There are some interesting changes to the order today. Alonso is batting second for instance and Canha's hitting cleanup. Buck's got Alvarez hitting 7th and Nido is catching and batting 9th (as he normally would).
Starting Lineups - September 30th, 2022 - Mets at Braves
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Mets at Braves Starting Pitcher Matchup
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Here are a couple of articles to check out before the game:
Series Preview article from Metsmerized.com
Here we go: Mets, Braves face off for all the marbles - amazinavenue.com
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The Mets have a 1 game lead, which is enormous right now. Everything they needed to go right for them did on Wednesday regarding their dramatic win against the Marlins, thank to Mr. Escobar, and thanks to the Nats winning in extra innings against the Braves. Here are the scenarios the Mets need to win the division going into the start of this critical series:
-1 win gives the Mets the tiebreaker; so if the Mets then go on and sweep the Nats for the last series of the regular season, they win the division.
-2 wins means only 1 win is needed against the Nats after this series in order to win the N.L. East.
-A three game sweep in Atlanta would win the division.
-If the Mets get swept by the Braves in Atlanta, then they would need help from the Marlins against the Braves in Miami to win the division.
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Thanks Pete. Northeast weather does not agree with me. I prefer the desert. Wednesday night was something else. I was out with a friend and must have caught something. I'll gladly take one for the team if they keep winning, lol. 2 out of 3 would be fantastic, but 1 of 3 gets the Mets out of this series with control of their own destiny w/regards to winning the division. Imagine if they win all three and clinch it in Atlanta? Haha! I just wish the Mets had Marte :-(
Or is something up with Bassitt.
Or is something up with Bassitt.
I think cuz if they need one of the big three to pitch on the last day of the season, that pitcher would be available. deGrom is going on six days rest today and so will Scherzer tomorrow. Bassitt will be pitching on 9 days of rest on Sunday, if I'm not mistaken.
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Our last rookie to debut against the Braves (Batu) did well hitting one out in big win---the only one they won in Atlanta when they played there last.
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Mets @ Braves - 9/30/22 - 7:30 pm EST start from Atlanta - TV: SNY Feed - onrub - ( New Window )
Excited to see Alvarez hit tonight!
Excited to see Alvarez hit tonight!
It's definitely been spoken about at length.
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Has been talked about, is that Mets lose the tiebreaker vs Braves of they are swept. Obviously, if that happens, it doesn't much matter bc in that case, the Braves magic number going into the last series of the season would be 1.
Excited to see Alvarez hit tonight!
It's definitely been spoken about at length.
Ok, I hadn't remembered.
Great start for Jake, is it me, or does the slider look sharper than it has in his last 2 or 3 starts?
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Has been talked about, is that Mets lose the tiebreaker vs Braves of they are swept. Obviously, if that happens, it doesn't much matter bc in that case, the Braves magic number going into the last series of the season would be 1.
Excited to see Alvarez hit tonight!
It's definitely been spoken about at length.
Ok, I hadn't remembered.
Great start for Jake, is it me, or does the slider look sharper than it has in his last 2 or 3 starts?
I also prefer to see Nido behind the plate now instead of McCann. Nido does a better job with pitches down in the dirt than McCan't can. Mets are up 9-7 in the season series on the Braves going into tonight. One win is good enough to escape from this series: the Mets will have won the season-series if they do and will still be in first place, although tied. The tie-breaker though would them the edge (10-9) going into the last three games at home against the Turrible Nats.
Hopefully the Mets make that a moot point and take two out of three. The only unacceptable result for this series is if the Mets get swept. I'd rather be the Mets now than I would the Braves at this point. The Mets have their Big 3 going in this series and have Bog Jake available for the final game at Citi Field against the Nats if they need to win it.
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Pretty sure they play all nine innings and whichever team has more runs THEN it the winner
Fascinating...
Lmao come on
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Way to show up in a big game, Ace.
Lmao come on
Relax - it’s okay to be disappointed that our Ace pitcher gives up back to back HRs is one of the biggest games of the year.
Sure it’s ok to be disappointed.
It’s also ok if you want to say things that make you look like a fool or a troll or both.
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Way to show up in a big game, Ace.
Sure it’s ok to be disappointed.
It’s also ok if you want to say things that make you look like a fool or a troll or both.
Good lord, it’s like some of you take this stuff personally.
You okay bro? Need someone to talk to? Or maybe just fuck off? K?
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Way to show up in a big game, Ace.
Lmao come on
Relax - it’s okay to be disappointed that our Ace pitcher gives up back to back HRs is one of the biggest games of the year.
If you have to justify it, it's probably because you realize the poor take.
Say what you want but don't expect someone's not gonna find it ridiculous.
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Way to show up in a big game, Ace.
Lmao come on
Relax - it’s okay to be disappointed that our Ace pitcher gives up back to back HRs is one of the biggest games of the year.
If you have to justify it, it's probably because you realize the poor take.
Say what you want but don't expect someone's not gonna find it ridiculous.
God forbid anyone is critical of deGrom. Jesus. You guys need to get a grip.
Don't get bent out of shape because it was silly.
Looking forward to him and Baty joining the big club at some point next year or in 2024.
Don't get bent out of shape because it was silly.
Giving up back to back HRs in the second inning after a couple of poor starts? Yeah, I think it’s okay to be a bit critical. Sorry it twisted your panties in a bunch.
Can we get back to the game? Or do you want to log these minutes for the next deGrom fan club meeting.
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Looking forward to him and Baty joining the big club at some point next year or in 2024.
Yes, like opening day next year.
He works hard, does his job, and is the 2nd best pitcher to ever put on a Mets uniform.
Never complains, always does the right thing.
Deserves praise always.
Now can the offense get going? Let’s go!
Can't keep a good man down for long.
Now let's get some runs!
Agree. Maybe 2, if he doesn’t throw too many in the 6th
Offense just can't get going yet
Lot of game left! LFGM!
Can they rally vs the Braves bullpen
Mets offense needs to get it done.
Hope they pull this one out tonight...if not tomorrow is pretty critical. Would prefer not going into Sunday with a must win situation
Yes you're missing that they have 3 vs Marlins
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR
3.08 ERA
Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.
No. They have three at the Marlins. Alcantara is pitching on the last day of the season too.
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR
3.08 ERA
Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.
I think he has one more. At least to start the inning
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86 P (58 S)
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR
3.08 ERA
Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.
I think he has one more. At least to start the inning
Issue is they want him ready for the last game of the season if necessary
It’s amazing how much trouble they’ve had in ATL. Both stadiums.
Focus On tomorrow, get a win and take the pressure off
This offense has stunk for two months. Absurd
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Mets have 3 against the Nationals, and Braves only have 2 at the Marlins. By my count that puts the Braves at 161 games. Am I missing something?
No. They have three at the Marlins. Alcantara is pitching on the last day of the season too.
Should have looked at another site. The one I looked at had 2 games. Weird
Sandy dumbass can't leave this team soon enough. He's been with the Mets for a decade and can't ever build a bullpen
weak bottom of the order
thin bp
by no means is the season over because of 1 game but it is a near 2 month trend of the offense not doing what got them to where they are now. they are not working pitchers into high pitch counts. they are not making life difficult.
unless a switch somehow flips on the lineup to not just rely on individual power outbursts from alonso/lindor (and the occasional canha/escobar) it's hard to see this team hitting enough.
where did the team that worked every at bat go?
Jake looked a lot better except a few mistakes that excellent hitters made him pay for. That'd the main positive to take from this game
weak bottom of the order
thin bp
by no means is the season over because of 1 game but it is a near 2 month trend of the offense not doing what got them to where they are now. they are not working pitchers into high pitch counts. they are not making life difficult.
unless a switch somehow flips on the lineup to not just rely on individual power outbursts from alonso/lindor (and the occasional canha/escobar) it's hard to see this team hitting enough.
where did the team that worked every at bat go?
Marte being missing is huge.
But maybe they all get going at the right time??
Jake looked a lot better except a few mistakes that excellent hitters made him pay for. That'd the main positive to take from this game
JDG was fine. The issue continues to be the offense not doing what they did for the first 4 months.
Fried was on 71 pitches in 5ip.
2 days ago Luzardo went through 6 in 95 pitches.
3 days ago Lopez went through 6 in 91.
they just aren't working pitchers the way they were through early August. in fact most of the runs they've scored lately have been from the long ball which is the opposite of the rallies they had earlier in the year where they were stringing together hits (esp 2 out hits).
Marte being missing is huge.
But maybe they all get going at the right time??
I hope so. I don't think it's explainable with Marte. Canha and McNeil are both really good top of the order hitters. It's obviously 1 less good hitter but this was a negative trend dating back before he got hit.
if you think about it in the month or two pre-trade deadline they were scuffling offensively, then the first couple weeks post-deadline it looked like they fixed everything, but then the league i guess adjusted to vogey and ruf because those 2 went over a cliff and the offense has been mostly stagnant since.
all year when the DH's hit they win, when they don't they struggle. amazing that what should be such a simple position to solve has been such a problem.
It'll be the same with Max tomorrow if he gives up three runs in six innings. You make this kind of money to be better than a 4.5 ERA in the biggest game of the year
Three outs left to change that
weird they are going naquin > vogelbach? and no pinch runner. what are they waiting for with Gore?
Nice no show performance from the team tonight
I would have pinch hit Vogelbach for Alvarez earlier.
All tied up. 5 games to go.
I like the Mets but Go Braves...
They will sweep and the Mets will lose 2 out of 3 to the Nat
2nd inning 2 on, none out, 93.5 mph GIDP, but it did have an xba of .400. riley made a good reaction play. if i remember right he swung first pitch.
5th inning, none on, none out, 67 mph ground out. xba .180.
7th inning, man on 2nd, 2 out, 100 mph fly out. it never threatened the outfielder so they were positioned well because it did have an xba of .410, so not quite a can of corn.
9th inning, bases loaded, 1 out, strikeout vs. jansen. that was his worst AB of the game. 3 pitches, lost the bat swinging on strike 3.
overall his average exit velocity in the game was 87mph which isn't notable. it's a pretty similar debut to what we've seen so far from baty/vientos in their first weeks.
after being overly cautious to the border of insanity giving prospects a chance all year it's a little crazy to me that they threw a 20 year old into that spot last night.
i know im a broken record, but even if they didn't call up vientos pre-deadline (which they specifically should have to see what they had before making trades) in august when guillorme/escobar hit the DL and Ruf was doing nothing that was the obvious time to test what they had in both Baty and Vientos instead of the spots they kept wasting on Marrero/Sanchez who never played and had 0 chance of making the postseason roster. the injury obviously impacted things but Alvarez should have come up earlier in september, even if it was just 1 week earlier, when they were facing the last place teams and could have gotten some time as catcher just to get him every day at bats.
they squandered all those chances and instead threw a 20 year old into the biggest game of the year where he faced 4 all star pitchers and unsurprisingly went 0-4, making key outs in 2 rally's with less than 2O. and now i assume he will sit for a week and they will roll some dice to choose which of their RHH rookies to pinch hit against lefties and start against corbin.
they couldn't have managed themselves into a stupider corner then the one they find themselves in now.
How is everyone feeling about the way we end the season?
I am not very confident that they will rebound, I do think Max will bring it tonight like he always does.
I think Buck is in his own head and it's translating to the field with how tight this team seems to be playing.
I thought they turned a corner with the come back win against the Marlins but it seems only Escobar is playing loose right now.
How is everyone feeling about the way we end the season?
I am not very confident that they will rebound, I do think Max will bring it tonight like he always does.
I think Buck is in his own head and it's translating to the field with how tight this team seems to be playing.
I thought they turned a corner with the come back win against the Marlins but it seems only Escobar is playing loose right now.
I don't pin this all on Buck. The offense was spectacular for half a season then became extremely unreliable post ASG break. That's on everyone. There was no reason to be wound up tight in July.
Management was swelled up with pride at the product they had on the field, and instead of being aggressive (or proactive) they played everything safe and bet on DeGrom, Max, and Diaz to put a coat of paint on any weaknesses.
Vogelbach and Naquin were solid adds, Ruf was an absolute catastrophe, and so was addressing the bullpen. Plenty of us said at the time they needed more help.
They might still pull this out, but if they end up getting the Dodgers, all they're going to see is LHP starters and that is playing right into their weakness and the Dodgers' strength.
This loss is really on the players. Jake gave up three HRs and the hitters did nothing. Lindor again coming up small in big game.
You could argue you should have pinch hit Vogy for Alvarez. But I have no problem with him letting the kid hit, especially with the bases loaded. Alvarez drew a lot of walks in the minors and has a good eye.
Vogy should primarily pinch hit when there are two outs because anything on the ground is GIDP. That's what Buck was planning: Vogy for Nido. Unfortunately both Alvarez and Naquin struck out.
i do still question the wisdom of throwing a 20 year old into that spot when Vientos had been showing postive signs in his last few starts.
their general handling of all the kids this year to me is the most annoying they screwed up because it was 100% in their control to not screw it up. should have called up vientos in july, sent down JDD so they had an insurance option in addition to alvarez. also should have had baty in AAA sooner which may have helped him then adjust to MLB sooner when ready.
remember the braves called their guys up straight from AA in June. who knows where their season goes with that.
So question the farm and why they didnt have anyone ready
the braves called their guys up, let them play every day through their early adjustment periods which is the conventional thing to do, and eventually the talent came through. the mets haven't give their guys that chance. vientos is only at 34 plate appearances right now with the 2nd highest walk rate and highest average exit velocity on the team in that small sample.
I completely agree, BTW.