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NFT: Mets at Braves Game 2 (of the Season) - Mad Max edition

spike : 10/1/2022 3:56 pm
Just about the must win game of the season - Gm 2. LGM!!

CF Nimmo
1b Alonso
SS Lindor
2B McNeil
3B Escobar
DH Vogelbach
LF Canha
RF Naquin
C Nido

P Max Scherzer


The Mets offense misses Marte in the worst way, as there is a huge dropoff from Marte to Naquin.



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The opposing lineup  
spike : 10/1/2022 3:58 pm : link
Acuna
Swanson
Harris II
Riley
Olson
DArnaud
Ozuna
Rosario
Arcia

RHP Kyle Wright

Steve Gelbs Twitter comment  
Ira : 10/1/2022 4:01 pm : link
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Max Scherzer was built for night’s like tonight. This is why he was brought here.

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We really just need to win one of these next two games to hold the  
ZGiants98 : 10/1/2022 4:07 pm : link
tie breaker. If we don't, the Braves deserve the division.
RE: We really just need to win one of these next two games to hold the  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 4:12 pm : link
In comment 15839922 ZGiants98 said:
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tie breaker. If we don't, the Braves deserve the division.


Bingo
The veteran bats have to step up tonight  
spike : 10/1/2022 4:12 pm : link
no more depending on rookies.
RE: The veteran bats have to step up tonight  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15839927 spike said:
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no more depending on rookies.


How bout no more depending on 1 big swing... Need to get back to putting the ball in play and working counts! Just like Eric was saying last night
Anyone else prefer Alonso  
Dr. D : 10/1/2022 4:44 pm : link
in cleanup spot vs 2nd?
RE: We really just need to win one of these next two games to hold the  
Optimus-NY : 10/1/2022 4:46 pm : link
In comment 15839922 ZGiants98 said:
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tie breaker. If we don't, the Braves deserve the division.


+1
RE: Anyone else prefer Alonso  
spike : 10/1/2022 4:47 pm : link
In comment 15839955 Dr. D said:
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in cleanup spot vs 2nd?


Swap Mcneil with Lindor and Alonso back to cleanup
RE: Anyone else prefer Alonso  
Drewcon40 : 10/1/2022 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15839955 Dr. D said:
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in cleanup spot vs 2nd?


Agree Dr D. McNeil at 2?
Please  
Spider43 : 10/1/2022 4:50 pm : link
Just don't lay an egg tonight.
Both starting lineups and pitchers for today:  
Optimus-NY : 10/1/2022 4:50 pm : link
Nido is catching again today (tells you what they think about McCann). Naquin is in RF---wish we had Marte. He would have made a BIG difference. Escobar is hitting 5th tonight with Vogey batting 6th as the DH. Marcel DWI Ozuna is batting 7th for the Barfs. THAT mofo should be suspended.

Starting Lineups and Pitchers for 10/1/22 - Mets @ Braves
RE: RE: Anyone else prefer Alonso  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15839959 spike said:
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In comment 15839955 Dr. D said:


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in cleanup spot vs 2nd?



Swap Mcneil with Lindor and Alonso back to cleanup


agreed. don't mind splitting up the lefties with lindor 2 and mcneil 3 but alonso should be cleanup followed by whatever combo of vogey/escobar/canha they like.
I'm no statistician but  
Dr. D : 10/1/2022 5:14 pm : link
it just seems like it's limiting the potential base runners for our best RBI guy to drive in. It's not rocket science. For Alonso's first AB, there's only a 36% chance (Nimmo's OBP) that one runner and only one runner is on. 0% of 2 or more on base. Then subsequent ABs, the bottom of the order is right in front of Nimmo. Again, lower odds of guys on base.

Seems like over thinking.
RE: I'm no statistician but  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15839982 Dr. D said:
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it just seems like it's limiting the potential base runners for our best RBI guy to drive in. It's not rocket science. For Alonso's first AB, there's only a 36% chance (Nimmo's OBP) that one runner and only one runner is on. 0% of 2 or more on base. Then subsequent ABs, the bottom of the order is right in front of Nimmo. Again, lower odds of guys on base.

Seems like over thinking.


it's balancing that vs. getting alonso potentially 1 more at bat per night. last night for example i think he was in the hole when the game ended. and he had been crazy hot the last couple weeks. he's cooled off the last couple games though so i think it's close to time to try something else.
Why did they move Alonso up in the lineup anyway?  
CooperDash : 10/1/2022 5:50 pm : link
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Alonso should be 4  
larryflower37 : 10/1/2022 6:11 pm : link
Nimmo
Lindor
McNeil
Alonso
Escobar
I hate the new lineup it seems like he is hitting with no one on more often than not
RE: Why did they move Alonso up in the lineup anyway?  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15840020 CooperDash said:
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Because sometimes buck thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room?

🤷🏻‍♂️
Buck is trying to get Alonso pitches to hit  
Vanzetti : 10/1/2022 7:15 pm : link
by having Lindor and McNeil behind him.

Unfortunately, Lindor is way less of a hitter than Alonso and McNeil doesn't have power, so it has not worked as he had hoped.

But the idea is not bad. Also, the bottom of the order has been productive so its nice having Pete and his 40HRs batting 2nd.

I think Buck realized he made a mistake by just substituting Canha for Marte. Very different hitters and Canha is at his best in the bottom part of the order.

Also lineup was stagnating the way it was  
Vanzetti : 10/1/2022 7:20 pm : link
So probably Buck just trying to mix it up, more than anything else.

this inning is more like it - 21 pitches already, bases loaded 1 out  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 7:32 pm : link
have to cash in here but this is the first vintage 2022 mets first inning in a while at a time they badly needed it.
That's a good start  
larryflower37 : 10/1/2022 7:37 pm : link
They need to stay patience and drive up the pitch count
30 pitches and 1 run with only 2 singles  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 7:39 pm : link
great start. need max to give them a few shutout innings so they can hopefully expand that lead and let him pitch aggressively.

canha in the 'leadoff' spot next inning to hopefully keep wright uncomfortable.
Anyone have a link to watch the game  
Ira : 10/1/2022 7:51 pm : link
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101mph, 395 feet, .630 xba for that nimmo deep fly to wall  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:07 pm : link
presumably would have been a homer in about 50% of stadiums.
RE: Anyone have a link to watch the game  
PakistanPete : 10/1/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15840131 Ira said:
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Did you check mlbshow.com?
Thanks. I'll try it  
Ira : 10/1/2022 8:10 pm : link
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interesting comments from buck re alvarez catching  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:11 pm : link
they had him working with sherlock before the game tonight and said he's open to him catching at some point if things go a certain way.

if they can get through this series with 1 win (or even better 2) they should let both vientos and alvarez play pretty much every day vs. the nats and hope 1 of them can show some kind of spark.
big time catch by nimmo there - 106mph and .550 xba  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:23 pm : link
pretty sure the only batted ball with a better chance of being a hit but was an out was ironically nimmo's flyball to michael harris in center. so now they are even.
I know there isn't really such a thing  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:27 pm : link
But my dad would always talk about guys being due for a hit

I feel like Canha is due
Or not  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:28 pm : link
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i thought that naquin ball was gone  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:32 pm : link
turns out only hit it 88 mph and an easy out anywhere.
Calling home runs is a dad thing  
Atari2600 : 10/1/2022 8:33 pm : link
As well.
RE: i thought that naquin ball was gone  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15840166 Eric on Li said:
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turns out only hit it 88 mph and an easy out anywhere.


He was jammed pretty good and just muscles it out there...fox guy just sucks and hyped it up
RE: Calling home runs is a dad thing  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:35 pm : link
In comment 15840167 Atari2600 said:
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As well.


Haha yes...my dad called many a HR

Last one I remember was a Wright HR.

Wish he was around to watch this team, he'd have loved them
And there it is, not scoring more than one run in the first  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 8:39 pm : link
Is going to cost us this game
scherzer giving up a lot of loud contact  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:43 pm : link
gotta get out of this inning here and hope he's got 1 more run through the order.

offense needs to answer this inning.
Need more than 1 run to win  
spike : 10/1/2022 8:45 pm : link
Hopefully 3 or more.
Well  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:46 pm : link
Bats got some work to do.

I was really hoping for a laugher tonight..

Whether it happens tonight or tomorrow or once playoffs start, it has to happen or it's going to be a short postseason

I was hoping max could go 8  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 8:48 pm : link
He might not go 7.

Offense needs to wake up
Scherzer is already up to 70 pitches  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 8:48 pm : link
So I doubt he pitches the 7th
Max will go 6  
Optimus-NY : 10/1/2022 8:50 pm : link
That's all. Gonna need Ottavino and or Lugo.
Mets' bats need to wake up  
Optimus-NY : 10/1/2022 8:51 pm : link
Wish Marte was here.
RE: Max will go 6  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15840179 Optimus-NY said:
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That's all. Gonna need Ottavino and or Lugo.


the bigger issue is that wright probably will too somehow even after a 30 pitch first inning. the lineup is still giving away too many easy outs.
man i love jeff mcneil  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:55 pm : link
textbook hitting right there.
anyone remember the last met 2 out rally like that?  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:56 pm : link
more than a month ago?
This line up is so much stronger and longer  
spike : 10/1/2022 8:57 pm : link
with Marte up top
RE: anyone remember the last met 2 out rally like that?  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15840183 Eric on Li said:
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more than a month ago?


Feels like it's been a while!
Good to have the lead back but damn  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 8:59 pm : link
would have been nice to have a two-run lead for once

Got to think Diaz is going 2 innings tonight
pretty crazy stat  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 8:59 pm : link
Evan Roberts @EvanRobertsWFAN
Mets have 15 hits in this series… 14 singles. The Braves have 13 hits in this series… 6 singles and 7 extra base hits.
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