He was on Russillo's pod earlier.
He had 3 QBs going in the 1st & in this order: Stroud, Young, & Levis.
On Stroud: Poise in pocket, mobile, & good @ fitting ball in tough spots. He's hit or miss though.
Young: Small dude...5'10 & 186. Not a Murray or Wilson in that those guys are small, but built. Bryce is just skinny AF. There's worries how he'll hold up in NFL.
Levis: Weight room fanatic, but needs to be reeled in @ times since he's too pumped. When it comes to touch & finesse...Levis is missing too much. Work ethic & leadership are exceptional. 2 scouts: 1) Everyone on campus loves him & 2) His tape grade will only go up after season to draft. He'll be a star in pre draft process. Big arm, makes plays down the field...Peyton Manning said Levis stood out the most of college QBs due to his work ethic.
Says Richardson is the most gifted QB in this class, but very inconsistent as a passer. Thinks him & Van Dyke need another year in college & that Richardson could go 1st overall in '24 draft.
Van Dyke needs more work. He just stares down receivers.
Mark Stoops & Kentucky defensive players used Richardson's Heisman Trophy talk-premature AF IMO-as fuel & shut him down. McShay thinks Richardson is still learning how to be a pocket passer.
Russillo brings up good point about how people see Brees & Russ & think being a small QB isn't a BFD. Rusillo thinks it is...cites Murray having problems seeing past his OL. This is in reference to Young. McShay thinks Young might be an outlier because of his qualities: maneuvering inside pocket, showing up in big games, carrying team if need be, i.e. Texas game.
Re. OSU QBs: do Buckeyes make it so easy in getting their WRs open that the NFL becomes more of a challenge? McShay thinks OSU makes it easier than anyone else getting WRs open. Re. Fields...got stuck on one read @ Columbus & still a problem for him in NFL. McShay doesn't see that with Stroud; CJ goes through more progressions/faster than anyone in college football absent Young. McShay thinks Stroud is different than typical OSU QB.
Also I think the top 3 can go in the top 6-8 picks
Richardson could be in the Giants sights at 10-15.
I can see the latter happening, but not the former.
Hopefully more guys emerge as the season plays out. Be nice to have 4-5 guys that our staff is comfortable with somewhere in round 1.
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Are gonna sh!r themselves when we extend Jones and franchise Barkley.
I can see the latter happening, but not the former.
We need a WR and CB in the top of the draft as they are way too expensive as FAs. Also, there is not a qb in this draft with upside potential that could do any better than Jones with this horrific offense.
Also I think the top 3 can go in the top 6-8 picks
Richardson could be in the Giants sights at 10-15.
Great call out on Hall. He's got some Russell Wilson to him, but he's going to be a 25 year old rookie. That will be a concern for some teams.
As for Levis, it wouldn't shock me at all if he winds up being the first QB taken, particularly if the Texans wind up with that pick.
OL will be ok, maybe a guard or C in the 2nd or 3rd round and a guard in free agency.
I’m not sure Tyrod Taylor is the long term answer…
I respectfully disagree, Levis is 3 years older than Stroud.
Right. You're the guy who said Daniel Jones is better than Dak Prescott.
The OSU line gives them as much time as they want. They face no pressure, none, zip. Make a read, make a second read, make another read, go back to the first read, order pizza, scan the field, eat the pizza, throw when you feel like it. Haskins was basically under no duress at all. He might as well have been wearing a red no-contact jersey in a practice.
I recall that he was inaccurate on at least some of his first few passes, and then zip! zip! zip! he was throwing TDs and OSU had a big lead. But I wasn't impressed with him and was glad the Giants didn't take him.
Taylor is not a long term solution. He’ll start the season probably but my guess is Levis is the QB drafted for NYG.
100% that is stinks Ohio State is rarely tested to see their QB in a more unfavorable environment.
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his take on those positions?
Right. You're the guy who said Daniel Jones is better than Dak Prescott.
He's a guy who doesn't like "running backs" playing QB
Nobody is good at scouting QBs. This should be accepted by looking at draft history and old mock drafts. You just have to roll the dice.
Says the QB Whisperer who says stick with status quo in NY because change is scary...
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and look great are NOT franchise QBs, but the guy who McShay just said has plenty of issues and who hasnt looked good this year IS the franchise QB
Says the QB Whisperer who says stick with status quo in NY because change is scary...
Hey, the lying dupe just made his 500th post of the day, and in it he makes up crap again
And then let's compound the problem by putting him behind our crap o line and have him throw to our terrible receivers.
And then when we continue to lose let's get another head coach and offensive coordinator who will then say we need to fix the o line and get receivers
By then the drafted QB will be shell shocked from being pounded, and everyone will be screaming we need to draft a QB.
Stop the nonsense with the way to fix the offense is simply to draft a QB.
Dallas beat us with a back up QB because their o line and receivers were much better than ours. That should speak volumes.
Jones, no Jones, it doesn't matter. Fix the o line. Get receivers. Then get your QB.
But in the meantime someone will need to be QB. So who will that be? That is what needs to be answered.
We are in this mess because DG put the cart before the horse. He drafted a running back and QB without fixing the o line and then traded our only good receiver away.
Dallas and Philly continue to be better even with not great quarterbacks because they always have good o lines and receivers.
And then let's compound the problem by putting him behind our crap o line and have him throw to our terrible receivers.
And then when we continue to lose let's get another head coach and offensive coordinator who will then say we need to fix the o line and get receivers
By then the drafted QB will be shell shocked from being pounded, and everyone will be screaming we need to draft a QB.
Stop the nonsense with the way to fix the offense is simply to draft a QB.
Dallas beat us with a back up QB because their o line and receivers were much better than ours. That should speak volumes.
Jones, no Jones, it doesn't matter. Fix the o line. Get receivers. Then get your QB.
But in the meantime someone will need to be QB. So who will that be? That is what needs to be answered.
We are in this mess because DG put the cart before the horse. He drafted a running back and QB without fixing the o line and then traded our only good receiver away.
Dallas and Philly continue to be better even with not great quarterbacks because they always have good o lines and receivers.
That assumes JS isn't any better than DG, in which case we're doomed anyway.
However since I believe JS isn't a bumbling baffoon, he absolutely should do everything he can to draft is own QB if he's high on one
And then let's compound the problem by putting him behind our crap o line and have him throw to our terrible receivers.
And then when we continue to lose let's get another head coach and offensive coordinator who will then say we need to fix the o line and get receivers
By then the drafted QB will be shell shocked from being pounded, and everyone will be screaming we need to draft a QB.
Stop the nonsense with the way to fix the offense is simply to draft a QB.
Dallas beat us with a back up QB because their o line and receivers were much better than ours. That should speak volumes.
Jones, no Jones, it doesn't matter. Fix the o line. Get receivers. Then get your QB.
But in the meantime someone will need to be QB. So who will that be? That is what needs to be answered.
We are in this mess because DG put the cart before the horse. He drafted a running back and QB without fixing the o line and then traded our only good receiver away.
Dallas and Philly continue to be better even with not great quarterbacks because they always have good o lines and receivers.
Regardless of all of that, the Giants will still need another QB as Jones didn't have his option picked up.
Similarly, if Schoen/Daboll think one of the 2023 guys is the guy they should pick them no matter where they're drafting.
He will probably want a fresh start regardless of the money.
He will end up in New Orleans. Book it.
Or better yet, let's stick with the mistake we made 5 years ago. I'm not sure I understand the "don't draft a QB that high because the last one didn't work out, just stick with the last one that didn't work out" argument.
Notice who he never mentioned- Hooker from Tennessee. I have posted numerous times here that he’s a gimmick offense QB- they race the defense to the LOS and then throw quick passes to the sideline using bubble screens. Won’t fly in the NFL. Even when he does go down the field, he shows little to no accuracy- again, won’t fly in the NFL.
Instead build the o line and receivers and then go get the quarterback you have a real conviction on. Whether that be draft, FA, or trade.
-2nd nationally in Pro Football Focus’ Overall Grade among all P5 QBs, with a grade of 92.2.
-2nd in PFF’s Passing Grade (91.9).
-6th in Big Time Throw Rate (PFF) among P5 QBs at 8.5%.
-6th in yards-per attempt (10.4)
He has also shown tremendous growth during his career:
2020: 72-for-131, 1,056 yards, 6 TDs, 6 INTs, 55 CMP%, 8.1 YPA
2021: 122-for-194, 1,539 yards, 15 TDs, 6 INTs, 62.3 CMP%, 7.9 YPA
2022: 60-for-91, 945 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT, 65.9 CMP%, 10.4 YPA (4 games)
I'll let you guys figure it out, but you might want to tune into the 3:30 ABC game tomorrow. It's likely going to be a shootout.