walks each. Yesterday, had 2 walks and 2 hits. His early AAA struggles are behind him. His AAA BA is now up to .234. Because of 34 walks in 45 AAA games, his AAA OBP is actually now higher than his AA OBP. (.382 to .368). 70 walks and 27 HRs in 112 minor league games. Doesn't turn 21 until the season is over
Thanks for the update KD, the walks are a great sign. I love to see how patient he's become.
the walks are indeed a great sign. I still think he needs a full year at Triple A next year so that he can work on his defensive inefficiencies, more than anything else. His bat seems major league ready or very close to major league ready right now.
the walks are indeed a great sign. I still think he needs a full year at Triple A next year so that he can work on his defensive inefficiencies, more than anything else. His bat seems major league ready or very close to major league ready right now.
I agree that he should start in Syracuse, but I'm not sure he'll need a full year. That depends on how his first half goes. If he's lighting it up, and his defense shows improvement, I could see him being a mid- to late-season call-up.
was viewed a major price to pay even tat the time. He's obviously come a long way but he's always hit (since day 1) (career .927 OPS). He's also considered a potential above average C. What can you do? But the Ruf trade looks... well rough right about now. They need to do a better job of identifying their own. Wasn't meant as a dump on the Mets post etc.
Pressing and Falling apart.
Braves have been through this and it shows.
Don't let Speedy see this post, he thinks playoff and pennant race experience don't matter
LOL! You’re the moron who discounted 2020 playoff experience as somehow not meaningful, because it fucked up your narrative.
And as I said the other day in response to your stupid post, the September offensive numbers for Pete, Escobar, McNeil, Lindor, Nimmo and Nido destroy your argument. Since you seem incapable of doing research to back up your bullshit, here are some numbers for you:
It's especially apparent against lefties when we either need to start Guillorme or Ruf in the field.
Marte has been so good all year and really underappreciated. Huge piece of this team.
Agree. It was rumored he would return for the Braves series, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
The offensive has held up well, considering his absence...
In ym view, I don't expect hm back until either the NLDS (best case scenario) or the NLCS (realistic scenario). There's also a chance he's not back at all this season if it was more serious than they made it out to be. Hopefully the Mets wn the division and avoid the WC round completely.
2% chance of rain in Atlanta for tomorrow, 6% and 5% for Sat and Sunday
Thanks Dan - crossing my fingers that they can play all 3 without resorting to a DH on Sunday. Goes without saying that this is the biggest series of the year - with the top 3 guys going anything less than 2 out of 3 would be a disappointment. Let's hope for a big time rebound from Jake
Pressing and Falling apart.
Braves have been through this and it shows.
Don't let Speedy see this post, he thinks playoff and pennant race experience don't matter
LOL! You’re the moron who discounted 2020 playoff experience as somehow not meaningful, because it fucked up your narrative.
And as I said the other day in response to your stupid post, the September offensive numbers for Pete, Escobar, McNeil, Lindor, Nimmo and Nido destroy your argument. Since you seem incapable of doing research to back up your bullshit, here are some numbers for you:
MeNeil: 330 BA, 411 OBP, 372 SLG (not great), 783 OPS (still very good despite low SLG), 14 runs
Nimmo: 264 BA, 396 OBP, 414 SLG, 810 OPS, 20 runs
Nido: 333 BA, 340 OBP, 563 SLG, 903 OPS, 2 HR (he had ZEO before September), 8 RBI (had had a whopping 19 before September)
Lindor: 308 BA, 342 OBP, 510 SLG, 852 OPS, 4 HR, 18 RBI (the most he's had in any month except for May), 17 runs
For offensive players who are "choking" because they have "no playoff experience", those numbers are pretty good, I'd say.
But we all know you simply ignore any evidence that shows the stupidity of your takes. So you keep doing you, I guess.
2020 doesnt count because it wasnt a real season, there were no fans in the stands, players opted out. It wasnt anything like a real pennant race or playoffs. Sorry if you are too damn stupid to understand that
Total numbers dont take into account situations in a game and who they played against, which were the worst teams in the league. They SHOULD have decent numbers against bad teams. But the facts are they went 11-9 vs bad teams, and poor clutch hitting was a big reason why
Even Gary Cohen brought it up yesterday, how the pressure could be affecting the hitters (note Lindor and Pete and McNeil all had terrible at bats in crucial spots last night)
Note that all teams in every sport look to trade for veteran guys at the deadline because they have been through it
You really seem to have a superficial knowledge of sports. And you still think Alonso is an above average defensive player even though your beloved analytics say otherwise
2020 doesnt count because it wasnt a real season, there were no fans in the stands, players opted out. It wasnt anything like a real pennant race or playoffs. Sorry if you are too damn stupid to understand that
Total numbers dont take into account situations in a game and who they played against, which were the worst teams in the league. They SHOULD have decent numbers against bad teams. But the facts are they went 11-9 vs bad teams, and poor clutch hitting was a big reason why
Even Gary Cohen brought it up yesterday, how the pressure could be affecting the hitters (note Lindor and Pete and McNeil all had terrible at bats in crucial spots last night)
Note that all teams in every sport look to trade for veteran guys at the deadline because they have been through it
You really seem to have a superficial knowledge of sports. And you still think Alonso is an above average defensive player even though your beloved analytics say otherwise
Sigh....
Of course 2020 doesn't count - because it blows up your narrative. Did they not still play games with intense pressure? Did they not play win or go home games? Did they not crown a champion?
Have players had individual AB's in Sept where they didn't come through, even against bad teams? Well of fucking course! This is a sport where even the best player fail 7 of every 10 times, numbnuts
Darin Ruf has postseason experience - from last year no less, there were fans in the stands, and everything! - how's that worked out for him this year? He was the "veteran" they acquired at the deadline because he's "been through it", and he has failed spectacularly.
You can ignore them all you want, but their September numbers are what they are. The pitching has been the problem in September - especially Carrasco and Walker, go look at their numbers for September (August, too for that matter)
You're such a fucking moron, I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.
Re Alonso - stop putting words in my mouth, asshole. I never said he was an above defensive player. You keep saying he's a "bad" defensive player, which simply isn't true. The metrics say otherwise, but you ignore those and go with your "eye test", like somehow that means anything.
You also wanted Dom to play 1B over Pete, despite the fact that any difference Dom had in defensive ability was SIGNIFICANTLY outweighed by the difference in offensive numbers (I must have told you that at least 100 times).
How'd that work out for you?
Speaking of superficial sports knowledge, I don't even though why I bother with you; you're the asshole who thinks Judge just tied the major league HR mark last night (pssst, it's the AMERICAN LEAGUE title, moron) and that no one outside NYC knows that Judge is also going for the triple crown.
I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
that when the pitch hits the dirt the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
was viewed a major price to pay even tat the time. He's obviously come a long way but he's always hit (since day 1) (career .927 OPS). He's also considered a potential above average C. What can you do? But the Ruf trade looks... well rough right about now. They need to do a better job of identifying their own. Wasn't meant as a dump on the Mets post etc.
Both Baty and ex-@mets prospect Endy Rodriguez also made @keithlaw’s list of prospects who had standout seasons worth mentioning #Mets
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Mets over their heads right now
I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
If you honestly can't get past this, there is something for it.
For those that don't know, a BBIer created a mute button for BBI - so certain people won't ruin threads for you.
It's the only thing that makes these threads tolerable this year...
Problem is, it only works on computers, not phone or ipad.
Direct Link:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bbi-mute/onplioidmgmiofkkbcokbfkapiifmknf
For those that don't know, a BBIer created a mute button for BBI - so certain people won't ruin threads for you.
It's the only thing that makes these threads tolerable this year...
Problem is, it only works on computers, not phone or ipad.
Direct Link:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bbi-mute/onplioidmgmiofkkbcokbfkapiifmknf Original BBI Mute Button Thread - ( New Window )
Hey, its Alderson's relative
This is what the thread would look like after muting
that when the pitch hits the dirt the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
OK, wow - lots of stupid to unpack here.
First - when a ball gets past the catcher, it's not ALWAYS called a wild pitch; there is a little category that official scorers used called PASSED BALL. You should read up on it, you might learn something. But knowing you, probably not.
Second - you have consistently called Pete a bad fielding 1B, don't make up shit now. Yes, Dom is marginally better fielder than Pete - I have said that many times. But - as I've also said many times - any difference in their fielding abilities was more than outweighed by their offensive differences. Think about it - if Dom was THAT much better than Pete in fielding, Buck would have played Dom there ALL THE TIME. The Mets would have solved their DH problems by using Pete there all season. Only problem is, Dom couldn't hit the broad side of the barn; he didn't hit even ONE home run in over 365 days, covering two seasons!
So Buck - like everyone else with a brain - knew that Dom was marginally better enough on D to give Pete a breather a few times in late innings, but not nearly offensively good enough to play every day at 1B. Tell us, genius - why isn't Dom the every day 1B, if he's "so much better" at fielding than Pete?
Third - I can't help but to simply LOL at the fact that you you use Maris's son as an example of someone to support your argument that Bonds shouldn't be the record holder! That's some grade A stupidity right here. PS - Maris's family gave McGwire lots of love when HR broke Maris's record - they even attended the very game he broke it and hugged him after he rounded the bases. How to you explain that? He has the same steroids cloud hanging over him that Bonds does, so their treatment of the HR record should be the same for Bonds and Mac, right?
Just because you and a few others morons don't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not official.
Since you lack basic knowledge about baseball, let me clue you in on a little something - Maris's record was also decried/not acknowledged by many, because he hit 61 after game 154. In fact, there was much discussion about the placement of mythical asterisk next to Maris's record because of that. See link below for a little history lesson. The irony of the people denying Bonds's record and falling back to Maris's record is too fucking funny. Well, it's sad more than funny, I suppose, to see so much stupidity out there.
So again - you (and any other moron who tries to pretend Bonds's record doesn't exist) are simply wrong to say Judge has tied the ML mark. Period. Full stop.
But you're wrong a lot, so I'm sure one more time won't phase you much.
I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
If you honestly can't get past this, there is something for it.
I know there is a mute function and I use it for him, but the problem is it doesn't work on mobile devices, which is how I view BBI most of the time.
It also doesn't work when someone replies to him in a thread, because I can see then see his comments in the reply.
So that's what I meant when I said I need to be better about not getting sucked in.
that when the pitch hits the dirt the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
OK, wow - lots of stupid to unpack here.
First - when a ball gets past the catcher, it's not ALWAYS called a wild pitch; there is a little category that official scorers used called PASSED BALL. You should read up on it, you might learn something. But knowing you, probably not.
Second - you have consistently called Pete a bad fielding 1B, don't make up shit now. Yes, Dom is marginally better fielder than Pete - I have said that many times. But - as I've also said many times - any difference in their fielding abilities was more than outweighed by their offensive differences. Think about it - if Dom was THAT much better than Pete in fielding, Buck would have played Dom there ALL THE TIME. The Mets would have solved their DH problems by using Pete there all season. Only problem is, Dom couldn't hit the broad side of the barn; he didn't hit even ONE home run in over 365 days, covering two seasons!
So Buck - like everyone else with a brain - knew that Dom was marginally better enough on D to give Pete a breather a few times in late innings, but not nearly offensively good enough to play every day at 1B. Tell us, genius - why isn't Dom the every day 1B, if he's "so much better" at fielding than Pete?
Third - I can't help but to simply LOL at the fact that you you use Maris's son as an example of someone to support your argument that Bonds shouldn't be the record holder! That's some grade A stupidity right here. PS - Maris's family gave McGwire lots of love when HR broke Maris's record - they even attended the very game he broke it and hugged him after he rounded the bases. How to you explain that? He has the same steroids cloud hanging over him that Bonds does, so their treatment of the HR record should be the same for Bonds and Mac, right?
Just because you and a few others morons don't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not official.
Since you lack basic knowledge about baseball, let me clue you in on a little something - Maris's record was also decried/not acknowledged by many, because he hit 61 after game 154. In fact, there was much discussion about the placement of mythical asterisk next to Maris's record because of that. See link below for a little history lesson. The irony of the people denying Bonds's record and falling back to Maris's record is too fucking funny. Well, it's sad more than funny, I suppose, to see so much stupidity out there.
So again - you (and any other moron who tries to pretend Bonds's record doesn't exist) are simply wrong to say Judge has tied the ML mark. Period. Full stop.
But you're wrong a lot, so I'm sure one more time won't phase you much.
A little history lesson about Roger Maris, since you don't know your baseball history - ( New Window )
Your reading comprehension is so bad I wonder how you got thru middle school
1. I will cut and paste this from my earlier post, then add capitalization so you can see how dumb you are: "when the pitch HITS THE DIRT the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
Did you see the HITS THE DIRT part this time?
2. No one, including me, has ever said to play Dom regularly over Pete. The fact that you cannot admit Pete isnt a good fielding 1B is astounding. Dom is miles better defensively, not "marginally" as you keep claiming. If Dom was only marginally better, he would not have lasted on the roster as long as he did. There is nothing else to say because now you are making up crap and trying to change the argument
3. When McGwire broke the record, steriods werent even talked about, no one was saying cheater, so your point, as usual, is useless. What does wanting an asterisk in 1961 have to do with now? Maris didnt cheat, the asterisk was about playing more games than Ruth to hit 61. Seriously, you have no idea how to even argue, you bring in stuff that has nothing to do with anything because you have no argument to make
PED's but yes, it's been alleged the Yankees had a whistling system for stealing signs in 1961 created by Bob Turley. 100% not interested in a cheating/Maris debate, just pointing out that this has been alleged.
"Nonetheless, statistical projections can be revealing. Mine are based on a combination of my SCHOENE player projections for box score stats as well as three-year, luck-adjusted Regularized Adjusted Four Factors (RAPM) from NBAshotcharts.com. I estimate games played based on those missed over the past three years then make subjective predictions for playing time.
The result is an expected wins total based on average health luck. Because some teams will have better or worse fortune, but we don't know which ones, the average totals will inevitably be closer to .500 than the actual final standings.
Helps tho that some of you are arguing like Desperate Housewives lol
But now we have the Braves right? If we do this right we have it! Go Mets! I’m wearing my hat all the time!
PED's but yes, it's been alleged the Yankees had a whistling system for stealing signs in 1961 created by Bob Turley. 100% not interested in a cheating/Maris debate, just pointing out that this has been alleged.
Turley was doing it from the field, in the dugout or as the first base coach. Stealing signs while on the field without any Electronics or binoculars was legal then and legal now. It's the same as a runner doing it from second base
PED's but yes, it's been alleged the Yankees had a whistling system for stealing signs in 1961 created by Bob Turley. 100% not interested in a cheating/Maris debate, just pointing out that this has been alleged.
Turley was doing it from the field, in the dugout or as the first base coach. Stealing signs while on the field without any Electronics or binoculars was legal then and legal now. It's the same as a runner doing it from second base
Yeah but still don't know with 100% certainty he didn't try PEDs...
The latest known beginning of steroid and PED use in professional sports was in the early 1950s.
I do not think Maris did it, but I can't say with 100% certainty he didn't. I can't say for sure that any player since then didn't use.
You decided to start posting on the Mets threads? We finally have new owners and the traditional argument of wilpons isnt necessary and it’s replaced by whatever antagonistic points you feel like bringing up. I think we all get your stances, and plenty disagree, so why keep posting on these threads if it just causes fights and ruins it for the rest of us. There isn’t a poster more adored than Shecky and you are managing to chase him off. Heck I have even see Z in weeks either. Why come on to argue? Just go on the baseball thread on Reddit or something.
You decided to start posting on the Mets threads? We finally have new owners and the traditional argument of wilpons isnt necessary and it’s replaced by whatever antagonistic points you feel like bringing up. I think we all get your stances, and plenty disagree, so why keep posting on these threads if it just causes fights and ruins it for the rest of us. There isn’t a poster more adored than Shecky and you are managing to chase him off. Heck I have even see Z in weeks either. Why come on to argue? Just go on the baseball thread on Reddit or something.
I didnt bring up any antagonistic points. I started out thanking god the Mets got rid of their analytics offense crap from last year - a point verified by GKR over and over - and analytics fans Eric and Shecky proceeded to call me names over it
Then Shecky would take passive aggresive potshots at me on various threads, and that would be the only post he makes on the thread
Sorry, but Ive always laughed at Shecky and his useless riddles he posts here. But I never addressed him this year until he started attacking me. Then it became apparent this year that he is a relative or very close friend of the Alderson family
I never start any attacks, but answer back when attacked
RE: RE: Snablats I guess I just don’t understand where and why
You decided to start posting on the Mets threads? We finally have new owners and the traditional argument of wilpons isnt necessary and it’s replaced by whatever antagonistic points you feel like bringing up. I think we all get your stances, and plenty disagree, so why keep posting on these threads if it just causes fights and ruins it for the rest of us. There isn’t a poster more adored than Shecky and you are managing to chase him off. Heck I have even see Z in weeks either. Why come on to argue? Just go on the baseball thread on Reddit or something.
I didnt bring up any antagonistic points. I started out thanking god the Mets got rid of their analytics offense crap from last year - a point verified by GKR over and over - and analytics fans Eric and Shecky proceeded to call me names over it
Then Shecky would take passive aggresive potshots at me on various threads, and that would be the only post he makes on the thread
Sorry, but Ive always laughed at Shecky and his useless riddles he posts here. But I never addressed him this year until he started attacking me. Then it became apparent this year that he is a relative or very close friend of the Alderson family
I never start any attacks, but answer back when attacked
Wow. That you believe any of the bullshit you posted is quite sad.
But you are you, so the rest of us have to suffer.
It's been an awesome season! 97 wins so far!
Tough night against a locked in pitcher tonight...not cool but such is baseball!
Still control their own destiny! Heading into the season you'd have to sign up for this!
Lets go!!!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
I'm not talking about the way it's happened, I'm talking about where we are today, where we will be tomorrow.
This season has brought so much joy..and we still have baseball left. As a long suffering Mets fan, I'm just enjoying it.
So if Mets lose tonight and if you assume worst case and Braves sweep Marlins...
Mets need to either:
Go 2-1 vs Braves, 3-0 vs Nats
Or
3-0 vs Braves, 1-2 vs Nats
Braves have been through this and it shows.
I'm not talking about the way it's happened, I'm talking about where we are today, where we will be tomorrow.
This season has brought so much joy..and we still have baseball left. As a long suffering Mets fan, I'm just enjoying it.
It’s a bit disingenuous to say “I’m not talking about the way it happened”. Context is everything. Super glad that you’ve been soooo happy over the last month of bad baseball against bad teams.
If someone told me before the season that they would win 100 games, then yeah, I’d be super stoked. Not so simple though.
If someone told me that the team would win 100+ games, lead the division for most of the season, but then choke away the division in the last month against the worst teams in the league only to settle for the WC - yeah, not super exciting to me.
But you do you.
Braves have been through this and it shows.
Don't let Speedy see this post, he thinks playoff and pennant race experience don't matter
I run more hot and cold!
Winning the division should be the priority.
Winning the division should be the priority.
This is correct, and some of us have been saying it for 2 months. As you say I don't think some people understand the new playoff format and how it will impact the loser of the division
Winning the division should be the priority.
This is obvious, but I mean, it's not like the Mets have choked. They have 97 wins.
It's full credit to the Braves, who were 10 games behind and had to win THAT much more often to close the gap. They are the Champs for a reason.
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
What a night! Won the game all by himself!!!
Let's gooooooooo!!!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
How do you like Escobar now!?
1-2 vs Braves, 3-0 vs Nats
2-1 vs Braves, 1-2 vs Nats
3-0 vs Braves
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Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
How do you like Escobar now!?
I like him pretty darn good right now. Who doesn’t?
First 5 months of the season? Not so much.
1-2 vs Braves, 3-0 vs Nats
2-1 vs Braves, 1-2 vs Nats
3-0 vs Braves
yup just win the braves series. then all they need is 1 win vs nats (or braves loss).
Three times in a row he came up with the division in the balance and came through all three times.
Had a horrible three months in the middle of the season. Talk about redemption.
This must be the game thread title for the rest of season! (Including playoffs)
Three times in a row he came up with the division in the balance and came through all three times.
Had a horrible three months in the middle of the season. Talk about redemption.
Drove in all the runs 7th inning and later, 3-3 from that point. Amazing! Ya gotta believe.
If Mets sweep two last series, they will have won 8 out of 9
Not an exact match. But close enough for history to repeat itself
This was an enormous win for that alone.
It's been a rough stretch, I will never say a bad word about Escobar again.
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Choking away the division lead in the last month of the season against solely the worst teams in the league!! Yeah baby!
No - I would not have signed up for this at the beginning of the season. But it’s entirely possible to recognize their good season while also being disappointed at their choke job.
The Mets have controlled their own destiny for the last month only to dwindle away. But keep hanging that drum!!!
How do you like Escobar now!?
I like him pretty darn good right now. Who doesn’t?
First 5 months of the season? Not so much.
i mean hes ok lol
In my opinion, the Mets and Braves battle is giving this team some "playoff" type experience. I also feel the NL East has the best top 2 teams in baseball which is proven by the defending World Series Champions and the now contending Mets. Phillies are also a quality team.
This NL East battle has been amazing and while the cushion of the Wildcard is there, we need to win this division.
The Mets haters are starting to get nervous because we are now legitimate.
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how much more difficult the postseason will be if the Mets only get the WC versus the Division.
Winning the division should be the priority.
This is correct, and some of us have been saying it for 2 months. As you say I don't think some people understand the new playoff format and how it will impact the loser of the division
+1,000,000
The road is much more difficult with an additional WC round. I want to avoid it at all costs. That said, all that experience didn't seem to help ATL much last night, and thank you Eduardo Escobar! I've been down on him most of this season, but he's picked it up when he's been needed the most.
Right now the forecast shows no rain for the weekend (may even buy a ticket:)
Thanks for the update KD, the walks are a great sign. I love to see how patient he's become.
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4 straight games with 2 walks each. Yesterday, had 2 walks and 2 hits. His early AAA struggles are behind him. His AAA BA is now up to .234. Because of 34 walks in 45 AAA games, his AAA OBP is actually now higher than his AA OBP. (.382 to .368). 70 walks and 27 HRs in 112 minor league games. Doesn't turn 21 until the season is over
Thanks for the update KD, the walks are a great sign. I love to see how patient he's become.
the walks are indeed a great sign. I still think he needs a full year at Triple A next year so that he can work on his defensive inefficiencies, more than anything else. His bat seems major league ready or very close to major league ready right now.
the walks are indeed a great sign. I still think he needs a full year at Triple A next year so that he can work on his defensive inefficiencies, more than anything else. His bat seems major league ready or very close to major league ready right now.
I agree that he should start in Syracuse, but I'm not sure he'll need a full year. That depends on how his first half goes. If he's lighting it up, and his defense shows improvement, I could see him being a mid- to late-season call-up.
Brett Baty named all-prospect team 3b... however C wasn't Francisco Alvarez it was... Ex-@mets
C Endy Rodriguez
Brett Baty named all-prospect team 3b... however C wasn't Francisco Alvarez it was... Ex-@mets
C Endy Rodriguez
We gave him up for Lucchesi? Wow he has really taken off
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sign 17 year old OF Randy Guzman and
Brett Baty named all-prospect team 3b... however C wasn't Francisco Alvarez it was... Ex-@mets
C Endy Rodriguez
We gave him up for Lucchesi? Wow he has really taken off
Correct. For Lucchesi
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sign 17 year old OF Randy Guzman and
Brett Baty named all-prospect team 3b... however C wasn't Francisco Alvarez it was... Ex-@mets
C Endy Rodriguez
We gave him up for Lucchesi? Wow he has really taken off
Correct. For Lucchesi
I'm sure you looked at his numbers... ridiculous 2022 progress! This one could end up hurting big time if he ends up better than Alvarez long term
Just another example that trading prospects is always a gamble on both sides
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Mets-Braves probables.
Advantage: Mets in all three games?
Friday:
RHP Jacob deGrom (5-3, 2.93) vs.
LHP Max Fried (13-7, 2.50)
Saturday:
RHP Max Scherzer (11-4, 2.13) vs.
RHP Kyle Wright (20-5, 3.18)
Sunday:
RHP Chris Bassitt (15-8, 3.27) vs.
RHP Charlie Morton (9-6, 4.29)
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Pressing and Falling apart.
Braves have been through this and it shows.
Don't let Speedy see this post, he thinks playoff and pennant race experience don't matter
LOL! You’re the moron who discounted 2020 playoff experience as somehow not meaningful, because it fucked up your narrative.
And as I said the other day in response to your stupid post, the September offensive numbers for Pete, Escobar, McNeil, Lindor, Nimmo and Nido destroy your argument. Since you seem incapable of doing research to back up your bullshit, here are some numbers for you:
Escobar: 330 BA, 370 OBP, 638 SLG, 1.107 OPS, 8 HR, 24 RBI, 16 runs
Pete: 245 BA, 345 OBP, 435 SLG, 924 OPS, 9 HR, 26 RBI, 20 runs
MeNeil: 330 BA, 411 OBP, 372 SLG (not great), 783 OPS (still very good despite low SLG), 14 runs
Nimmo: 264 BA, 396 OBP, 414 SLG, 810 OPS, 20 runs
Nido: 333 BA, 340 OBP, 563 SLG, 903 OPS, 2 HR (he had ZEO before September), 8 RBI (had had a whopping 19 before September)
Lindor: 308 BA, 342 OBP, 510 SLG, 852 OPS, 4 HR, 18 RBI (the most he's had in any month except for May), 17 runs
For offensive players who are "choking" because they have "no playoff experience", those numbers are pretty good, I'd say.
But we all know you simply ignore any evidence that shows the stupidity of your takes. So you keep doing you, I guess.
It's especially apparent against lefties when we either need to start Guillorme or Ruf in the field.
Marte has been so good all year and really underappreciated. Huge piece of this team.
It's especially apparent against lefties when we either need to start Guillorme or Ruf in the field.
Marte has been so good all year and really underappreciated. Huge piece of this team.
Agree. It was rumored he would return for the Braves series, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
The offensive has held up well, considering his absence...
2% chance of rain in Atlanta for tomorrow, 6% and 5% for Sat and Sunday
He needs to throw out the first pitch on Mponday and when the Mets host the Phils for the first time next season.
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in my opinion, is the absence of Marte
It's especially apparent against lefties when we either need to start Guillorme or Ruf in the field.
Marte has been so good all year and really underappreciated. Huge piece of this team.
Agree. It was rumored he would return for the Braves series, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
The offensive has held up well, considering his absence...
In ym view, I don't expect hm back until either the NLDS (best case scenario) or the NLCS (realistic scenario). There's also a chance he's not back at all this season if it was more serious than they made it out to be. Hopefully the Mets wn the division and avoid the WC round completely.
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On weather and the plan for tomorrow’s game?
2% chance of rain in Atlanta for tomorrow, 6% and 5% for Sat and Sunday
Thanks Dan - crossing my fingers that they can play all 3 without resorting to a DH on Sunday. Goes without saying that this is the biggest series of the year - with the top 3 guys going anything less than 2 out of 3 would be a disappointment. Let's hope for a big time rebound from Jake
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Pressing and Falling apart.
Braves have been through this and it shows.
Don't let Speedy see this post, he thinks playoff and pennant race experience don't matter
LOL! You’re the moron who discounted 2020 playoff experience as somehow not meaningful, because it fucked up your narrative.
And as I said the other day in response to your stupid post, the September offensive numbers for Pete, Escobar, McNeil, Lindor, Nimmo and Nido destroy your argument. Since you seem incapable of doing research to back up your bullshit, here are some numbers for you:
Escobar: 330 BA, 370 OBP, 638 SLG, 1.107 OPS, 8 HR, 24 RBI, 16 runs
Pete: 245 BA, 345 OBP, 435 SLG, 924 OPS, 9 HR, 26 RBI, 20 runs
MeNeil: 330 BA, 411 OBP, 372 SLG (not great), 783 OPS (still very good despite low SLG), 14 runs
Nimmo: 264 BA, 396 OBP, 414 SLG, 810 OPS, 20 runs
Nido: 333 BA, 340 OBP, 563 SLG, 903 OPS, 2 HR (he had ZEO before September), 8 RBI (had had a whopping 19 before September)
Lindor: 308 BA, 342 OBP, 510 SLG, 852 OPS, 4 HR, 18 RBI (the most he's had in any month except for May), 17 runs
For offensive players who are "choking" because they have "no playoff experience", those numbers are pretty good, I'd say.
But we all know you simply ignore any evidence that shows the stupidity of your takes. So you keep doing you, I guess.
2020 doesnt count because it wasnt a real season, there were no fans in the stands, players opted out. It wasnt anything like a real pennant race or playoffs. Sorry if you are too damn stupid to understand that
Total numbers dont take into account situations in a game and who they played against, which were the worst teams in the league. They SHOULD have decent numbers against bad teams. But the facts are they went 11-9 vs bad teams, and poor clutch hitting was a big reason why
Even Gary Cohen brought it up yesterday, how the pressure could be affecting the hitters (note Lindor and Pete and McNeil all had terrible at bats in crucial spots last night)
Note that all teams in every sport look to trade for veteran guys at the deadline because they have been through it
You really seem to have a superficial knowledge of sports. And you still think Alonso is an above average defensive player even though your beloved analytics say otherwise
have also signed 19 year old OF Rainer Reyes.
2020 doesnt count because it wasnt a real season, there were no fans in the stands, players opted out. It wasnt anything like a real pennant race or playoffs. Sorry if you are too damn stupid to understand that
Total numbers dont take into account situations in a game and who they played against, which were the worst teams in the league. They SHOULD have decent numbers against bad teams. But the facts are they went 11-9 vs bad teams, and poor clutch hitting was a big reason why
Even Gary Cohen brought it up yesterday, how the pressure could be affecting the hitters (note Lindor and Pete and McNeil all had terrible at bats in crucial spots last night)
Note that all teams in every sport look to trade for veteran guys at the deadline because they have been through it
You really seem to have a superficial knowledge of sports. And you still think Alonso is an above average defensive player even though your beloved analytics say otherwise
Sigh....
Of course 2020 doesn't count - because it blows up your narrative. Did they not still play games with intense pressure? Did they not play win or go home games? Did they not crown a champion?
Have players had individual AB's in Sept where they didn't come through, even against bad teams? Well of fucking course! This is a sport where even the best player fail 7 of every 10 times, numbnuts
Darin Ruf has postseason experience - from last year no less, there were fans in the stands, and everything! - how's that worked out for him this year? He was the "veteran" they acquired at the deadline because he's "been through it", and he has failed spectacularly.
You can ignore them all you want, but their September numbers are what they are. The pitching has been the problem in September - especially Carrasco and Walker, go look at their numbers for September (August, too for that matter)
You're such a fucking moron, I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.
Re Alonso - stop putting words in my mouth, asshole. I never said he was an above defensive player. You keep saying he's a "bad" defensive player, which simply isn't true. The metrics say otherwise, but you ignore those and go with your "eye test", like somehow that means anything.
You also wanted Dom to play 1B over Pete, despite the fact that any difference Dom had in defensive ability was SIGNIFICANTLY outweighed by the difference in offensive numbers (I must have told you that at least 100 times).
How'd that work out for you?
Speaking of superficial sports knowledge, I don't even though why I bother with you; you're the asshole who thinks Judge just tied the major league HR mark last night (pssst, it's the AMERICAN LEAGUE title, moron) and that no one outside NYC knows that Judge is also going for the triple crown.
I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
Both Baty and ex-@mets prospect Endy Rodriguez also made @keithlaw’s list of prospects who had standout seasons worth mentioning #Mets
I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
If you honestly can't get past this, there is something for it.
It's the only thing that makes these threads tolerable this year...
Problem is, it only works on computers, not phone or ipad.
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It's the only thing that makes these threads tolerable this year...
Problem is, it only works on computers, not phone or ipad.
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Hey, its Alderson's relative
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
OK, wow - lots of stupid to unpack here.
First - when a ball gets past the catcher, it's not ALWAYS called a wild pitch; there is a little category that official scorers used called PASSED BALL. You should read up on it, you might learn something. But knowing you, probably not.
Second - you have consistently called Pete a bad fielding 1B, don't make up shit now. Yes, Dom is marginally better fielder than Pete - I have said that many times. But - as I've also said many times - any difference in their fielding abilities was more than outweighed by their offensive differences. Think about it - if Dom was THAT much better than Pete in fielding, Buck would have played Dom there ALL THE TIME. The Mets would have solved their DH problems by using Pete there all season. Only problem is, Dom couldn't hit the broad side of the barn; he didn't hit even ONE home run in over 365 days, covering two seasons!
So Buck - like everyone else with a brain - knew that Dom was marginally better enough on D to give Pete a breather a few times in late innings, but not nearly offensively good enough to play every day at 1B. Tell us, genius - why isn't Dom the every day 1B, if he's "so much better" at fielding than Pete?
Third - I can't help but to simply LOL at the fact that you you use Maris's son as an example of someone to support your argument that Bonds shouldn't be the record holder! That's some grade A stupidity right here. PS - Maris's family gave McGwire lots of love when HR broke Maris's record - they even attended the very game he broke it and hugged him after he rounded the bases. How to you explain that? He has the same steroids cloud hanging over him that Bonds does, so their treatment of the HR record should be the same for Bonds and Mac, right?
Just because you and a few others morons don't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not official.
Since you lack basic knowledge about baseball, let me clue you in on a little something - Maris's record was also decried/not acknowledged by many, because he hit 61 after game 154. In fact, there was much discussion about the placement of mythical asterisk next to Maris's record because of that. See link below for a little history lesson. The irony of the people denying Bonds's record and falling back to Maris's record is too fucking funny. Well, it's sad more than funny, I suppose, to see so much stupidity out there.
So again - you (and any other moron who tries to pretend Bonds's record doesn't exist) are simply wrong to say Judge has tied the ML mark. Period. Full stop.
But you're wrong a lot, so I'm sure one more time won't phase you much.
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I try to ignore you - like everyone else does - but you say such stupid shit I can't help get sucked in sometimes. Shame on me, I've got to stop doing that.
If you honestly can't get past this, there is something for it.
I know there is a mute function and I use it for him, but the problem is it doesn't work on mobile devices, which is how I view BBI most of the time.
It also doesn't work when someone replies to him in a thread, because I can see then see his comments in the reply.
So that's what I meant when I said I need to be better about not getting sucked in.
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that when the pitch hits the dirt the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
And that wasnt the first time you didnt know basic things like that
And we can pull up dozens of posts where you call Pete an above average 1B defensively because thats what the analytics said last year (which was a joke because he couldnt pick a ball to save his life and that clearly didnt go against his metrics). And we can pull up dozens of posts where I say he is below average, because he is
And we can look at how many times Dom came in for Pete defensively in the late innings, which is why Dom stayed on the roster for so long while not hitting. Clearly Buck wanted Dom on the team for that purpose, too
Gary Cohen said last night what was obvious - the hitters have been choking in big spots when they didnt from April-August. And he said it was the pressure of the pennant race
And no, I dont recognize Bonds as the record holder, neither do a lot of people, as Maris Jr said last night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on Bonds and no one will change it
If you want to ignore me, go ahead, I surely dont care
OK, wow - lots of stupid to unpack here.
First - when a ball gets past the catcher, it's not ALWAYS called a wild pitch; there is a little category that official scorers used called PASSED BALL. You should read up on it, you might learn something. But knowing you, probably not.
Second - you have consistently called Pete a bad fielding 1B, don't make up shit now. Yes, Dom is marginally better fielder than Pete - I have said that many times. But - as I've also said many times - any difference in their fielding abilities was more than outweighed by their offensive differences. Think about it - if Dom was THAT much better than Pete in fielding, Buck would have played Dom there ALL THE TIME. The Mets would have solved their DH problems by using Pete there all season. Only problem is, Dom couldn't hit the broad side of the barn; he didn't hit even ONE home run in over 365 days, covering two seasons!
So Buck - like everyone else with a brain - knew that Dom was marginally better enough on D to give Pete a breather a few times in late innings, but not nearly offensively good enough to play every day at 1B. Tell us, genius - why isn't Dom the every day 1B, if he's "so much better" at fielding than Pete?
Third - I can't help but to simply LOL at the fact that you you use Maris's son as an example of someone to support your argument that Bonds shouldn't be the record holder! That's some grade A stupidity right here. PS - Maris's family gave McGwire lots of love when HR broke Maris's record - they even attended the very game he broke it and hugged him after he rounded the bases. How to you explain that? He has the same steroids cloud hanging over him that Bonds does, so their treatment of the HR record should be the same for Bonds and Mac, right?
Just because you and a few others morons don't acknowledge it, doesn't mean it's not official.
Since you lack basic knowledge about baseball, let me clue you in on a little something - Maris's record was also decried/not acknowledged by many, because he hit 61 after game 154. In fact, there was much discussion about the placement of mythical asterisk next to Maris's record because of that. See link below for a little history lesson. The irony of the people denying Bonds's record and falling back to Maris's record is too fucking funny. Well, it's sad more than funny, I suppose, to see so much stupidity out there.
So again - you (and any other moron who tries to pretend Bonds's record doesn't exist) are simply wrong to say Judge has tied the ML mark. Period. Full stop.
But you're wrong a lot, so I'm sure one more time won't phase you much.
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Your reading comprehension is so bad I wonder how you got thru middle school
1. I will cut and paste this from my earlier post, then add capitalization so you can see how dumb you are: "when the pitch HITS THE DIRT the official scorer always calls it a wild pitch when it gets past the catcher - whether the catcher should have blocked it or not
Did you see the HITS THE DIRT part this time?
2. No one, including me, has ever said to play Dom regularly over Pete. The fact that you cannot admit Pete isnt a good fielding 1B is astounding. Dom is miles better defensively, not "marginally" as you keep claiming. If Dom was only marginally better, he would not have lasted on the roster as long as he did. There is nothing else to say because now you are making up crap and trying to change the argument
3. When McGwire broke the record, steriods werent even talked about, no one was saying cheater, so your point, as usual, is useless. What does wanting an asterisk in 1961 have to do with now? Maris didnt cheat, the asterisk was about playing more games than Ruth to hit 61. Seriously, you have no idea how to even argue, you bring in stuff that has nothing to do with anything because you have no argument to make
I asked how can you prove it didn't.
Which is my point.
The only players villified are those who have been caught, not all who did it.
We can never know who did and didn't, which is why I choose not to villify anyone.
"Nonetheless, statistical projections can be revealing. Mine are based on a combination of my SCHOENE player projections for box score stats as well as three-year, luck-adjusted Regularized Adjusted Four Factors (RAPM) from NBAshotcharts.com. I estimate games played based on those missed over the past three years then make subjective predictions for playing time.
The result is an expected wins total based on average health luck. Because some teams will have better or worse fortune, but we don't know which ones, the average totals will inevitably be closer to .500 than the actual final standings.
Let's take a look."
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But now we have the Braves right? If we do this right we have it! Go Mets! I’m wearing my hat all the time!
Turley was doing it from the field, in the dugout or as the first base coach. Stealing signs while on the field without any Electronics or binoculars was legal then and legal now. It's the same as a runner doing it from second base
I actually miss those off seasons now
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PED's but yes, it's been alleged the Yankees had a whistling system for stealing signs in 1961 created by Bob Turley. 100% not interested in a cheating/Maris debate, just pointing out that this has been alleged.
Turley was doing it from the field, in the dugout or as the first base coach. Stealing signs while on the field without any Electronics or binoculars was legal then and legal now. It's the same as a runner doing it from second base
Yeah but still don't know with 100% certainty he didn't try PEDs...
The latest known beginning of steroid and PED use in professional sports was in the early 1950s.
I do not think Maris did it, but I can't say with 100% certainty he didn't. I can't say for sure that any player since then didn't use.
We don't know, we'll never know.
I actually miss those off seasons now
This isn’t even remotely accurate.
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Was always in a good natured fun way of arguing.
I actually miss those off seasons now
This isn’t even remotely accurate.
I agree with you but didnt want to say it
Also, others start calling me names and saying derogatory things, then I answer back. So any contentious discussions didnt start with me
Now the only question is which dupe is he…
Wow..ok..let's go
Vientos and Ruf have had their shot.
Maybe 3rd times the charm here!
Now the only question is which dupe is he…
Wrong again, but what else is new
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Was always in a good natured fun way of arguing.
I actually miss those off seasons now
This isn’t even remotely accurate.
I agree with you but didnt want to say it
Also, others start calling me names and saying derogatory things, then I answer back. So any contentious discussions didnt start with me
Others started calling you names because you started posting stupid shit so people called you out on it.
Pretty simple, really.
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That is fantastic! Better late than never.
He can’t be worse than Ruf
The bonds HR mark is official. No matter what you and your fellow morons think.
I didnt bring up any antagonistic points. I started out thanking god the Mets got rid of their analytics offense crap from last year - a point verified by GKR over and over - and analytics fans Eric and Shecky proceeded to call me names over it
Then Shecky would take passive aggresive potshots at me on various threads, and that would be the only post he makes on the thread
Sorry, but Ive always laughed at Shecky and his useless riddles he posts here. But I never addressed him this year until he started attacking me. Then it became apparent this year that he is a relative or very close friend of the Alderson family
I never start any attacks, but answer back when attacked
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You decided to start posting on the Mets threads? We finally have new owners and the traditional argument of wilpons isnt necessary and it’s replaced by whatever antagonistic points you feel like bringing up. I think we all get your stances, and plenty disagree, so why keep posting on these threads if it just causes fights and ruins it for the rest of us. There isn’t a poster more adored than Shecky and you are managing to chase him off. Heck I have even see Z in weeks either. Why come on to argue? Just go on the baseball thread on Reddit or something.
I didnt bring up any antagonistic points. I started out thanking god the Mets got rid of their analytics offense crap from last year - a point verified by GKR over and over - and analytics fans Eric and Shecky proceeded to call me names over it
Then Shecky would take passive aggresive potshots at me on various threads, and that would be the only post he makes on the thread
Sorry, but Ive always laughed at Shecky and his useless riddles he posts here. But I never addressed him this year until he started attacking me. Then it became apparent this year that he is a relative or very close friend of the Alderson family
I never start any attacks, but answer back when attacked
Wow. That you believe any of the bullshit you posted is quite sad.
But you are you, so the rest of us have to suffer.
Hated in Rangers threads
Even hated in weather threads
But plays the victim
And oh, is ALWAYS right…
Please do everyone a favor, just take your ball and go home already.