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Tua injury tonite is bad—head and neck injuries

NJBlueTuna : 9/29/2022 9:45 pm
He got absolutely crushed on a sack and was disturbing to see his arms and fingers go rigid and contort right after the hit while he was on his back. Was disturbing to see. Team announced he sustained Neck and head injuries as he was brought out motionless on a stretcher and sent to a level 1 trauma center.

Prayers he’s ok.

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Danny Kanell : 9/29/2022 9:47 pm : link
Everything about it looked absolutely brutal.
He was clearly concussed on Sunday  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/29/2022 9:49 pm : link
Heads should roll. This looks bad for Tuas season and career
RE: He was clearly concussed on Sunday  
nygiants16 : 9/29/2022 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15838335 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Heads should roll. This looks bad for Tuas season and career


Isnt an independent evaluator that has to clear him? so i dont think you can blame the dolphins
Anyone remember TE Donald Parnham's  
jvm52106 : 9/29/2022 9:52 pm : link
Concussion last year? Very similar situation. That might have been a Thursday game as well
RE: He was clearly concussed on Sunday  
NJBlueTuna : 9/29/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15838335 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Heads should roll. This looks bad for Tuas season and career


Heard the arms and fingers going rigid and contorting is a sign of neurological damage. Just hoping the guy is ok, career is secondary based upon how bad it looked.
RE: Anyone remember TE Donald Parnham's  
BillKo : 9/29/2022 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15838341 jvm52106 said:
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Concussion last year? Very similar situation. That might have been a Thursday game as well


I do remember that....whatever happened to him?
Ooof  
exiled : 9/29/2022 9:57 pm : link
That was awful
If his concussion was so obvious  
UConn4523 : 9/29/2022 9:59 pm : link
surely an actual doctor would have noticed, no? Hiding it is a lose lose for the dolphins, if it’s even possible.
Horrendous look for the league  
ghost718 : 9/29/2022 10:07 pm : link
I've never seen anything like that,and a doctor can't figure out something is wrong?

Miami should be in deep shit
RE: If his concussion was so obvious  
Jay on the Island : 9/29/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15838354 UConn4523 said:
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surely an actual doctor would have noticed, no? Hiding it is a lose lose for the dolphins, if it’s even possible.

Miami is a stand up organization, besides getting caught openly tampering with Tom Brady and Sean Payton. I wouldn't put anything past them.
RE: RE: Anyone remember TE Donald Parnham's  
jvm52106 : 9/29/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15838343 BillKo said:
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In comment 15838341 jvm52106 said:


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Concussion last year? Very similar situation. That might have been a Thursday game as well



I do remember that....whatever happened to him?


He's back and was back last year. The reaction he had to his concussion was very similar.
He has movement in all extremeties...  
Capt. Don : 9/29/2022 10:16 pm : link
still a lot of concern but that is a piece of good news.
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christian : 9/29/2022 10:17 pm : link
Wow. That's a fencing response. You usually see that when someone gets knocked out by a kick to the head in martial arts.

A concussion occurs when your brain bounces around in your skull. Your arms flip out like that when your brain stem is banged around.
That was gruesome.  
trueblueinpw : 9/29/2022 10:28 pm : link
This is a seriously fucked game we all watch. Holy smokes that was bad. The Dolphins tweeted that he has movement in all his extremities so that’s good news.
RE: That was gruesome.  
jvm52106 : 9/29/2022 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15838388 trueblueinpw said:
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This is a seriously fucked game we all watch. Holy smokes that was bad. The Dolphins tweeted that he has movement in all his extremities so that’s good news.


I have seen that in mma and boxing a number of times. While you do not want to see something like that ever it clearly was the impact to the neck and head. The only really questionable part is did he have a concussion the week before.
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christian : 9/29/2022 10:49 pm : link
You see it in combat sports, and also weirdly in soccer. Sports where people aren't wearing helmets. The NFL needs to address the helmet issue.
RE: If his concussion was so obvious  
bwitz : 9/29/2022 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15838354 UConn4523 said:
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surely an actual doctor would have noticed, no? Hiding it is a lose lose for the dolphins, if it’s even possible.


He was medically cleared last week by an independent doctor from what I’ve read. I’ll wait for actual facts to come out.

Watching the overreaction theater and layman internet diagnosis with what is usually comical minimum knowledge is fun to eat popcorn to though.
Awful  
DavidinBMNY : 9/29/2022 10:54 pm : link
That was very concerning. Prayers for Tua. T
RE: RE: If his concussion was so obvious  
santacruzom : 9/29/2022 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15838423 bwitz said:
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In comment 15838354 UConn4523 said:


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surely an actual doctor would have noticed, no? Hiding it is a lose lose for the dolphins, if it’s even possible.



He was medically cleared last week by an independent doctor from what I’ve read. I’ll wait for actual facts to come out.

Watching the overreaction theater and layman internet diagnosis with what is usually comical minimum knowledge is fun to eat popcorn to though.


McDaniel does not strike me as the sort of macho dipshit who'd encourage or even just allow a knowingly concussed player to take the field.
RE: Awful  
Del Shofner : 9/29/2022 11:07 pm : link
In comment 15838424 DavidinBMNY said:
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That was very concerning. Prayers for Tua. T


Yikes. Best wishes. Take a break. Health comes first.
Ryan Fitzpatrick and Richard Sherman  
Producer : 9/29/2022 11:32 pm : link
leading the revolt in the postgame.
 
Man In The Box : 9/29/2022 11:35 pm : link
Absolutely love the needless speculation and finger pointing before all the facts are known 🙄
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broadbandz : 9/29/2022 11:57 pm : link
Any time you see a boxer die in the ring its usually always them falling back like that on the back of their head.
In regards to McDaniel  
moespree : 9/30/2022 12:07 am : link
He's not a doctor or medical expert. I do agree that at a point some common sense should come into play whether or not you should be playing one of your players. I do agree with that.

But the team doctors as well as the NFL doctor cleared him to play. Told McDaniel he passed the concussion protocol and is fine to play.

So I don't know what else one can expect from him. I suspect strongly that most (if not all) coaches would have played him too if their team doctors and NFL doctor cleared him.
He was cleared by a neurologist.  
Giant John : 9/30/2022 5:57 am : link
A doctor that specializes in brain function or at least the team said that. I have a feeling he will be sitting out a few games after this event. He should also get himself independently examined before he plays again.
Scary stuff. He was whipped around like a rag doll even  
NYGgolfer : 9/30/2022 6:01 am : link
before hitting the turf and banging the back of his helmet.

Hopefully this is only a concussion (bad enough) and nothing more complicated.

I didn't see it, but I hope our ol players did  
Ira : 9/30/2022 6:17 am : link
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That was horrible, his hands went Emily Rose after the hit  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/30/2022 6:58 am : link
I am all too familiar with concussions, he is going to have problems neurologically from this, je wad comcissed on sunday imo and should not have played last night.
Tua  
Hilary : 9/30/2022 7:07 am : link
Tua was cleared to return to play by an idiot. He/She may be a neurologist but still an idiot .People with a back injury do not wobble the way that Tua did in the game against the Pats. A second concussion before a person has healed from a previous concussion is called second hit syndrome and it can lead to permanent injury.
Medicine is all about risk vs benefit and the doctor should have
protected Tua.
second impact syndrome - ( New Window )
Hilary,  
Giant John : 9/30/2022 7:48 am : link
Just curious, are you a doctors? Are you medically qualified to say what you said?
This is taken out of the Dolphins hands  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/30/2022 7:54 am : link
for these type of injuries. I think you can hold the Dolphins/CS accountable is if they saw any signs in Tua after the Sunday's injury that showed Tua to be a little off whether in meetings and/or practice leading up to last nights game. The investigation may reveal more details.

I think the league should consider looking into players being available for a Thursday game if they went under the protocol test that previous Sunday with such a short turnaround time.

Hope it turns out the best for Tua.
RE: Tua  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/30/2022 8:27 am : link
In comment 15838494 Hilary said:
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Tua was cleared to return to play by an idiot. He/She may be a neurologist but still an idiot .People with a back injury do not wobble the way that Tua did in the game against the Pats. A second concussion before a person has healed from a previous concussion is called second hit syndrome and it can lead to permanent injury.
Medicine is all about risk vs benefit and the doctor should have
protected Tua. second impact syndrome - ( New Window )


What a foolish post. Are you a doctor? Did you examine him? How are you in any position to call a medical professional an "idiot"? You have no information to make that determination even if you had the medical training.

It's amazing how not knowing what the fuck they are talking about never seems to stop people from opening their pie holes.
This injury reminded me of  
cjac : 9/30/2022 9:03 am : link
the Donald Parham injury, who also hit the back of his head on he turf.
Hilary  
arniefez : 9/30/2022 12:17 pm : link
I agree with you 100%. Except for the idiot part. I think he was cleared by a doctor or doctors who know if they don't clear him they won't be part of the NFL doctor crew much longer.

Imagine the ego gratification and financial rewards of a doctor who works for the NFL.

Who the hell would know who Russell Warren is if he wasn't around the Giants for the past 30 years? There are huge financial and career rewards at stake for many people by keeping players on the field. Starting with the doctors who are baked into the NFL culture. GMs, coaches and players come and go. Owners do not change nearly as often.

see  
David B. : 9/30/2022 7:17 pm : link
this
Tua Tagovailoa Stretchered Off After SEVERE Head Injury - Doctor Explains - ( New Window )
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