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montanagiant : 9/29/2022 8:18 pm
I like these White Bengal unis much better than their regular ones.

I'm sensing a Miami letdown tonight. They just played one of the more exhausting games I have ever seen. Tough to play 4 days later after that
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/29/2022 8:19 pm : link
I think Bengals roll tonight.
great power TD by Mixon  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:24 pm : link
great back
Keion Crossen with the foolish personal foul  
shyster : 9/29/2022 8:25 pm : link
to help the scoring drive along.
That  
Ron Johnson : 9/29/2022 8:27 pm : link
Couldn’t have been easier
At this stage of my life  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 8:29 pm : link
I enjoy Thursday Night Football. But you re correct Montana, tough for Dolphins after that game to travel and play 4 nights later

NFL- compromises safety, among other things for the $
RE: great power TD by Mixon  
section125 : 9/29/2022 8:29 pm : link
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great back


No it wasn't. That was a Rugby scrum with most of the oline pushing him across the line.
Should not have changed the rule.
Hill and Waddle...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/29/2022 8:30 pm : link
Wish we had both.
RE: RE: great power TD by Mixon  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15838183 section125 said:
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great back



No it wasn't. That was a Rugby scrum with most of the oline pushing him across the line.
Should not have changed the rule.


He had help but those legs kept driving.
Wow  
Boatie Warrant : 9/29/2022 8:33 pm : link
Talking about moving the ball
What a change in  
section125 : 9/29/2022 8:34 pm : link
Tua. He is playing great.

Just as Edmonds drops an easy TD pass.
Now  
OBJRoyal : 9/29/2022 8:35 pm : link
This is an offense. Wow

All the movement and guys running wide open all over the field is crazy
just fyi  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:35 pm : link
both these teams were terrible a couple of years ago. We were laughing at them.
RE: RE: RE: great power TD by Mixon  
section125 : 9/29/2022 8:36 pm : link
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great back



No it wasn't. That was a Rugby scrum with most of the oline pushing him across the line.
Should not have changed the rule.



He had help but those legs kept driving.


He was stopped at the 4 yard line and was pushed over the line by 3 linemen.
Give  
Toth029 : 9/29/2022 8:37 pm : link
Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.
RE: RE: RE: RE: great power TD by Mixon  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:38 pm : link
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great back



No it wasn't. That was a Rugby scrum with most of the oline pushing him across the line.
Should not have changed the rule.



He had help but those legs kept driving.



He was stopped at the 4 yard line and was pushed over the line by 3 linemen.


if he doesn't keep driving they can't get him in. A lot of guys get stopped there. You don't think Mixon is a great back?
RE: Give  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15838196 Toth029 said:
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.


It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.
Where is this game televised???  
DefenseWins : 9/29/2022 8:40 pm : link
NFL network has an old game on
RE: Where is this game televised???  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15838199 DefenseWins said:
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NFL network has an old game on


Amazon Prime
RE: just fyi  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 8:41 pm : link
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both these teams were terrible a couple of years ago. We were laughing at them.


People were laughing at the Giants last season, now they are 2-1
RE: RE: just fyi  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:42 pm : link
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both these teams were terrible a couple of years ago. We were laughing at them.



People were laughing at the Giants last season, now they are 2-1


indeed
RE: RE: just fyi  
OBJRoyal : 9/29/2022 8:43 pm : link
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both these teams were terrible a couple of years ago. We were laughing at them.



People were laughing at the Giants last season, now they are 2-1


Most are probably still laughing
RE: RE: Give  
Toth029 : 9/29/2022 8:46 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.

Tua didn't look so deadly accurate and decisive last year, did he. He dinked and dunked all year. Coaching matters as does talent around him. My post wasn't even relative to Jones but to the offense Daboll and Kafka want to employ. You can't with dipshits as your top WRs. Some fans aren't patient enough to wait and see how things unravel. Hell some were bitching thar Andrew Thomas gave up a few pressures and he's the top rated OT in football.
RE: RE: RE: Give  
Producer : 9/29/2022 8:49 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.


Tua didn't look so deadly accurate and decisive last year, did he. He dinked and dunked all year. Coaching matters as does talent around him. My post wasn't even relative to Jones but to the offense Daboll and Kafka want to employ. You can't with dipshits as your top WRs. Some fans aren't patient enough to wait and see how things unravel. Hell some were bitching thar Andrew Thomas gave up a few pressures and he's the top rated OT in football.


Tua had some very encouraging moments last season, and bad moments as well. The coach hated him. I think I was the only person on this board that did not abandon Tua last season. He has always possessed elite accuracy. In college and in the pros. He had very good accuracy last season. Tua got better from year 1 to year 2. And now better from year 2 to year 3. That is what you must see from your young QB. I don't think he is a definite future top-10 guy but he is on his way at the moment.
Most times you close your eyes and throw to Hill  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/29/2022 8:53 pm : link
You look good. Sometimes your noodle arm lets the other team get under the ball
RE: RE: RE: just fyi  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 8:53 pm : link
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both these teams were terrible a couple of years ago. We were laughing at them.



People were laughing at the Giants last season, now they are 2-1



Most are probably still laughing


2-1 something to laugh at? Bengals are 1-2 with a loss to the, oh yea… Cowboys.
The Bengals line looks a lot better.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/29/2022 8:53 pm : link
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That was a terrible pass by Tua  
PatersonPlank : 9/29/2022 8:54 pm : link
Underthrew the receiver by 10 yards
What does that mean?  
Atari2600 : 9/29/2022 8:58 pm : link
You’re not imply ting this gm should spend millions on Daniel jones are you ?

why? because he tries really hard?

Meanwhile Tua wasn’t without his critics; didn’t Flores get fired for this?

Uniforms are awful btw
What is the yards after the catch thing  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/29/2022 9:00 pm : link
That Herbstreit is talking about? Maybe we should try that.
RE: RE: Give  
Ron Johnson : 9/29/2022 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15838198 Producer said:
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.



8:40 and it’s a Daniel Jones thread.

Dude, let go of the hate, it’s unhealthy.
RE: RE: RE: Give  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 9:10 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.




8:40 and it’s a Daniel Jones thread.

Dude, let go of the hate, it’s unhealthy.


Relentless
Seems like Tyreek is open on every single  
Strahan91 : 9/29/2022 9:14 pm : link
passing play
RE: RE: Give  
speedywheels : 9/29/2022 9:16 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.


Look what happens when you give a QB a quality WR like hill. It’s magic!

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RE: RE: RE: RE: Give  
speedywheels : 9/29/2022 9:18 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.


Tua didn't look so deadly accurate and decisive last year, did he. He dinked and dunked all year. Coaching matters as does talent around him. My post wasn't even relative to Jones but to the offense Daboll and Kafka want to employ. You can't with dipshits as your top WRs. Some fans aren't patient enough to wait and see how things unravel. Hell some were bitching thar Andrew Thomas gave up a few pressures and he's the top rated OT in football.



Tua had some very encouraging moments last season, and bad moments as well. The coach hated him. I think I was the only person on this board that did not abandon Tua last season. He has always possessed elite accuracy. In college and in the pros. He had very good accuracy last season. Tua got better from year 1 to year 2. And now better from year 2 to year 3. That is what you must see from your young QB. I don't think he is a definite future top-10 guy but he is on his way at the moment.


He looks better because he’s been given a HUGE weapon at WR.

Funny how that works.
Watching bengals tonight  
LG in NYC : 9/29/2022 9:20 pm : link
It’s like watching the Giants offense

Rushed QB play, dropped passes, covered receivers…



Jones’s best weapon at WR is Ritchie fucking James  
speedywheels : 9/29/2022 9:20 pm : link
Tua has hill.

Hmmmmmmm….
yea Tua.. it's a tough league..  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:22 pm : link
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oh brother i wrote the above before the injury  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:23 pm : link
ugly
The shanahan offense  
dancing blue bear : 9/29/2022 9:24 pm : link
Is a really good fit for tua-IMO. That’s partly why he looks better too.
Wtf  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/29/2022 9:24 pm : link
Was that?
Was that a concussion?  
j_rud : 9/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
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looks similar to Russ Wilson's injury last season  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
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Tua seems like a QB  
RCPhoenix : 9/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
Who will not be able to stay healthy
That's a definite concussion  
montanagiant : 9/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
the fingers flexing like that is not good
Ummm either Tua's finger  
jvm52106 : 9/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
Is fucked up or he was concussed (again)..
RE: Was that a concussion?  
Strahan91 : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
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He probably had one last week as well
Did he just have a  
bubba0825 : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
Seizure On the field?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Give  
PatersonPlank : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
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Daboll Hill and Waddle and they'd be so explosive.

Instead both their top receivers are either injured all the time or dropping passes.



It helps to have a QB who is quick, decisive, deadly accurate in short and med area, which Tua does much better than Jones.




8:40 and it’s a Daniel Jones thread.

Dude, let go of the hate, it’s unhealthy.



Relentless


LOL - decisive and deadly accurate = 8-14, 110 yds, 1 INT,
Massive double-standard, just so predictable
What was up with  
Br00klyn : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
Tua's fingers after that hit? that cant be good
Never seen a qb  
thrunthrublue : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
Hands spasm like that…..yikes!!!!!
Ooof  
djm : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
This is bad
He hit his shoulder  
section125 : 9/29/2022 9:26 pm : link
back area, not his head.
Pinched a nerve? Obviously neurological issue with the hand "cramping".
Tua is on a rookie deal  
Atari2600 : 9/29/2022 9:27 pm : link
So are other said quarterbacks. It makes sense to see what you have with additions to the roster of high prices free agent talent.

If you think the skill positions stink now just imagine what it would be like when you have to extend Jones for millions with no cap space for much else.

And doesn’t rule out the fact that Jones might not be as good as Tua or other QBs even with better support. Really extending Jones sounds like it would be a disaster.
I'm guessing a concussion from the bang into the ground  
PatersonPlank : 9/29/2022 9:27 pm : link
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if it's concussion it's multiple weeks out bc of last week.`.  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:28 pm : link
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Tua probably shouldn’t have been playing in  
Strahan91 : 9/29/2022 9:28 pm : link
this game to begin with. He was clearly concussed last week and then a short turnaround ahead of a Thurs night game
RE: Ummm either Tua's finger  
jvm52106 : 9/29/2022 9:29 pm : link
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Is fucked up or he was concussed (again)..


NFL better pray that nothing comes out about last week as he looks out (like boxer or mma out) and that would be two weeks in a row where he had a "questionable" injury..

Bridgewater coming in and Thompson the rookie is active..
RE: I'm guessing a concussion from the bang into the ground  
section125 : 9/29/2022 9:29 pm : link
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I would say so. That shoulder and back slammed and the head did follow but not as hard. That was/is effin scary.
RE: Did he just have a  
montanagiant : 9/29/2022 9:29 pm : link
In comment 15838278 bubba0825 said:
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Seizure On the field?

Yeah, it's like an epileptic fit. Which is most common after multiple concussions. Which means he most likely had one last week and Miami knew it but ignored the issue
Dolphins trainers  
bubba0825 : 9/29/2022 9:30 pm : link
Really did a bang up job letting him come back last week and play tonight. Maybe they can tamper again and get Aaron Rodgers in the off season. Scum bags
Cincy fans chant Tua  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:31 pm : link
pretty classy.
Yeah  
SomeFan : 9/29/2022 9:32 pm : link
That hand stuff is a sign of brain trauma
I’m assuming mike McDaniel never played  
Atari2600 : 9/29/2022 9:32 pm : link
Are there any other coaches who never played?
Wow,  
Shady Lurker : 9/29/2022 9:32 pm : link
that looks really bad. Hopefully not life changing for him
RE: Dolphins trainers  
SomeFan : 9/29/2022 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15838294 bubba0825 said:
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Really did a bang up job letting him come back last week and play tonight. Maybe they can tamper again and get Aaron Rodgers in the off season. Scum bags
yes, if this is serious, that entire management needs to be called to the carpet.
All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Sean : 9/29/2022 9:35 pm : link
And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.
but don't independent docs...  
BillKo : 9/29/2022 9:36 pm : link
...determine if you are ok to play? At least I thought they had a part in it.

Hard to believe Miami would err that badly.
Burrow takes a long time in the pocket  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:36 pm : link
but he gets results. nice play on both ends.
RE: but don't independent docs...  
Scooter185 : 9/29/2022 9:37 pm : link
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...determine if you are ok to play? At least I thought they had a part in it.

Hard to believe Miami would err that badly.


Yes, we went over this last year with Jones. Player has to be cleared by an independent neurologist
Michaels said Miami activated the third QB  
shyster : 9/29/2022 9:37 pm : link
because they knew Tua was at risk.

Trainers/medical staff don't make the decision to put him out there.
RE: RE: Dolphins trainers  
section125 : 9/29/2022 9:37 pm : link
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Really did a bang up job letting him come back last week and play tonight. Maybe they can tamper again and get Aaron Rodgers in the off season. Scum bags

yes, if this is serious, that entire management needs to be called to the carpet.


Didn't NFLPA file a complaint?
In the meantime  
RCPhoenix : 9/29/2022 9:38 pm : link
Great throw by Burrow there - really nice touch
Bad advert for promoting youth football  
thrunthrublue : 9/29/2022 9:39 pm : link
With their starting qb showing the signs of a concussion last week, now in front of a national audience, he suffers a spasticity seizure……i guess its all in paying the price, working for these 32 billion dollar franchises……
Tua was allowed to come back into the game last week  
shyster : 9/29/2022 9:39 pm : link
Dolphins never admitted the concussion.
RE: Michaels said Miami activated the third QB  
UConn4523 : 9/29/2022 9:40 pm : link
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because they knew Tua was at risk.

Trainers/medical staff don't make the decision to put him out there.


Yes they do they just can’t do it unless cleared by a 3rd party (if it’s concussion related). It was a back injury anyway.
Higgins out there doing what we pay Golladay to do  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/29/2022 9:40 pm : link
At a fraction of the price. DG
RE: Tua was allowed to come back into the game last week  
BillKo : 9/29/2022 9:40 pm : link
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Dolphins never admitted the concussion.


Again, it's not the Dolphins, right?

An independent doctor would have allowed him back in.
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bubba0825 : 9/29/2022 9:40 pm : link
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...determine if you are ok to play? At least I thought they had a part in it.

Hard to believe Miami would err that badly.



Yes, we went over this last year with Jones. Player has to be cleared by an independent neurologist


What if they frame it from the start as a back/ankle injury?
RE: RE: Michaels said Miami activated the third QB  
RCPhoenix : 9/29/2022 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15838313 UConn4523 said:
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because they knew Tua was at risk.

Trainers/medical staff don't make the decision to put him out there.



Yes they do they just can’t do it unless cleared by a 3rd party (if it’s concussion related). It was a back injury anyway.


It’s certainly plausible that he stumbled b/c of his back last week, but whenever someone stumbles people think it’s a concussion.

In any event he had head & neck injuries this time
RE: Higgins out there doing what we pay Golladay to do  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:44 pm : link
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At a fraction of the price. DG


Indeed. Higgins looked exactly like Golladay when he was going well in Detroit. It was the first thing I thought, big size downfield threat, contested catch guy.
RE: RE: Tua was allowed to come back into the game last week  
shyster : 9/29/2022 9:44 pm : link
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Dolphins never admitted the concussion.



Again, it's not the Dolphins, right?

An independent doctor would have allowed him back in.


The Dolphins saw him staggering on the field like everybody else.

And the Dolphins put him back out there.

That much we know. The details of how it was handled may come out in the NFLPA complaint.
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BillKo : 9/29/2022 9:46 pm : link
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Dolphins never admitted the concussion.



Again, it's not the Dolphins, right?

An independent doctor would have allowed him back in.



The Dolphins saw him staggering on the field like everybody else.

And the Dolphins put him back out there.

That much we know. The details of how it was handled may come out in the NFLPA complaint.


Right.

Common sense would say the independent doctor would have gotten involved immediately, but who knows?

Detail is in the complaint.
bridgewater is a nice backup to have  
Producer : 9/29/2022 9:48 pm : link
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RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 9:49 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.


If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.
I am amazed at how much  
section125 : 9/29/2022 9:50 pm : link
time Miami's QB get back there. Beautiful pocket that oline gives them.
Scary Injury  
ZogZerg : 9/29/2022 9:50 pm : link
Hope Tua is OK
RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Sean : 9/29/2022 9:54 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.

True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?
RE: I am amazed at how much  
Ron Johnson : 9/29/2022 9:56 pm : link
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time Miami's QB get back there. Beautiful pocket that oline gives them.


I noticed that too. Almost forgot what it’s supposed to look like.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tua was allowed to come back into the game last week  
JoeFootball : 9/29/2022 9:57 pm : link
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The independent neurologist cleared him last week, was he wrong? Who knows but it's not the dirty Dolphins hiding concussions.

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Dolphins never admitted the concussion.



Again, it's not the Dolphins, right?

An independent doctor would have allowed him back in.



The Dolphins saw him staggering on the field like everybody else.

And the Dolphins put him back out there.

That much we know. The details of how it was handled may come out in the NFLPA complaint.



Right.

Common sense would say the independent doctor would have gotten involved immediately, but who knows?

Detail is in the complaint.
RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
joeinpa : 9/29/2022 9:59 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?


Being honest Sean. If I m the coach, and the medical people tell me he s ok, I play him. My job is to run the team and win, not make decisions that are not in my lane

I don’t think it s fair to blame it he HC here. Just my opinion
RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
section125 : 9/29/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15838344 Sean said:
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?


He is either cleared or he is not cleared. There is no hedging. If the MD says he is good to go, he is good to go. That is why the league went to independent MDs. We know there were teams that fudged reports. The NFL was sued. The clearance is solely in the hands of and outside source.

It is a violent sport. I find it hard to believe that virtually every player doesn't get a concussion every game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Producer : 9/29/2022 10:03 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?



Being honest Sean. If I m the coach, and the medical people tell me he s ok, I play him. My job is to run the team and win, not make decisions that are not in my lane

I don’t think it s fair to blame it he HC here. Just my opinion


Coach is not to blame at all unless the player or someone knowledgeable says to the coach that the doctor is wrong for some reason. Otherwise, he is not qualified to make medical judgements.
RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Scooter185 : 9/29/2022 10:04 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?


HCs rely on the docs to give them the thumbs up or down. If they give a player the good to go, the HC isn't going to say no.
RE: RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Producer : 9/29/2022 10:04 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?



He is either cleared or he is not cleared. There is no hedging. If the MD says he is good to go, he is good to go. That is why the league went to independent MDs. We know there were teams that fudged reports. The NFL was sued. The clearance is solely in the hands of and outside source.

It is a violent sport. I find it hard to believe that virtually every player doesn't get a concussion every game.


Junior Seau said he had a headache for 15 straight years. He thought he was in a constant concussed state.
Evaluation of concussion is never precise  
shyster : 9/29/2022 10:08 pm : link
because it depends on information coming from the patient.

And it's often a patient who wants to play.

When a player shows objective signs of brain trauma, as Tua did, those signs should be given more weight than they were evidently given in this case.

I'd be pretty sure that is basis of NFLPA complaint.
RE: RE: RE: RE: All that love for Mike McDaniel  
Sean : 9/29/2022 10:31 pm : link
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And now he makes the enormous error to play Tua on a short week. Awful.



If a player is cleared by the medical staff, how is that on the coach.


True. Although on a short week is it worth risking it regardless of what the medical staff says?



Being honest Sean. If I m the coach, and the medical people tell me he s ok, I play him. My job is to run the team and win, not make decisions that are not in my lane

I don’t think it s fair to blame it he HC here. Just my opinion

You’re right. I’ve heard both Joe Judge and Brian Daboll say in press conferences that part of a coaches job is to protect a player from himself when he’s hurt. That’s why my first thought went there, but if he’s cleared he’s cleared.
I know they didn’t put THAT DUDE one on one with Jamarr Chase  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/29/2022 11:08 pm : link
at the end of the game.
RE: Burrow takes a long time in the pocket  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 12:51 am : link
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but he gets results. nice play on both ends.


It sure helps the QB when he has good skill position players on offense….
I like Burrow. He clearly sees the field and doesn't panic  
NYGgolfer : 9/30/2022 5:58 am : link
in situations, and still makes plays and produces points. Sometimes turning what looks like a negative play into a positive one.

Yes he has some talented targets, but I would imagine he does fairly well with even a lesser set of pieces around him.

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