Nick Gates to be activated from PUP next week

good for him

But I’m sure it will take him a while before he’s ready to see live action.

they could use him at C, and both guard spots

resolve is unbelievable. I assume his return is why they haven't filled their open roster spot.

Big props to him for what he went through to get back on the field.

Maybe Daboll can lock Gates up with Toney for a few hours and have some of that fire and fierceness rub off on him.

Yay Nick!

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What a warrior!!!

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..."what's wrong?"'s ever from my wife, and she's seen me after plenty of losses.

As some (in)famous people said, "Nick Gates vs. the World".

man do we need him.

..a Thursday night game and all my friends from around the country had seen it live.

In comment 15839122 Ivan15 said:

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Per the below article from the Athletic (ungated):
The player has to remain on the reserve/PUP list for at least the first four regular season games (Oct. 3 or 4 this season), which is new this season.

Once a player leaves the reserve/PUP list, he has up to 21 days to return to the 53-man roster. He can practice with the team until he’s taken off the list. If the player still isn’t able to play in games after the 21-day span, he’ll stay on the reserve/PUP list for the rest of the season.
The Athletic PUP FAQ - ( New Window )

That's fantastic. Never expected him back this soon.

or just IR him in 3 weeks after getting enough of a cameo to think he can be OC next yr?

be a boost. Gates to C and Feliciano to guard?

Def a favorite of mine. Very happy he is able to resume his career.

that would be a miracle. rooting for him.

Don’t rush back. Get the rust off make sure the leg is sound.

Awesome news. Easy guy to root for.

And not too long ago he was pretty clearly the second best OL on the roster.

Obviously we’ll have to tamper expectations after the injury, but there’s at least a non zero chance that he could get back to that form at some point

It would be a huge addition on the interior Oline.

So happy for him. He is a great story and I am so pleased its not over yet. You need these types on great teams.

Hopefully he can make it all the back. It would be a huge boost.

There is zero reason to rush him back. He wouldn't be returning this quickly unless he's ready to roll.

But that was a devastating injury requiring multiple surgeries. If I remember correctly, it took Rich Seubert a couple of seasons to come back from a similar injury

If he can take over as starting center it will improve the line big time. He a couple of levels better than Feliciano. Next Lemieux. This OL still has a chance to be a decent unit.

He's a fan favorite for a reason. I just hope he isn't rushed back and he transitions back slowly. He'd be a big boost. What a loss he was last season. Eff Joe Judge for playing him at Guard.

In comment 15839177 Beer Man said:

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But that was a devastating injury requiring multiple surgeries. If I remember correctly, it took Rich Seubert a couple of seasons to come back from a similar injury

All the way back yes. He started as a BTE/6thOL. "number 69 is eligible."

This is really good news. Hopefully he can get his legs under him and get back in contention for a starting spot.

like very good news for the 2nd half of the season.

but the pessimistic side of me asks the question is if there is anything different from a pension standpoing between PUP and IR. (IR accrues seasons but PUP doesn't)?

Seems like somewhat of a rush...

In comment 15839205 SLIM_ said:

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but the pessimistic side of me asks the question is if there is anything different from a pension standpoing between PUP and IR. (IR accrues seasons but PUP doesn't)? Seems like somewhat of a rush...

In your expert medical opinion?

They would only activate him if he was ready to contribute in 3 weeks. It will be a process but I can easily see him taking over for Feliciano sometime this year.

As a person but from a football perspective he hasn't played for a year. Wis it realistic to expect much of a contribution before mid to late November?

For him personally most of all, it's got to have been an arduous path for sure and this has been the goal that's been driving him.

But great for the Giants too of course. He was our best OL at the beginning of last year, before Judge moved him to a position he never played in the pros OR college.

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an early training camp interview, saying that Gates' return was a possibility, maybe sooner than some might think. I didn't think this soon! You know Daboll would love to infuse some Nick Gates into this team.

it back on the field before Toney does.

A guy you root for and a guy you don't.

UFA?

Talk about tough!

Maybe put his locker next to Toney and some toughness will rub off.

In comment 15839258 Metnut said:

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UFA?

From Eric's roster page it looks like he's under contract through next year.

DO NOT come back until you’re 100% mind and body ready man you will be a site for sore eyes. But…
Make you you ready.

After one of the most horrific injuries I've ever seen. Can we expect to see him play this year ??

Nick Gates is a stud - Was on his way to becoming a Pro Bowl CENTER before he he inexplicably got shifted to guard. There's a lot of bad things that happened because of this, the worst was the effect it had on Will Hernandez. Will went from being a dominant presence to looking lost and helpless.

Remember how Gates stood up to ALL-WORLD DT Aaron Donald ? Here's Bobby Skinner on Twitter (in 2020), showing us how much of a butt kicker Gates is ....

https://twitter.com/bobbyskinner_/status/1333779659016732673

Gates coming back healthy and returning to form at center would be a huge shot in the arm for the Giants.

In comment 15839303 Manny in CA said:

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After one of the most horrific injuries I've ever seen. Can we expect to see him play this year ?? Nick Gates is a stud - Was on his way to becoming a Pro Bowl CENTER before he he inexplicably got shifted to guard. There's a lot of bad things that happened because of this, the worst was the effect it had on Will Hernandez. Will went from being a dominant presence to looking lost and helpless. Remember how Gates stood up to ALL-WORLD DT Aaron Donald ? Here's Bobby Skinner on Twitter (in 2020), showing us how much of a butt kicker Gates is .... https://twitter.com/bobbyskinner_/status/1333779659016732673

The decline of Will Hernandez was in full effect well before Gates went from Center to Guard. Your comments do not hold water.

Gates being injured like he did is more because the NYG had no idea what thye were doing with personnel all over the OL. Don't blame the coaches that were trying to make something out of nothing.

And by the way, Gates is nothing special. The Giants need to stop screwing around at Center and treat it like an actual position that needs experience and quality.

In comment 15839150 Eric on Li said:

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that would be a miracle. rooting for him.

I mean we are overdue for some luck right? I really hope that Nick Gates has a Rich Seubert level recovery and returns to being a good starter for the Giants. I still don' think that he will contribute much if any this season but if he can build up his strength he might be able to compete for a starting spot next offseason.

Jay, you're damn right: we're due for some luck.

It sucks because Gates looked like a real find & then he gets injured. UFB.

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Lout a few things
1. By seasons end 2020, Gates was grading out as one of the leagues better centers. There was talk of him getting some pro bowl votes in 2021
2. More importantly, the Bill’s center is a tackle convert and Daboll has said he likes them for the position. Gates will be the center, when he’s ready, very possibly for post bye.

he was named a team captain last year for a reason.

There were many times when he earned excellent PFF scores. When he moved over to RG, it looked like he had finally found his "home". I recall one of the last games that he & Gates (at center) played against Dallas - how they together dominated the interior ....

How the Cowboys crushed our offensive line this past Sunday, reminded me how the Old Guard has exacerbated the misery with a multitude of self inflicted wounds - that still reverberates today.

That's my advice.

I'm not a doctor and I have no access to his medical files.

Nor am I a coach who has actually seen Gates work out.

I'm just long-time Giants fan who feels compelled to share my opinion, based on absolutely no information at all.

So again, I implore the Giants' medical staff and coaches to heed my advice....

Don't rush Gates back!!

That would be Awesome! I did not expect him back.

Great if he makes it back.

Could he make a Seubert return? We could use the old Gates at Center. I assume he has a rod in his leg?! That's git to be tough to play with if so.

before Lemieux?

Nov 1, which would put both on the same timetable. The OL might be a lot different second half, especially if Neal starts to “get it “ as Thomas did about half way through his rookie season.

Just wow

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before Lemieux?

He was injured way before Lemieux.

75% of Gates is better than anything we have a C or OG right now.

In comment 15839324 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Jay, you're damn right: we're due for some luck. It sucks because Gates looked like a real find & then he gets injured. UFB.

Gates was our best offensive lineman when he got hurt. Obviously Thomas would have surpassed him for that title but Gates would have solidified the middle of the line if he was never injured. Plus his contract was well below market value which added more value.

Must be activated to 53, IRd or released by the end of that time. Hoping for the best.

Glad to see he is possibly returning soon. And yes putting him at guard when he was doing well at center was stupid by the former regime.

For Gates and the Team. Just please don’t rush him back. Hope all goes well and he returns to his old self. He was definitely on the right track before being injured.

In comment 15839361 Jim in Tampa said:

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That's my advice. I'm not a doctor and I have no access to his medical files. Nor am I a coach who has actually seen Gates work out. I'm just long-time Giants fan who feels compelled to share my opinion, based on absolutely no information at all. So again, I implore the Giants' medical staff and coaches to heed my advice.... Don't rush Gates back!!

Funny. Well done.

In comment 15839339 Ten Ton Hammer said
Same here, TTH. In better circumstances, bet he would be given all most of this season to rehab, regain strength, regain mobility.

As fantastic news as it is for Nick Gates, I'm afraid it also may well show how desperate the situation is on the interior of our OL.

He would be a huge upgrade over Feliciano at Center.

But, how long before he is ready .... a month? 6 weeks?

I’m really happy for him. I didn’t hold out much hope that he would be able to play again, and it’s a testament to his hard work that he’s made it back this far this quickly. Well done Nick!

....version 2.0.

Hope he can do it.

The guy is a beast and plays with a lot of heart. everybody is pulling for him. just look at all of these comments here on BBI.

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So am I, didn't think he could make it back this season.
I wouldn't rush him onto the playing field, until he is ready.

In comment 15839267 kelly said:

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Talk about tough! Maybe put his locker next to Toney and some toughness will rub off.

Wouldn't be surprised if Gates played in a game before Toney.

They were under NO urgency to take him off PUP. Once they do, they have 21 days to either IR him or activate him to play. CLEARLY, the doctors (and Nick), think he's ready to get back at it. Now, once he's activated (around Thanksgiving), I HIGHLY doubt he goes back to starting. He has to learn how this line blocks, etc. But I can Easily see him regaining his former starting spot before the end of the season. Feliciano is not on his level as a center. Not to mention, Gates' toughness, and the respect he commands from the other players ( I saw this firsthand during camp), will positively rub off on the other players- Neal in particular).
I can see this OL making great strides by the second half.
AND I'm not being a polyanna. The talent is there to make it very possible.

Pre-injury. He would easily be above Feliciano to me if he can return to form. Feliciano simply isn't an NFL starter.

In comment 15839944 Dave on the UWS said:

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They were under NO urgency to take him off PUP. Once they do, they have 21 days to either IR him or activate him to play. CLEARLY, the doctors (and Nick), think he's ready to get back at it. Now, once he's activated (around Thanksgiving), I HIGHLY doubt he goes back to starting. He has to learn how this line blocks, etc. But I can Easily see him regaining his former starting spot before the end of the season. Feliciano is not on his level as a center. Not to mention, Gates' toughness, and the respect he commands from the other players ( I saw this firsthand during camp), will positively rub off on the other players- Neal in particular). I can see this OL making great strides by the second half. AND I'm not being a polyanna. The talent is there to make it very possible.

He has 21 days to be on the roster which is a month before T'giving - it is Oct 21st

leaves OG as the last gaping hole
maybe ezueda or SL can be a solution GLOW looked like crap last week