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NFT: Mets @ Braves - Game 1: deGrom vs. Fried

Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 5:56 pm
There are some interesting changes to the order today. Alonso is batting second for instance and Canha's hitting cleanup. Buck's got Alvarez hitting 7th and Nido is catching and batting 9th (as he normally would).


Starting Lineups - September 30th, 2022 - Mets at Braves
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Mets at Braves Starting Pitcher Matchup
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Here are a couple of articles to check out before the game:
Series Preview article from Metsmerized.com
Here we go: Mets, Braves face off for all the marbles - amazinavenue.com
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The Mets have a 1 game lead, which is enormous right now. Everything they needed to go right for them did on Wednesday regarding their dramatic win against the Marlins, thank to Mr. Escobar, and thanks to the Nats winning in extra innings against the Braves. Here are the scenarios the Mets need to win the division going into the start of this critical series:

-1 win gives the Mets the tiebreaker; so if the Mets then go on and sweep the Nats for the last series of the regular season, they win the division.
-2 wins means only 1 win is needed against the Nats after this series in order to win the N.L. East.
-A three game sweep in Atlanta would win the division.
-If the Mets get swept by the Braves in Atlanta, then they would need help from the Marlins against the Braves in Miami to win the division.

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#LFGM!
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I mean yeah...being critical of deGrom is kinda bad  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 8:50 pm : link
No matter what.

He works hard, does his job, and is the 2nd best pitcher to ever put on a Mets uniform.

Never complains, always does the right thing.

Deserves praise always.

But it's ok to say  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 8:51 pm : link
Damn that sucks that he gave up back to back HRs..he's probably pissed!!
Nice to see deGrom get back on track to his dominant self  
CooperDash : 9/30/2022 8:51 pm : link
Hopefully that hearty compliment satisfies the fanboys.

Now can the offense get going? Let’s go!
DeGrom  
allstarjim : 9/30/2022 8:51 pm : link
Has certainly settled down.

Can't keep a good man down for long.

Now let's get some runs!
Jakes in a groove now  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 8:52 pm : link
Top of the lineup. GET SOME FUCKING RUNS NOW!!
deGrom has thrown 72 pitches so far  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 8:52 pm : link
How many innings does he go? 7? My guess is one more inning and that's it for him.
Fried out  
Gmanfandan : 9/30/2022 8:53 pm : link
Looks like he has a tummy ache
Fried out!  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 8:54 pm : link
Wow, that was unexpected
Nice to get the lefty out  
CooperDash : 9/30/2022 8:54 pm : link
Let’s get to work now.
Mets have a window to do some business now against McHugh.  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 8:55 pm : link
Gary said he'd be in there for about two innings.
RE: deGrom has thrown 72 pitches so far  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15839432 Optimus-NY said:
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How many innings does he go? 7? My guess is one more inning and that's it for him.


Agree. Maybe 2, if he doesn’t throw too many in the 6th
I hope Nimmo is a Met forever  
CooperDash : 9/30/2022 8:56 pm : link
❤️
Well that sucked  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 8:59 pm : link
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Ugh  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:00 pm : link
Frustrating game

Offense just can't get going yet

Lot of game left! LFGM!
Ho hum  
CooperDash : 9/30/2022 9:04 pm : link
another home run
Another less than deGrom start from deGrom  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:05 pm : link
Hitters with more crappy at bats

Can they rally vs the Braves bullpen
Dammit!  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:06 pm : link
That might be enough runs for ATL to win tonight.
only 2 run deficit  
Gmanfandan : 9/30/2022 9:07 pm : link
Bats have to get going with McHugh in the game - HR's by Swanson (23), Olson(32) and Riley (39) - all solo shots. Lets get Jake some support.
Max needs to be Max tomorrow  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:07 pm : link
Gotta get one win this weekend.
Looking at the schedule after this series  
KDavies : 9/30/2022 9:07 pm : link
Mets have 3 against the Nationals, and Braves only have 2 at the Marlins. By my count that puts the Braves at 161 games. Am I missing something?
Sucks  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:08 pm : link
This is how Braves are built...for the longball..

Mets offense needs to get it done.

Hope they pull this one out tonight...if not tomorrow is pretty critical. Would prefer not going into Sunday with a must win situation
RE: Looking at the schedule after this series  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15839451 KDavies said:
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Mets have 3 against the Nationals, and Braves only have 2 at the Marlins. By my count that puts the Braves at 161 games. Am I missing something?


Yes you're missing that they have 3 vs Marlins
Braves have three vs MiA  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:09 pm : link
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday
deGrom's line through 6 innings:  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 9:10 pm : link
86 P (58 S)
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR

3.08 ERA

Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.
RE: Looking at the schedule after this series  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15839451 KDavies said:
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Mets have 3 against the Nationals, and Braves only have 2 at the Marlins. By my count that puts the Braves at 161 games. Am I missing something?


No. They have three at the Marlins. Alcantara is pitching on the last day of the season too.
RE: deGrom's line through 6 innings:  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:12 pm : link
In comment 15839458 Optimus-NY said:
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86 P (58 S)
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR

3.08 ERA

Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.


I think he has one more. At least to start the inning
RE: RE: deGrom's line through 6 innings:  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15839460 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15839458 Optimus-NY said:


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86 P (58 S)
3 R (3 ER)
5 H
0 BB
11 K
3 HR

3.08 ERA

Does he come out for the 7th? I'm guessing he's done, but if he isn't he almost is.



I think he has one more. At least to start the inning


Issue is they want him ready for the last game of the season if necessary
these idiots  
KDubbs : 9/30/2022 9:16 pm : link
will never beat the braves. Same old story. players and coaches all change and the outcomes always stay the same
RE: these idiots  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15839463 KDubbs said:
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will never beat the braves. Same old story. players and coaches all change and the outcomes always stay the same


It’s amazing how much trouble they’ve had in ATL. Both stadiums.

Focus On tomorrow, get a win and take the pressure off
Jake out  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:20 pm : link
This game is done. Focus on tomorrow
megill sucks  
spike : 9/30/2022 9:22 pm : link
keep him at home
white flag is out by Buck  
spike : 9/30/2022 9:22 pm : link
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TDA with a double  
speedywheels : 9/30/2022 9:22 pm : link
Of course
The moment was too big for this team tonight  
MetsAreBack : 9/30/2022 9:24 pm : link
Better show up tomorrow. Fried didn’t even have his A game.

This offense has stunk for two months. Absurd
When can we take the kid gloves off deGrom  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:24 pm : link
This is a huge game, our bullpen sucks, deGrom needed to go another inning. Even an off deGrom is still better than this bullpen

RE: RE: Looking at the schedule after this series  
KDavies : 9/30/2022 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15839459 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 15839451 KDavies said:


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Mets have 3 against the Nationals, and Braves only have 2 at the Marlins. By my count that puts the Braves at 161 games. Am I missing something?



No. They have three at the Marlins. Alcantara is pitching on the last day of the season too.


Should have looked at another site. The one I looked at had 2 games. Weird
megill  
spike : 9/30/2022 9:30 pm : link
is throwing batting practice.
So they don't get a relief pitcher like Iglesias  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:31 pm : link
At the deadline because they're going to try to change Megill into a reliever, which he's never done ever

Sandy dumbass can't leave this team soon enough. He's been with the Mets for a decade and can't ever build a bullpen
Oy Vey  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 9:31 pm : link
they better try Megill as a starter next season  
spike : 9/30/2022 9:35 pm : link
starting in Syracuse
it's bizarre that they've had such an amazing season and yet  
Eric on Li : 9/30/2022 9:36 pm : link
the weaknesses we all knew about ahead of the season have pretty much never been solved all year.

weak bottom of the order
thin bp

by no means is the season over because of 1 game but it is a near 2 month trend of the offense not doing what got them to where they are now. they are not working pitchers into high pitch counts. they are not making life difficult.

unless a switch somehow flips on the lineup to not just rely on individual power outbursts from alonso/lindor (and the occasional canha/escobar) it's hard to see this team hitting enough.

where did the team that worked every at bat go?
Come back and get the W tomorrow  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:37 pm : link
No big deal yet

Jake looked a lot better except a few mistakes that excellent hitters made him pay for. That'd the main positive to take from this game
RE: it's bizarre that they've had such an amazing season and yet  
moze1021 : 9/30/2022 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15839483 Eric on Li said:
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the weaknesses we all knew about ahead of the season have pretty much never been solved all year.

weak bottom of the order
thin bp

by no means is the season over because of 1 game but it is a near 2 month trend of the offense not doing what got them to where they are now. they are not working pitchers into high pitch counts. they are not making life difficult.

unless a switch somehow flips on the lineup to not just rely on individual power outbursts from alonso/lindor (and the occasional canha/escobar) it's hard to see this team hitting enough.

where did the team that worked every at bat go?


Marte being missing is huge.

But maybe they all get going at the right time??
So far it's been a total no show  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:39 pm : link
With five outs left
RE: Come back and get the W tomorrow  
Eric on Li : 9/30/2022 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15839484 moze1021 said:
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No big deal yet

Jake looked a lot better except a few mistakes that excellent hitters made him pay for. That'd the main positive to take from this game


JDG was fine. The issue continues to be the offense not doing what they did for the first 4 months.

Fried was on 71 pitches in 5ip.
2 days ago Luzardo went through 6 in 95 pitches.
3 days ago Lopez went through 6 in 91.

they just aren't working pitchers the way they were through early August. in fact most of the runs they've scored lately have been from the long ball which is the opposite of the rallies they had earlier in the year where they were stringing together hits (esp 2 out hits).
Bravo Nido!  
Optimus-NY : 9/30/2022 9:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: it's bizarre that they've had such an amazing season and yet  
Eric on Li : 9/30/2022 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15839486 moze1021 said:
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Marte being missing is huge.

But maybe they all get going at the right time??


I hope so. I don't think it's explainable with Marte. Canha and McNeil are both really good top of the order hitters. It's obviously 1 less good hitter but this was a negative trend dating back before he got hit.

if you think about it in the month or two pre-trade deadline they were scuffling offensively, then the first couple weeks post-deadline it looked like they fixed everything, but then the league i guess adjusted to vogey and ruf because those 2 went over a cliff and the offense has been mostly stagnant since.

all year when the DH's hit they win, when they don't they struggle. amazing that what should be such a simple position to solve has been such a problem.
deGrom was not fine giving up three runs in six innings  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:52 pm : link
When you are looking for over 40 million per year, you need to do better than that in the biggest game of the season

It'll be the same with Max tomorrow if he gives up three runs in six innings. You make this kind of money to be better than a 4.5 ERA in the biggest game of the year
And which team looked ready to play tonight  
Snablats : 9/30/2022 9:57 pm : link
In the biggest game of the season, the team with playoff experience or the team without it?

Three outs left to change that
Yes, as amazing as deGrom has been, this game was a letdown  
CooperDash : 9/30/2022 10:00 pm : link
for him. The other guy pitched better, plain and simple. If you want to opt out and get the big bucks, then you need to show up when the season is on the line.
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